Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Funny part of that is that if those specific ruins are the final destination point of the guardians trip.

With that we could be able to communicate to the source point of their civilization that could be located on a very distant part of the galaxy.

I have in mind the permit locked region near beagle point.

Can someone check where it points to?

Maybe if we plot a straigh line from it we can have a hint.
 
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This kinda sounds suspiciously like a bug doesn't it? (introduced with the alien interdiction and/or 2.2.03).

Calling Michael Brookes! I appreciate you don't want to give too much away but could you post one knock to acknowledge you've read this, two if you'd rather not comment and three if it sounds like a bug to you.

Thanks! :)

This behaviour was not introduced in the latest patch. It was present prior to the appearance of the alien. I was testing this about a month ago and noted no spectrogram image appears when you do the following:

1. Drop UA
2. Use discovery scanner
3. Scoop up UA
4. Drop UP
 
Can someone check where it points to?

Maybe if we plot a straigh line from it we can have a hint.

I'm curious whether the current known site is from which the ark ships left, so there are three other sites? Or is it a site of ark landing, so there are two other sites?
 
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This behaviour was not introduced in the latest patch. It was present prior to the appearance of the alien. I was testing this about a month ago and noted no spectrogram image appears when you do the following:

1. Drop UA
2. Use discovery scanner
3. Scoop up UA
4. Drop UP

Do you guys mean that the UA changed ?
 
I'm curious whether the current known site is from which the ark ships left, so there are three other sites? Or is it a site of ark landing, so there are two other sites?

I'm sure this site is not their origin and each ark could have made multiple 'pit stops' along the way to their destination to gather resources etc.
 
the active obelisks have changed, i repeat the active obelisks have changed, there are active obelisks that yesterday were not

jesus christ, I have to make all the scans from start?!??!!? What's the point to have a beta if the mess up the release like this?!?!
 
I'm sure this site is not their origin and each ark could have made multiple 'pit stops' along the way to their destination to gather resources etc.

I doubt that this would be a 'pit stop' with all the construction that is really evident in the ruins, it doesnt look like a small operation... but I could be wrong. If its not the departure - I would hazard the assertion that it is one of their Ark landing spots. Would it then be a fair assumption to say that there are Two other landing spots, and perhaps their homeworld left to discover?
 
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This kinda sounds suspiciously like a bug doesn't it?

We discussed the possibility yesterday, but if you look at it, it's such a specific set of circumstances that it seems highly unlikely that it would be a bug. My main thinking is that if it was a bug then it would play the audio as well.

This behaviour was not introduced in the latest patch. It was present prior to the appearance of the alien. I was testing this about a month ago and noted no spectrogram image appears when you do the following:

1. Drop UA
2. Use discovery scanner
3. Scoop up UA
4. Drop UP

If you were testing this a month ago, why did you not come and tell us? :D
 
OK, I've ground out the 12 log entries from the Ancient Ruins. Quick observations:
- Biggest concern: There's 15 obelisks, and only 12 log entries. Maybe we're missing something and not getting three of them...
- Totem (probably religious data?) isn't necessary for getting any of the 12 codex entries at these ruins.
- Two possibilities for where other ruin locations might be.
1. On the same planet. Given the "monoliths" (?) are a communication network, something in the site (maybe the relic towers? Or the obelisk layout?) can act as a compass to the other ruins (kinda like following power poles); or
2. The other ruins are at the Conflux/Rift/Gap, and we'll need to wait for them to be turned back on/discovered. I personally think this is most likely, as the codex entries specifically reference the 3 ark ships the Guardians built.
- The times you get no message from scanning an obelisk seem to be when you've already got that entry.

PS: In doing the above, took every combination of every item (except single items) to every obelisk.
e.g Orb + casket to obelisk 1-15, orb + tablet to obelisk 1-15, orb + urn obelisk 1-15, orb + totem obelisk 1-15, orb + relic obelisk 1-15
..... casket + tablet obelisk 1-15, casket + urn 1-15, etc etc.

If you did the scans in the site previously you might remember Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta and Epsilon data scans. When viewed later on they were categorised as Historical, Biological, Language.... the missing category that probably relates to the totem was "Cultural".

Also, if there were 3 arks, and we are looking for 3 more ruin sites, then that would imply that the known ruins is on the home world.

Perhaps we are only looking for 2 more sites, with this one being one of the arks?
 
I'm curious whether the current known site is from which the ark ships left, so there are three other sites? Or is it a site of ark landing, so there are two other sites?

Just going from the numbers, we're seemingly finding entries roughly from 7-14 in the series, which go up to roughly 21, so I'd estimate there are two other sites, one containing entries roughly 1-7, and another 15-21.
 
If you did the scans in the site previously you might remember Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta and Epsilon data scans. When viewed later on they were categorised as Historical, Biological, Language.... the missing category that probably relates to the totem was "Cultural".

Also, if there were 3 arks, and we are looking for 3 more ruin sites, then that would imply that the known ruins is on the home world.

Perhaps we are only looking for 2 more sites, with this one being one of the arks?


I got a culture without having a totem. and I feel the data collected can't be used to tell us what obelisk will give what info, as even the data collected changes.

Someone else just posted they are rather sure the known ruins is not a homeworld. But I'd like to see some sort of background to that argument. Canonn?

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Just going from the numbers, we're seemingly finding entries roughly from 7-14 in the series, which go up to roughly 21, so I'd estimate there are two other sites, one containing entries roughly 1-7, and another 15-21.

Yes. However - we are looking at 80 ish total. and if we get around 20 from this site, that leaves 60 left. 3 more sites.
 
I might be reading too much into this - and it may already have been said, but doesn't this look a little like a plan print of the UA/UP to anyone?

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Apologies if this has been fully confirmed but I couldn't see it.
I noticed yesterday evening there was some talk about the UP activating on it's own without a scan, we picked up on it in chat while we were doing the livestream and once it finished we went off to do some testing on it. Under the instructions of Bungalo we tried as many possible variations of the test as we could and have come up with guaranteed ways of making it happen.

1. Drop UA
2. Use discovery scanner
3. Drop UP

or even

1. Drop UA
2. Use discovery scanner
3. Scoop up UA
4. Drop UP

In both situations just after dropping the UP it disables you ship but (and I'm surprised this wasn't picked up on more) it does not play the audio to you! It is worth noting that it does not even need to be the same person, 1 person can drop and scan the UA and another drop the UP and it happens.

We tried it with a variety of different objects, including some from the objects from the ruins and even some fish, but the only thing that triggers this reaction is the above.

It would be easy enough to write it off as the scan just lingering and then triggering the UP on release, but if this is the case then why does it not play the audio as well? Also why does it only happen after scanning a UA...

Cue X-files music





You're so funny acting all high and mighty and putting people down for not noticing how months ago you said there were definitely multiple ruin sites and you knew the locations. You were vague back then when we asked you how and now you claim again to know their locations, but actually you're just guessing by trying to piece together 2 completely different lore timelimes, without knowing which parts are still canon and assuming that old thargoid invasion points have been changed for something else...

North of Alioth :D:D:D

Jog on.

This behaviour was not introduced in the latest patch. It was present prior to the appearance of the alien. I was testing this about a month ago and noted no spectrogram image appears when you do the following:

1. Drop UA
2. Use discovery scanner
3. Scoop up UA
4. Drop UP

Do you guys mean that the UA changed ?

We discussed the possibility yesterday, but if you look at it, it's such a specific set of circumstances that it seems highly unlikely that it would be a bug. My main thinking is that if it was a bug then it would play the audio as well.



If you were testing this a month ago, why did you not come and tell us? :D

EVERYONE STOPS! :)

It is a well known bug, I remember it very well as I experienced it many times, I think I've filed even a bug report for this.
Basically, if you honk before deploying the UP and then you deploy it, it activates automatically. I'm not sure if the UA needs to be there or not, but I think yes.

I made some posts about this, but it was very long ago, I did it with the FIRST UP EVER, immediately after I DISCOVERED THE HONK BEHAVIOR, among the many experiments I've performed with it.
So it should be easy to find it, but I do not have time now...
 
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I doubt that this would be a 'pit stop' with all the construction that is really evident in the ruins, it doesnt look like a small operation... but I could be wrong. If its not the departure - I would hazard the assertion that it is one of their Ark landing spots. Would it then be a fair assumption to say that there are Two other landing spots, and perhaps their homeworld left to discover?

If they landed for good I'd expect to see a lot more signs of civilisation. However a 'pit stop' would be just land collect resources for a while ( day, weeks, months ) build a new FTL transmitter station ( ie the ruins ) and leave for next way point ( or end destination ), leaving the rest of the planet looking untouched ( as we found it ).
 
I was going through a screenshot that was uploaded onto a dropbox that was 16k screenshot, not sure of who here actually took it, but it was on the latest lave radio (warning the original image is quite big). and noticed something interesting.

The following is a cropped version of the screenshot, focus being the cockpit:
qAcamuR.png

it clearly shows the two cylindrical "pads", with what looks like a terminal on the middle one.

What I find odd is the the very non-organic looking tech at the ontop of the middle-pad-with-terminal, that reminds me of a pilot's seat.
This is consistant with the thread cockpit screenshot as well!
 
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