I am pretty sure they are different for each player- mine were not consistent with any other posting I've seen, though I guess that could be by server rather than player (I'm playing solo)- but as certain items are keyed to certain monoliths in a way that seems to be consistent (see Zenith's map at the start of the thread), there'll be a reasonable amount of crossover.
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I am pretty sure they are different for each player- mine were not consistent with any other posting I've seen, though I guess that could be by server rather than player (I'm playing solo)- but as certain items are keyed to certain monoliths in a way that seems to be consistent (see Zenith's map at the start of the thread), there'll be a reasonable amount of crossover.
As far as I can tell you can do it in private group. I think because the solution hasn't been worked out its occurring randomly more often in open.
I believe you exaggerate.
Ok, you don't like PVP and I respect that. But I have literally spent about 5 hours yesterday in the ruins, other 4 hours today... and just the last two we discovered that there were griefers and I got killed while defending the scientists.
You could always go to open, park at a few km from the ruins, get your SRV and drive there dismissing your ship. If your SRV gets killed you will reappear at your ship, no economic loss.
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Got killed and I didn't lose the mission. docked in different ports, didn't lose the mission
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So you are on XBOX right? I've been there, he was in Python I think. Got destroyed too (ASpx v. Python right
) as I opened fire on him after he started to shoot everyone. Well it's sad to say the least there are this kind of players who can really discourage you from playing in open.
Im planning (if needed) to park my SRV in front of the Server i want to scan. (ship dismissed). log out of Solo and into open with only my SRV. scope the area. Scan. leave.
If griefers are justing attacking people, then this is the easiest way to get the Open mode data without being an easy target.
Use Solo to move.... Open to scan.
like a mole.
Got killed and I didn't lose the mission. docked in different ports, didn't lose the mission
Awesome. Thanks for the info! I was afraid that I would screw things up if I did.
This is why I stick to Mobius or Fleetcom private groups. It makes playing Elite so much more fun and positive.
HAH, it's like a cloaking device! The menu mode switching is just activating and de-activating the cloak.
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deleted, cant read, think I need some sleep, or more brandy
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I honestly don't see what it could possibly be...what specific set of random/unconscious actions could be so consistently happening in open that literally every session I've been in has had the obelisks changing at regular intervals, and yet so unlikely to happen in solo after so many people have consciously tested so many combinations of actions? Seems impossible, I would be really surprised if there wasn't some type of glitch at play.
Probably because there are many different pilots carrying different relics which is providing random results as not everyone is coordinating.
Try setting up a private group with 2 or 3 pilots and do it systematically.
Just join Mobius and stop moaning
But you'd think that in solo, someone by now would've been in a session long enough and trying out enough things to trigger some kind of change to the obelisks. As far as I know, it's never happened...the 15 obelisks in solo are completely static.
And on the flip side, you would think that at least SOME open sessions would have the standard/default 15 obelisks lit up...but it seems like every session has been triggered somehow.
So I go back to the original point, how is something so easy to randomly trigger with multiple SRVs (so easy that every open session, on both PC and Xbox seems to have triggered it without anyone knowing what they did to make it happen)...but hasn't been replicated yet in solo despite a huge chunk of CMDRs exclusively doing their testing there?
The only thing I can think of is some kind of timed exercise that requires you to have an object present in multiple locations within a set amount of time...which obviously becomes much easier when you've got 10+ people carrying stuff around. And whatever it is that triggers it must keep it triggered for the rest of the instance.
Has anyone tried picking up EVERY object?
It's just a thought, but what if grabbing every artifact triggers something. Maybe that's why open/big PGs are different. Everyone is grabbing up an artifact. When I was in mobius, the obelisks had changed and I was trying to look for some artifacts but could not find any because people had already got them.
It's just a thought, but what if grabbing every artifact triggers something. Maybe that's why open/big PGs are different. Everyone is grabbing up an artifact. When I was in mobius, the obelisks had changed and I was trying to look for some artifacts but could not find any because people had already got them.
In open a server can be deactivated for one player and activated for another... what everyone see's isnt the same. it gives everyone a chance to scan something, without them all just being turned off.
Ive noticed in this game before when in a wing... My friend can see a crashed ship and i cannot. so what you see isnt always what everyone else can see.
So in open we have dozens of people all scanning different servers at different times and collectively a combination is being accidentally hit.
Ive been playing around with activation combinations in solo.
We have.
1. Positive Result - data block
2. Mission giver message, you're doing it wrong.
3. the server just shuts down.
Ive been chasing the 3rd result, trying to see if we can find a combination of server shutdowns that round robin the site in a specific order until something happens..
Ive just completed a single Relic combination and ive found two servers that just shutdown, i guess the next thing to do is the same again but with another relic combination and see what servers just shut down.
Then maybe from that we can build a relic combination vs server vs shutdown and an order to do that in, in a single run without restarting the session.
until.........some.........thing........
..maybe.
I gotta say though... for a puzzle this is pretty dry stuff. :/
I've just broken this one as well, but on G18. It is in the same group but not the same obelisk
I've just working on a new set of Maps according to the ideas and informations of the last days.
Especially the discovered zones from CMDR Zenith Ddraiglas, see image HERE
and the new "cluster-numbering" for the Obelisk seen HERE
First the overview-map:
And step by step the several clusters, 1st done:
And then i recognized that CMDR Kalearne(?) has postet a set like this (linked on first page).
But i think there is one failure in this set of maps, one "cluster" is missing, i think. In this map set the cluster E had to be two clusters, according to the the zones that CMDR Zenith Ddraiglas has discovered?!
So in my drawn map i put in another cluster, called H.
I don't know if this is important, and so i don't know if it is necessary to go on working with my map set.
What do you think?
Especially the discovered zones from CMDR Zenith Ddraiglas, see image HERE
and the new "cluster-numbering" for the Obelisk seen HERE
First the overview-map:
And step by step the several clusters, 1st done:
And then i recognized that CMDR Kalearne(?) has postet a set like this (linked on first page).
But i think there is one failure in this set of maps, one "cluster" is missing, i think. In this map set the cluster E had to be two clusters, according to the the zones that CMDR Zenith Ddraiglas has discovered?!
So in my drawn map i put in another cluster, called H.
I don't know if this is important, and so i don't know if it is necessary to go on working with my map set.
What do you think?
Your logic so far looks right to me!
I've just broken this one as well, but on G18. It is in the same group but not the same obelisk
Interesting, I got Historical 16 from the same Casket + Relic combo but it was from the center/circular set of obelisks (zone A).
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I definitely love your first overall map, I'm tempted to put it on the FP...
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