So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

[Jaiotu]

Hi Rifters,

I went and scanned all the EAFOTS RN-S systems but I couldn't find anything. However I only scanned the bodies and didn't looked for surface structures or other hard to spot things so there might still be something hidden there.
The reason I did this, is that if you apply the code .,.. ......,. …, which is confirmed to stand for 1,26,13, to the massage of the old ship (OTSEAFOTSEAF) you get PUT EAFOTS RNS. I was surprised that none of the systems where claimed, so no one seems to have come to this conclusion before.
Of course, I might be wrong here or whatever was to be found is already remove or hidden behind a bug .

RNS might also mean something different but I am not so familiar with the lore and for me the obvious was to put it into the map-search.

I'm not following you. If you apply ROT13 on OTSEAFOTSEAF you get BGFRNSBGFRNS, not PUTEAFOTSRNS.

 

[eadghe]

I'm not following you. If you apply ROT13 on OTSEAFOTSEAF you get BGFRNSBGFRNS, not PUTEAFOTSRNS.

ROT13 just means rotation of 13, but there are also ROT1 to ROT26 for the English alphabet. So 1,26,13 is ROT1, ROT26 (no change at all) and ROT13. Since EAFOTS is a known term, you can use it to split the message into OTS, EAFOTS, EAF and then apply ROT1 on OTS and ROT13 on EAF (as well as ROT26 on EAFOTS but this doesn't change anything).

 

[Jaiotu]

ROT13 just means rotation of 13, but there are also ROT1 to ROT26 for the English alphabet. So 1,26,13 is ROT1, ROT26 (no change at all) and ROT13. Since EAFOTS is a known term, you can use it to split the message into OTS, EAFOTS, EAF and then apply ROT1 on OTS and ROT13 on EAF (as well as ROT26 on EAFOTS but this doesn't change anything).

o7

I don't follow the logic and, if memory serves, Drew all but confirmed the ROT13 was for untangling the "complex cobweb" to find the hidden "Right on, Commander" and nothing more.

Still... we've followed even more tenuous theories in the past so I can only wish you well perusing your own.

Good luck!

 

[eadghe]

OK again, we have 1, 26, 13. OTSEAFOTSEAF -> OTS, EAFOTS, EAF -> OTS + ROT1 = PUT, EAFOTS + ROT26 = EAFOTS, EAF + ROT13 = RNS. The reason Ive spitted the string this way is that the EAFOTS part is a known word and goes along with the ROT26.

 

[Jaiotu]

OK again, we have 1, 26, 13. OTSEAFOTSEAF -> OTS, EAFOTS, EAF -> OTS + ROT1 = PUT, EAFOTS + ROT26 = EAFOTS, EAF + ROT13 = RNS. The reason Ive spitted the string this way is that the EAFOTS part is a known word and goes along with the ROT26.

Yes but the original Galnet article says that the sequence is repeating. It isn't just "OTSEAFOTSEAF" by itself. It has no beginning or ending. The actual signal looks more like "EAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTS" continuing and repeating over and over.

If start with the principle that the only part that you don't apply the rotation to is the part that reads "EAFOTS" then that is the entire message. The signal is simply "EAFOTS" repeated over and over again.

 

[eadghe]

Yes but the original Galnet article says that the sequence is repeating. It isn't just "OTSEAFOTSEAF" by itself. It has no beginning or ending. The actual signal looks more like "EAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTSEAFOTS" continuing and repeating over and over.

If start with the principle that the only part that you don't apply the rotation to is the part that reads "EAFOTS" then that is the entire message. The signal is simply "EAFOTS" repeated over and over again.

I refer to this (https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/57a462879657ba967bd8f578) entry where it only says OTSEAFOTSEAF. But you are right, if this is repeated you get the word EAFOTS over and over again. Do we know the beginning of the message, i.e. if it started with EAF or OTS?

Edit: OTSEAFOTSEAF is also repeated over and over again, so this could be the real message.

 

[Jaiotu]

I refer to this (https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/57a462879657ba967bd8f578) entry where it only says OTSEAFOTSEAF. But you are right, if this is repeated you get the word EAFOTS over and over again. Do we know the beginning of the message, i.e. if it started with EAF or OTS?

Edit: OTSEAFOTSEAF is also repeated over and over again, so this could be the real message.

It says the message was repeated:

an onboard beacon briefly activated, transmitting a repeating sequence of curious characters. This continued for a few minutes until a power failure silenced it. The message read "OTSEAFOTSEAF".

 

[eadghe]

So the message could be "OTSEAFOTSEAF" repeated for a few minutes and the fact that the end + the beginning forms EAFOTS again cold just be a way to lead people to the wrong conclusion.
I might be wrong and there is nothing to it but there are only 26 or so EAFOTS RN-S systems so it much easier to search then the whole EAFOTS sector. I also sold the exploration data of those systems, so people could just buy them and have a look at the data, maybe there is something there.

 

[Jaiotu]

So the message could be "OTSEAFOTSEAF" repeated for a few minutes and the fact that the end + the beginning forms EAFOTS again cold just be a way to lead people to the wrong conclusion.
I might be wrong and there is nothing to it but there are only 26 or so EAFOTS RN-S systems so it much easier to search then the whole EAFOTS sector. I also sold the exploration data of those systems, so people could just buy them and have a look at the data, maybe there is something there.

The fact that you completed a survey of every EAFOTS RN-S system is admirable and helps narrow down the list of remaining systems still to be catalogued. Bravo! There is a CoR thread somewhere around here dedicated to that kind of thorough, brute force, search of EAFOTS. I hope someone can link to here for you and you can add the results of your own personal quest. My quest was the search for Cassiopeia A ... a quest that ended in still more disappointment. A disappointed tempered by the knowledge that it is a search nobody else need ever conduct again. Every contribution to narrowing down the search, either by confirming a theory or by ruling it out, is worth the time.

 

[lorrad]

I think you know this lorrad but just in case (and for anyone who doesn't know) this is a reference to a notorious bug in the game Frontier: Elite II. From the Wikipedia entry on the game:

"The game featured a famous "wormhole" bug: Normally a ship’s hyperdrive has a range of about 15 light years at most, so planetary systems dozens of light years away are too far to reach in one hyperspace jump. However, if the player happened to find a system 655.36 to 670.36 light years away, it would be counted by the game as within the "15 light year" range. This would also happen for systems slightly beyond 1310.72 light years, 1966.08 light years, and other multiples of 655.36. With a bit of careful triangulation it was usually possible to get near or directly to a destination system any distance away by means of just two such "wormhole" jumps."

Had totally forgotten about that and was conflating 2b and 3b drives out of fascination for there possibly being a few wormholes in this galaxy. I have a very vague recollection of Brooks saying there are not.

Octavia really is a blonde btw.

"Blonde hair streamed backwards from a face that would have been beautiful,,," Later there's a scene where she's getting ready in her quarters and something about greying in her naturally blonde hair. I really think she's really dead as she was on the bridge and pressed the button that blew up her own ship.

Among the many other things I get totally wrong, was Kahina's meeting TOW after being rescued by Luko to make it a setup to match with the CoR story and the knowing winks and nods with TOW2, but she went there with Hassan after he revived her which leaves little room for that idea. How about a number of TOW clones escaped from Teorge all in cahoots with each other. People think they're dealing with the same TOW but they aren't?

Core of the problem,,, the problem for the Core worlds is the collapse of Galcop and their loss of wealth power and influence.

I dunno I'm currently wasting my time trying to get hyperdicted and chasing the space jelly while trying to match its rotation to follow it out. Also has counter rotation. Don't think anyones mentioned matching its rotation. Hard bit probably can't do, get infront fly backwards and match rotations. I give it 0.0001 % chance of being worthwhile.

 

[MAUXUS]

rifty [uhh]

 

[frostypaw]

rifty [uhh]

http://i.imgur.com/t1CpvIV.jpg

Two systems showing? HAH luxury.

I found the sensation of claustrophobia in so much space very deeply unnerving.

 

[MAUXUS]

Two systems showing? HAH luxury.

I found the sensation of claustrophobia in so much space very deeply unnerving.

Yeah and no aliens here to keep us company, ugh...

 

[MAUXUS]

I left the RR line when I couldn't continue in that direction anymore and made a right (opposite the H&S). I kept going until I found a band of M stars (below the plane) that allowed me to cross the rift with my 36LY Asp Explorer. Actually now I am not really sure whether I crossed it, or simply followed along its edges? Since the Formidine Bridge is further right, that makes me think that I crossed the rift? My track is the red line. Could a more experienced (than me) rifter confirm?

 

[Darth Ender]

Yeah and no aliens here to keep us company, ugh...

Rifting is about chatting on the forum because FD has stated they purposely halted the story and disabled the "clues" until the next patch can be released when the last update broke them.

No need for aliens that just do the same scripted behavior every time. Just angry thread after angry thread.

 

[frostypaw]

I left the RR line when I couldn't continue in that direction anymore and made a right (opposite the H&S). I kept going until I found a band of M stars (below the plane) that allowed me to cross the rift with my 36LY Asp Explorer. Actually now I am not really sure whether I crossed it, or simply followed along its edges? Since the Formidine Bridge is further right, that makes me think that I crossed the rift? My track is the red line. Could a more experienced (than me) rifter confirm?

http://i.imgur.com/ZSWNQig.jpg

Is that a screenshot from your copy of EDD? You're using an incredibly old version of the rift map.... I'm pretty sure I remember at least one version was a bit skewiff so I couldn't make you many promises. It does look like you've skirted around the edge of what is considered the deepest part of the rift rather than through it but the line you were following beforehand might be right if that version is the wonky map and there is still a lot of debate about where exactly counts as the rift as the very sparse area is not that close to where the Formidine Rift beacons were placed

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

Rifting is about chatting on the forum because FD has stated they purposely halted the story and disabled the "clues" until the next patch can be released when the last update broke them.

No need for aliens that just do the same scripted behavior every time. Just angry thread after angry thread.

You should be grateful to them - solving the mystery is going to remove one of ED's most interesting things - where else am I going to find a justification for flying 10 kLYs using only K type stars?
Without the Rift, what I do would need to actually make sense!

 

[MAUXUS]

Is that a screenshot from your copy of EDD? You're using an incredibly old version of the rift map.... I'm pretty sure I remember at least one version was a bit skewiff so I couldn't make you many promises. It does look like you've skirted around the edge of what is considered the deepest part of the rift rather than through it but the line you were following beforehand might be right if that version is the wonky map and there is still a lot of debate about where exactly counts as the rift as the very sparse area is not that close to where the Formidine Rift beacons were placed

Yes, that's my copy of EDD. I am using EDD 5.2.6.0 and that's the 2D Map that came with it...do I need to update the map separately maybe? Originally I installed an earlier version of EDD and it notified me of an update (the 5.2.6.0) after running it for the first time. So I then updated EDD by installing the 5.2.6.0 over the older version.

Here is the same pic zoomed out...

 

[frostypaw]

Yes, that's my copy of EDD. I am using EDD 5.2.6.0 and that's the 2D Map that came with it...do I need to update the map separately maybe? Originally I installed an earlier version of EDD and it notified me of an update (the 5.2.6.0) after running it for the first time. So I then updated EDD by installing the 5.2.6.0 over the older version.

is there a different map for the 3d display i wonder?

 

[MAUXUS]

is there a different map for the 3d display i wonder?

There is. It kept crashing on me (3D Map) but now that I was able to launch it, I can see what you meant...wow! Are those dots only stars commanders visited? In another words if nobody jumped into a system, it won't be displayed here?