Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[Thatchinho]

IMHO the crashed lobster isn't a ship. It's the weapon (projectile/drone) the actual mothership launched at the Annies and T9. The crime scene shows the victims and the crime weapon/projectile/drone.
Not the assaulter. That's why no cockpit. That's why they crashed all together on the same small area. One single shot and... OMG !

Let me just put these points forward for your consideration...

• There's a lot of evidence to indicate that what's at the crashes and what's in the encounters are the same type of ship
• The area where the cockpit would be is underground at the crashes so it is not possible to say there is no cockpit
• At the original crash site there's are no crashed Annies, no crashed T9s and in fact no debris of any kind that does not exactly match the ship from the encounters

 

[mrPaperRoman]

Based on what we are presuming Pauls are interdicting us? Maybe over thinking, but what if our FSD jump somehow interfere with their jump tech and both Paul and human got pulled out from witchspace as a result of collision? Then Paul turns off our ship in self-defense (same as UP after honk), quickly scans and flees.

If this kind of idea was presented before, Im deeply sorry for missing that.

 

[Jmanis]

We never solved the question of "why Merope 5C"?

Or for the UAs (and even more generally), "Why Merope?"

Something else I didn't notice before tho.. during the encounter a continues signal ping beings to occur,
it's regular and does alter slightly from time to time.

It's starts at 0:39
what is that? perhaps it's nothing, maybe just a proximity warning... tho it seems a little strange, all our systems are down.

That's part of the background music during the encounter. (my understanding from other posts is that there's a unique BGM that plays when hyperdicted. I play with music off and it didn't play, and there's a bunch of other videos without music where it doesn't happen either)

 

[Hartwolf]

Or for the UAs (and even more generally), "Why Merope?"

I am new to the whole research, so I apologize if this was already checked out, but has anyone looked for a potential clue in the Merope of mythology?

 

[Jmanis]

I am new to the whole research, so I apologize if this was already checked out, but has anyone looked for a potential clue in the Merope of mythology?

Yes. Nothing significant found.

 

[TiberiuS]

Ok, lol.
Yes, agree that was an over thinking moment.
sometimes my brain has a tendency to do that.

Something else I didn't notice before tho.. during the encounter a continues signal ping beings to occur,
it's regular and does alter slightly from time to time.

It's starts at 0:39
what is that? perhaps it's nothing, maybe just a proximity warning... tho it seems a little strange, all our systems are down.

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDpWnqJcfnA

Definitely comes from the alien ship. With surround sound you can clearly hear that.

Either it's sensors... like a sonar kind of thing, or it's a heartbeat of the ship, as it's partly organic.

Also the first sound the ship makes much sounds like our discovery scanner with more growling. Then the ship deploys hardpoints and scans us with another type of scanner (that also has a visible effect it seems). Then it makes a flyby and projects a portal, through which it escapes.

I'm still a bit stunned by the effects.

 

[Makaan]

Based on what we are presuming Pauls are interdicting us? Maybe over thinking, but what if our FSD jump somehow interfere with their jump tech and both Paul and human got pulled out from witchspace as a result of collision? Then Paul turns off our ship in self-defense (same as UP after honk), quickly scans and flees.

If this kind of idea was presented before, Im deeply sorry for missing that.

They come from behind us in hyperspace, you can see a green glow behind your ship when looking to the side etc.

These dudes are pulling us out for some reason.

 

[TiberiuS]

They come from behind us in hyperspace, you can see a green glow behind your ship when looking to the side etc.

These dudes are pulling us out for some reason.

What would you do if others would constantly race through your front lawn?

The aliens are clearly looking for something in the ships. But what?

Also what happened to Jaques station and the other lore ships was different somehow. Most of them crashed...

 

[Moncada]

Another question...why would they pull us out of hyperspace into normal space? If hyperspace is their natural habitat, why not keep us there and scan us?

Perhaps they do wish to deal with us on our terms? Or perhaps some of the technology they are using in the encounter is either less effective, or ineffective, for some reason in hyperspace...


Earlier I had a thought that their ships may deteriorate outside of witchspace if the technology is similar to the UAs. And this may be why they are farming meta alloys in resource rich zones - it could allow them to sustain themselves here for long enough to achieve something, such as finding something they are looking for, or to establish a foothold for colonisation.

Either way, something is prompting them to come out of witchspace and interact with us, possibly at risk to themselves. Our increased use of FSD drives would only partly explain it, because as the latest Galnet article states, this technology in its various evolutions is not new in the Elite universe.

Its simple. Would you try to communicate by using the same method as you did to kill people during a war?
It would probably stop any forms of communication for the forseeable future if you did that.

 

[Thatchinho]

Distortion of the light (stars) around the "thing" immediately after the scan as it moves away?

Ah, yes, I see what you mean, but equally there seems to be a cloud of gas that the ship then moves through which could also potentially account for the distortion.

Having watched it all again closely, there's distortion behind the thrusters too, but there's also what for want of a better word look like vapour trails, so that distortion could also potentially be accounted for by gas/plasma.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there definitely isn't gravity manipulation going on, I'm just saying that I don't think there's enough things without other plausible explanations to say there definitely is gravitic manipulation.

 

[Moncada]

What if they are not looking for something but for someone?
Any famous characters that the aliens would like to aquire?
Has any characters vanished in less than clear circumstances lately?
Or have there been a string of disappearanches that are given signifigence in the lore?
We cant really presume that they havent popped by for a visit before this

 

[CMDR RaoulDuke]

I have noticed the colours change in hyperspace when being hyperdicted. The light brown/dirty orange colour is a lot more orange when someone gets pulled out. Possibly already been spotted

 

[Owsla]

Or for the UAs (and even more generally), "Why Merope?"



That's part of the background music during the encounter. (my understanding from other posts is that there's a unique BGM that plays when hyperdicted. I play with music off and it didn't play, and there's a bunch of other videos without music where it doesn't happen either)

I think that's a safe bet to rule it out as anything particularly significant,
At first I thought it was coming from the Alien Craft also, tho' after listening again I'd say the sound is centered on our cockpit,
Yes, just a BGM effect during the encounter.

So far I'd say the most likely evidence of a signal or message during the encounter is the lens flair like barcode.
I feel actually there's a high probability that it is something.

 

[CMDR RaoulDuke]

What if they are not looking for something but for someone?
Any famous characters that the aliens would like to aquire?
Has any characters vanished in less than clear circumstances lately?
Or have there been a string of disappearanches that are given signifigence in the lore?
We cant really presume that they havent popped by for a visit before this

Cmdr Salome???

Or they are returning Bill Hicks

 

[Moncada]

Cmdr Salome???

Or they are returning Bill Hicks

BIIIIIIIIIILL!

 

[The_Sprite]

Cmdr Salome???

Or they are returning Bill Hicks

Or that Ram Tah fella. He was quick to jump on the Ruins. Why not This Encounter?...

 

[Moncada]

Or someone that has dissappeared has told them something and they are looking for someone now and are in a hurry?
If they can abduct people cleanly what they are doing now is just sloppy

That might also hint to why they have appeared out in the open now

 

[Makaan]

What would yo do if others would constantly race through your front lawn?

The aliens are clearly looking for something in the ships. But what?

Also what happened to Jaques station and the other lore ships was different somehow. Most of them crashed...

Either they're looking for something or are trying to make a statement.

-Pull us out of hyperspace

-Disables our ship

-Ominously approaches us from behind (not being able to see whats coming behind you and having no control is very intimidating).

-Growls at us (or whatever you want to call it aha)

-It deploys hardpoints and is possibly scanning us (or trying to sh*t us up...)

-Makes more noise and swats us aside as it flies past

While the encounter wasn't violent. It certainly wasn't friendly either.

Why aren't we being attacked though? When we know others more than likely have (not players...yet), look at some of the crash sites, logs we've found (the one where the guy was pulled from hyperspace and they came for him, flash of green and all that), plus the last video from gamescom....

Lots of clues but we can't work it out and many of us are coming up with some pretty ludicrous theories (I don't mean to offend cus I've come up with some crazy ones myself haha).

We have to think logically here and take a step back and have another hard look at all the clues, along with all canon information on the Thargoids.

That's what I'm planning on doing after work anyway aha.

 

[Alex Brentnall]

Nevermind it's covered in the op in a single line I missed Wayyyy too late to this party...

Spoiler

Data Request:

Just done the encounter in VR, still sweating. I've had an idea and I think it's valid so I'll run you through the theory I have and hopefully some joint pooling of data will help. I haven't seen this thought anywhere before but I may be wrong.

The ships we encounter seem to very specifically get to a distance from us then turn and wake out. My theory is just as the artefacts turned to Merope that these ships phase out to a location. I know right, could well be the case.
I didn't get this theory until after the ship left and I was sat scratching my head as to what we could take from it so I had to guess mine from the wake I'd already flown around a few times. Either mine was headed just under the Coalsack Nebula towards the Chameleon Nebula or it was headed the opposite way large degree of error as I kinda eyeballed it from the wake signal (i'd guess at +/- 15deg in all directions which is a ridiculous error really considering the scope of space that puts potential jump location to).

I have a hunch it may be pointed towards the alien ruin we found but that's just a hunch based on general suspected direction.

So, come on scientists, I have a hypothesis, let the experiments begin. I could be entirely wrong but its worth trying I think.

Also my biscuit of choice is the Jaffa Cake just for being delightfully paradoxical. <- I was told before arriving that not talking about biscuits got you labelled a mad old doffer with crackpot theories

 

[ShadowWolf Kell]

Yes. Nothing significant found.

The fact that these hyperdictions are roughly within the shell radius means there's still something there to be found, that's been blissfully ignored.

It's a pretty not so subtle way of FDev saying, "Hey... it's over HERE!" Unfortunately, folks don't seem inclined to actually search the area. The same happened with the Rift's beacon (which was roughly the same area but sparser.) People focused on the CTD planet issue and that was it. Meanwhile Raxxla is still in the Rift and has been since launch.


With all the beacons, crash sights and barnacles, they've even given clues as to which class systems to look in, and which to ignore. I can just imagine Michael Brookes laughing maniacally. He's been playing Populous, but with Elite ships, trying to get his peons to move in the right direction mostly unsuccessfully. Every now and then he has to start an earthquake or volcanic eruption to get people to focus again.