Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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So, do we have all of the ancient sites I wonder...

It would definitely seem not!. From the patch notes:

"- Fix data message IDs at all ancient sites for the associated mission so that the codex scans actually trigger an inbox message"

Hope this isn't a reference to the CTD sites in the Rift, Conflux and Gaps though. Latest from the Rift thread seems to be that there still isn't anything where the CTD locations were.
 
OK, just got a second (literally first scan I tried). Will dump some more pics, then that's me.

EDIT: Wait. This says 10/21 Historical Data.... I think the following:
1. There's more ruins sites.
2. (hopefully) there'll be clues to where others are in these items.

EDIT: OK, so it turns out the same combo gives different data at multiple obelisks. Wow. There's going to be a *lot* of combinations...

Took Casket + Urn to two of the obelisks in the top-left
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I so hate it... was gathering all the relics and put them to one place, just wanted to start scanning the obelisks with various combos of them -> Matchmaking disconnect.
 
Let's try to get all the combinations. So far I've found 1, 7/20, same message than Jmanis but different place and combination.

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Aliens? Why does every body keep saying it's aliens? :)

My money is on it not being aliens! It's well within range of even the none-FTL missing, none of the tech looks decidedly non-human (ok, it glows, but so does patches of the ground in the vicinity), and the only thing that at any point mentions 'alien' rather than 'ancient' is the description of the Ancient Totem which says "A statue depicting some kind of alien figure' - and that to me no more means that it's an alien site, than finding a totem of an eagle would mean that the people who lived at the site had feathers, a beak and could fly.

Anyway, time to get the crackpot theories in before the update comes out and all is revealed!:

  • It covers different time periods and possibly different owners/occupiers
  • The ground works originally formed a reservoir and a liquid processing/refinement facility (The evidence to suggest this is the profile of the walls, the blue liquid which has been reported seeping out of the ground in places, the way the liquid would move in the site due to the unusual movement of the moon.)
  • The end product was Quirium
  • Galactic hyperdrives were manufactured here
  • The symbolism of the main structure is to indicate an intergalactic jump (from our galaxy - main circular area) to another galaxy (small circular area which looks a bit like a bar galaxy)
  • The octagonal shape and smaller circular structure are just symbolic and don't represent a map to a specific destination
  • As the supply of the blue liquid dwindled the production slowed, and the operation was cut back before finally being abandoned.
  • Many years later the site was re-opened as a museum. Tours were available and you could see the site, learn what it had been for, how it worked, and what life had been like for the people who lived and worked there
  • With the eventual complete loss of Quirium based drives, travel to the site stopped being viable, and it was left and eventually completely forgotten
  • Over the years since, without any maintenance, time has taken it's toll and things have begun to break down. Some parts of the plant have exploded, destroying sections and damaging others, and the odd metoerite strike or two has caused further damage and knocked up dust which has settled over parts of the site, covering some of it in a thick layer and concealing the actual orginal structure

Or, kind of as above except:
  • An early generation ship had arrived at the system. To their despair, the system was barren. That's what they signed up for though, they knew the risks.
  • All the great effort and long journey appeared to be in vain but nevertheless they continued with their observation of the system, and noticing the unusual orbits of the second moon of the first planet and its own moon, out of curiosty they moved in for a closer observation.
  • To their suprise small areas of blue could be seen on the moon, it couldn't be water could it? Not at those temperatures?
  • No it wasn't water, but their spectographic analysis showed it was something even better - Liquid Oxygen.
  • The Liquid Oxygen would provide them with the air the needed to breathe, and combined with hydrogen would give them water. Their hydrogen fuel supplies would never be enough to make it across the light years to another system, but there would be enough to provide them with water for generations.
  • Landing their ship, they built a great reservoir to store the liquid oxygen, and then deconstructed their ship and rebuilt it into habitats and the facilities needed to process the liquid oxgen and give them their air and water.
  • They thrived for generations, but ultimately it was only a moon, and the supply of liquid oxygen could not last forever. They had always tried to conserve as much as they could but leaks, accidents and meteorite strikes always took their toll.
  • When the liquid oxygen began to run out they knew the inevitable would come. Knowing there was almost no hope, they built a new ship with stasis facilities, and deciding that their best hope for survival was humanity having spread further into space since they had left Earth, they set a course for Sol and set off into the long long night. They knew of course that they were almost certainly doomed and that if they died, all knowledge of them would be forgotten, so before leaving they built archives and data repositories and left them in the hope that one day they would be found and they might, even if only in the history books, in some small way, live on.

(I may have slipped over into writing a bit of a sci-fi short story in the end there rather than having a pure description of the site, but hey ho, I hope everyone enjoys the tale! :) )

Alien to us. I don't think people actually mean little green men or green insect creatures ;)
 
OK, just got a second (literally first scan I tried). Will dump some more pics, then that's me.

EDIT: Wait. This says 10/21 Historical Data.... I think the following:
1. There's more ruins sites.
2. (hopefully) there'll be clues to where others are in these items.

EDIT: OK, so it turns out the same combo gives different data at multiple obelisks. Wow. There's going to be a *lot* of combinations...


Guardians..... hm
 
OK, just got a second (literally first scan I tried). Will dump some more pics, then that's me.

EDIT: Wait. This says 10/21 Historical Data.... I think the following:
1. There's more ruins sites.
2. (hopefully) there'll be clues to where others are in these items.

EDIT: OK, so it turns out the same combo gives different data at multiple obelisks. Wow. There's going to be a *lot* of combinations...


You are racking them up here. Nice.

It's quite a quest getting all twenty though.

At least we know who the Guardians are/were now. :)
 
Darn it. And of course I must leave for work now so definitely don't have any time for the game.
Nice - repped! I tried to do this myself last night as I had a theory that maybe the flickering light, if slowed down sufficiently, might prove to be code (morse?) of some sort (i.e. not the barcode itself but the actually flickering on and off). I didn't post anything in the end because I came to the conclusion it was nothing.
This was my thinking, but, there are two things to remember to this: first, there are multiple lights (two?) Second, what if it's not just binary all on, all off? As I said before, my suspicion is that it seems to have too many actual brightness levels. It looks more like pulse code modulation or something else like that (presumably kept simple.)

Well, I can record in 1080 now. If I can ever get hyperdicted again I'll record it with no blurring and no bloom and see if it comes up any clearer. (I always keep those off, so I can tell you from my first experience that the lights do blend together a lot regardless, but maybe it will be somewhat clearer.)

Same goes for analyzing the lights on the edges btw. Don't just look for binary.

Since we like octal so much now, why not map the brightness to eight different levels and go from there?
 
OK, just got a second (literally first scan I tried). Will dump some more pics, then that's me.

EDIT: Wait. This says 10/21 Historical Data.... I think the following:
1. There's more ruins sites.
2. (hopefully) there'll be clues to where others are in these items.

EDIT: OK, so it turns out the same combo gives different data at multiple obelisks. Wow. There's going to be a *lot* of combinations...


Oh my good, it will be impossible for me to keep track of everyone of them and all the images... :(
Do not rely too much on fresh datas about these scans on the Front Page...

Hoping some brave CMDRs will help collecting all of them, me alone cannot for sure... :D
 
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Oh my good, it will be impossible for me to keep track of everyone of them and all the images... :(
Do not rely too much on fresh datas about these scans on the Front Page...

Hoping some brave CMDRs will help collecting all of them, me alone cannot for sure... :D

Give me two hours and you'll have a new automated database ;)
 
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Hey CMDRs o7,

I figure it would be a nice time for me to post part 2 of my ruins theory, before it becomes potentially obsolete.
At least this way if there is some relevance to the mission, parts can be retained and referred to. If it has to be re-thought that's no problem either.

Following on from my previous theory post : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...9-The-Canonn?p=4937502&viewfull=1#post4937502
Where I describe what each of the ancient objects in detail. We now move onto:

The ruins structures!


The triangular pillars:

The triangle pillars are made of 9 prisms. Should the pillar have a glowing prism, the green glowing prism is between 2 other prisms. The glowing prism is never on a corner of the pillar.
Does a standard pillar simply represent the number 9? Does the glowing version represent something different to non-glowing pillars?

In some cases 2 prisms are shipped off the pillar. Leaving 7 prisms intact. These chipped pillars are often sunken into the ground and don't stand upright.
Does a chipped pillar represent 7? Should it even be considered if it's damaged and not standing upright?

Not all chipped off prisms are on the floor. In some cases, there aren't enough fragments on the floor to account for the missing parts of the pillars. Theses fragments can be divided into short prism fragments and long prism fragments.
Does the length of the fragments matter? Does the presence of the fragments matter? Do fragments represent the number 1 or some fraction?


Arrays:

There are 4 kinds of arrays that triangular pillars are arranged into.
Each array is surrounded by a foundation like structure which I will refer to as a fence.
- Triangular Array
Standard large triangle made up of well spaced pillars. Within the array it's usually a corner pillar that glows green when approached.


- Rectangular Array
Usually glowing prisms are at one end of the array.

- Combined Triangle and Rectangle Array
Triangle array just behind rectangular array.

- Converging Array
2 lines of prisms converge to one point.

- HexStar Array
Recent new layout from patch.
 
OK, just got a second (literally first scan I tried). Will dump some more pics, then that's me.

EDIT: Wait. This says 10/21 Historical Data.... I think the following:
1. There's more ruins sites.
2. (hopefully) there'll be clues to where others are in these items.

EDIT: OK, so it turns out the same combo gives different data at multiple obelisks. Wow. There's going to be a *lot* of combinations...


Redder skins, well unknown probes are red and unknown artefacts are green. So perhaps we are dealing with a species that divided into two.

There choice of biological weaponry as a weapon of choice is disturbing.

I find this statement interesting, "I know conflict is common among many species in the galaxy" I thought humans didn't know of any other intelligent species in the galaxy, with the Thargoids little more than rumours an myth.

How many species does Frontier intend to introduce to the our little galaxy!

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There are hints that we could be dealing with a faction of the Thargoids,a very open society would happen in a species that has a hive mind and dominated by Queens.
 
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Is there any way to "reset" the obelisks to it's glowing state? Or once with failed with the combination we have to start over?
 
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