Patch Notes Update Elite Dangerous 2.2.03 - Update incoming.

omega9380 · Jan 10, 2017

Some nice fixes here, but I wish they would add the faction to the RedeemVoucher journal entry already.... [sulk]

Tarrakis · Jan 10, 2017

isokix said:
I think engineer commodities don't have to be carried around anymore, not sure if they are scrapped all together though.

Does anyone have a definitive answer on this ?

I'd like to get a definitive answer on this too.
I don't mind hunting for commodities, but they need some kind of storage capability...until then simply remove them from the blueprints as carrying them around in case I need them is a right PITA, especially if I want to use a pure combat build.

jgm · Jan 10, 2017

Apos said:
How would you know that when hull reinforcements are not visible in the subsystems?

Ah, fair enough, that explains why I didn't see them.

Hasmodai · Jan 10, 2017

So no love for Python nor Clipper. They should have received some of this hull and/or shield buff too. They only have been nerfed since the start.

Apos · Jan 10, 2017

jgm said:
Ah, fair enough, that explains why I didn't see them.

That's ok. And that's the problem. We need FD's word on this.

Goose4291 · Jan 10, 2017

So, merchant craft now have stronger hulls than multi-role ships.

I have to say, from a balance perspective I'm massively disappointed in this, particularly when the forum bangs the drum of 'immersion' very loudly.

fieval · Jan 10, 2017

So, did the SRV scanner get fixed or not??

Mephane · Jan 10, 2017

I hope that engineer commodity removal was just an oversight and is still in the patch... -_-

Tori Yamazaki · Jan 10, 2017

Hasmodai said:
So no love for Python nor Clipper. They should have received some of this hull and/or shield buff too. They only have been nerfed since the start.

Dang... I love my Clippers!

Kerrash · Jan 10, 2017

Goose4291 said:
So, merchant craft now have stronger hulls than multi-role ships.

I have to say, from a balance perspective I'm massively disappointed in this, particularly when the forum bangs the drum of 'immersion' very loudly...

Wouldn't 'multi-role' by definition imply that it can do a little of everything well, whereas specialisation would give it an advantage? :S

kofeyh · Jan 10, 2017

Mephane said:
I hope that engineer commodity removal was just an oversight and is still in the patch... -_-

They have replaced commodities with fish! It will be fine*.

Dietger · Jan 10, 2017

Thanks to Frontier and to all CMDRs who helped in Beta.

mistohise · Jan 10, 2017

Hasmodai said:
So no love for Python nor Clipper. They should have received some of this hull and/or shield buff too. They only have been nerfed since the start.

Yeah, a Python base shield buff would have been nice, seeing as how pretty much all the other ships have benefited in some way.

Apos · Jan 10, 2017

Repentant said:
Long range fighters, but not for military purposes.

That's fair enough, but I could argue that military usually designs something with the ability to downgrade instead of the other way around. Aka, having that slot and not using it when it needs the agility.

At least in the latest years where multifunctionality of equipment started being valued more.

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mistohise said:
Yeah, a Python base shield buff would have been nice, seeing as how pretty much all the other ships have benefited in some way.

Python's combat abilities have been left to rot over and over again.

If not for the 3 large hardpoints, it might as well have been renamed to a trading vessel.

kofeyh · Jan 10, 2017

Kerrash said:
Wouldn't 'multi-role' by definition imply that it can do a little of everything well, whereas specialisation would give it an advantage? :s

No, kerrash, of course we both know 'multi-role' is actually defined as "best at all roles"; this is in stark contrast with 'dedicated' which is "sucks the most at it's dedicated role".

Python and Clipper are fine; people are just greedy and want the kitchen-sink ship without any penalties. Which is funny, because that's pretty much Anaconda. But I digress..

CALKINCAKES · Jan 10, 2017

I didn't understand any of that. Is it all to do with horizons content?

Moonstruck Sebastian · Jan 10, 2017

Thanks fdev! Update looks great. Been looking forward to this one!

Repentant · Jan 10, 2017

Apos said:
That's fair enough, but I could argue that military usually designs something with the ability to downgrade instead of the other way around. Aka, having that slot and not using it when it needs the agility.

At least in the latest years where multifunctionality of equipment started being valued more.

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Python's combat abilities have been left to rot over and over again.

If not for the 3 large hardpoints, it might as well have been renamed to a trading vessel.

I guess you're right on that part but then.. elite's in 3303 so we wouldn't know. I'm just guessing it's most of the major faction and security force ships.

Olivka · Jan 10, 2017

Where boosters nerf? Where my diminishing?

Goose4291 · Jan 10, 2017

Kerrash said:
Wouldn't 'multi-role' by definition imply that it can do a little of everything well, whereas specialisation would give it an advantage? :S

Trading ships now have more 'survivability' than a multi-role ship. This means that ships which are designed to potentially (and do) go into combat zones have less hit points than a space white Ford Transit Van. It doesn't compute. At least not to me.