Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Surl Tesh-echer

Surl Tesh-echer
Hey, maybe someone had this problem. I can't scan things being in SRV. Well, sometimes I can scan, but sometimes scanning just doesn't work. I tried every fire group configuration but with no luck. Now I am standing in front of highlighted and selected obelisk but I can't scan it...

Ps. I am play with keyboard +mouse
 
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Starwolfe

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The new image and the whole "activating thing up front" - well, my run is not obeying that.

In fact, my run currently is not matching many of the pairs observed.


When I am done, I'll post the sheet I am using - but I suspect that each player has a randomized pairing that needs to be done to match up things.

You get the impatient message from Ram-Tah if neither of the items match for the scan, and get a blank when one of the items could match. You then get the data when the correct pair or sole item is present.

Just my guess atm, only done about 1/4 of the some 390 combinations currently...
 

Mengy

Mengy
Capt Apollo said:
Mengy's Alien Ruins Stellar Map Theory

I don't know if it still holds water, but it's interesting.
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I’ve been on my way back from Colonia but should be back to the ruins by Friday night. My first job is to measure the “new” ruins to see if any of the distances between features have changed. My hunch is they’ll stay the same, but I need to know for sure!

With regards to the obelisk data, I still think this mission is solvable by these single ruins alone. Activating other obelisks reliably is the key IMHO, we need to figure out how it’s done. My hunch is that the beacons factor into it somehow, and I plan on experimenting with it all in Solo, because Solo is the only controlled environment in which you can safely experiment. In Open and Mobius there is just too many other commanders doing so many things that you’ll never know if it’s what you did or something someone else did which activated something new.

Currently is seems like 13 data packs is the limit for Solo mode, when we finally figure out how to get that 14th data pack in Solo then we’ll be on our way to solving this thing IMHO.
 

John Stoutbeard

John Stoutbeard
programad said:
I mean the ruins are clearly symbols. We should interpret them.
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You're right, but I htink you missed all the suggestions so far. :) There's just so many posts & theories that the only way to keep track is to keep reading all posts, even if it takes you 18 hours.
Been there do... no wait. I forgot a few pages. Brb.
 

DuKk

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Gretings fellow CMDRs.

Two first for me, my first post on this forum and my first using a mobile phone.

The depth of information and hypothesis in this thread is overwhelmingly awesome. I must confess , I was in it for the money.... but now..... I'm in it for the answer. My mind is working overtime. So many maps, so much math. It can't all be wrong and it can't all be right. So my $0.02 might count for something and spawn a smarter mind than mind. Everything we see is in 3s or multiples thereof, hexagons, triangles , coordinates. Look at the top of the obelisk, look at the patterns on the ruins. I'm not a great person with screen-prints or Photoshop, maybe someone else wants to mock up my hypothesis. Look at the overall shape of the ruins. Use the pillars around the outside as distance markers and draw two overlapping hexagons using the boundary of the ruins.

s!AoWpcsJd5T01toArPYnErDPNeK74oA


I saw an image of an official elite map of Sol in this thread
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...9-The-Canonn?p=4748842&viewfull=1#post4748842

http://i.imgur.com/MbQiqmZ.png

So if the hypothesis around the centre mound holds true then we have a frame of reference to measure based on the columns around the perimeter. I'm off home soon and will get some CAD software involved. just though I would add what I see. I might be off by a galactic mile
 

M. Volgrand

M. Volgrand
piranha9 said:
Great work, Master of the Spreadsheets :)
One suggestion for the hyperdictions sheet (because it would help me creating the map): separate (and cleanup) the source and destination systems into two columns. currently, i can't use the systems columns directly, because it holds different data, so i have to clean it up everytime something changes.
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Unfortunately I don't have this data, as I only requested to report the destination system when interdicted. So most entries did not report the origin system :(. Sorry.
Anyway, there is a sheet (the tab "database (system name sort)") that is sorted per system name. It may help for your efforts :).
 

M. Volgrand

M. Volgrand
Checking the transcriptions of the data I found something interesting.

Culture 12 offers a very interesting observation: " It seems that the guardians had a particular fascination with geometric shapes, which they used to illustrate connections between themselves and the world around them". This leads me to think that the ruins we have found may be in that position for a purpose. The top peak of the pentagon they form points towards 65 (roughly north east). This may be related to star position, orbit of nearby planets (may it correlate with the mooon in low orbit to the planet?) or may be something as simple as... Pointing towards an importan feature of the planet in that direction?
 

danteuk

danteuk
Surl Tesh-echer said:
Hey, maybe someone had this problem. I can't scan things being in SRV. Well, sometimes I can scan, but sometimes scanning just doesn't work. I tried every fire group configuration but with no luck. Now I am standing in front of highlighted and selected obelisk but I can't scan it...

Ps. I am play with keyboard +mouse
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Pull back you need to be about 2/3 meters from the obelisk to scan it. Too close or too far and it won't. Scanning from the Turret view is also easier.
 
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evaldo10

evaldo10
Starwolfe said:
The new image and the whole "activating thing up front" - well, my run is not obeying that.

In fact, my run currently is not matching many of the pairs observed.


When I am done, I'll post the sheet I am using - but I suspect that each player has a randomized pairing that needs to be done to match up things.

You get the impatient message from Ram-Tah if neither of the items match for the scan, and get a blank when one of the items could match. You then get the data when the correct pair or sole item is present.

Just my guess atm, only done about 1/4 of the some 390 combinations currently...
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It's just a little coincidence that the combinations have only found the middle sections of data.

It seems to me that the first and last sections of data are in a different instance than this one or at a different site.
 

Owsla

Owsla
Surl Tesh-echer said:
Hey, maybe someone had this problem. I can't scan things being in SRV. Well, sometimes I can scan, but sometimes scanning just doesn't work. I tried every fire group configuration but with no luck. Now I am standing in front of highlighted and selected obelisk but I can't scan it...

Ps. I am play with keyboard +mouse
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I also have that problem from time to time,
Defo pressing T for turret view is easier for scanning.
 
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ExoForce

ExoForce
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This 3-stage communication tower (tothem ?) needs to be activated with a signal. I will bring ECM, UP and UA tonight.
Ive seen pictures where this object is much more clear in decoded signal somewhere.
 
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JeyofDark

J
DuKk said:
Gretings fellow CMDRs.

Two first for me, my first post on this forum and my first using a mobile phone.

The depth of information and hypothesis in this thread is overwhelmingly awesome. I must confess , I was in it for the money.... but now..... I'm in it for the answer. My mind is working overtime. So many maps, so much math. It can't all be wrong and it can't all be right. So my $0.02 might count for something and spawn a smarter mind than mind. Everything we see is in 3s or multiples thereof, hexagons, triangles , coordinates. Look at the top of the obelisk, look at the patterns on the ruins. I'm not a great person with screen-prints or Photoshop, maybe someone else wants to mock up my hypothesis. Look at the overall shape of the ruins. Use the pillars around the outside as distance markers and draw two overlapping hexagons using the boundary of the ruins.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AoWpcsJd5T01toArPYnErDPNeK74oA

I saw an image of an official elite map of Sol in this thread
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...9-The-Canonn?p=4748842&viewfull=1#post4748842

http://i.imgur.com/MbQiqmZ.png

So if the hypothesis around the centre mound holds true then we have a frame of reference to measure based on the columns around the perimeter. I'm off home soon and will get some CAD software involved. just though I would add what I see. I might be off by a galactic mile
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Your job is verry good and help full !


Somebody have an idea of where i can find a Totem ?
 
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knowles2

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First thing people should start doing is checking all the local news at the stations, may be their are clues to more ruins locations in there. Frontier already use this method to give us the location of Jacques, so it would make sense they use it for other stuff as well.
 
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danteuk

danteuk
At ruins in a PG ( my own ) and scanned obelisk 9 with a C+U - nothing, no messages, no money, drove to obelisk 7 scanned, nothing, no messages, but money went from 3m to 4m.
This is so bugged!
I'm still sat there waiting now(10mins later), to see if the data eventually turns up before I bother trying to scan anything else, still only seeing the 3 decoded messages I already got last night.

Interesting that the journal entries for the scans don't really show anything. ie it always says Material Collected, category: encoded, name: anceint???data
where ??? = language / historical / cultural / biological / technogical
regardless of if you actually get data or not.

EDIT: I scanned 6 and now my data scan data for the scan of 7 finally appeared in my inbox! ( I know because the journal told me 7 is biological and 6 is cultural and the data I got was bio ).

I scanned 2 and got more money but no messages, I scanned 1 and got money again and the message I should have got from scanning 2!
It seems each data scan data is not appearing until I do another scan ( even if it's not a correct scan ).
 
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