Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[nazo]

Well, on the lock and key thing, it's also possible that it was an intentionally placed clue in some form. If they disappeared after humans had established some form of society it's not impossible that they were aware of humans and much of their ways -- including perhaps basic symbols like that. I mean, for all we know they only disappeared just to leave the galaxy open for humans to expand or something. We just don't have enough information to assume much of anything.

Besides, the devs who write the actual game and clues within it are human.

I mean, it may be meaningless. For starters, what is the full original quote and the actual context? Maybe it's utterly unrelated. I'm just saying that if it was uttered in that form in some way related to this it's definitely something to at least seriously take into consideration.

You get paid for the work you have done. 1M credits for every item of information about The Guardians you manage to download. The 100M is for those who collect all the pieces of the puzzle.

Incidentally, you can "cash in" on your mission at the mission board, then next time you land at a station in Meene you get offered the mission again. This may however disqualify you for the 100M bonus (we don't know).

Man, thank you. I've had to ask that several times, completely ignored each time. [knocked out]

 

[Clanga]

True, but the game is made by humans after all.

It is, however I don't think Frontier would overlook such a simple concept of aliens having a different life than humans.

I personally think that the moonrise and the -setting are too conveniently placed on the small and the big circle when observing from the middle of the ruins (at the tip of the long line). The planet barely "wobbles"(if at all) so the moon would more or less rise and set at the exact same spot every time. So I think there must be something to it.

 

[stuarta]

Wait, what? Who said this? Is this some sort of official statement?

I've been trying to locate the quote but no success yet. Unfortunately, I read Drew's book around the same time as the UP image was found and have an inkling that it was either from the book / Drew and/or in the UP thread but I've been unable to find it. Will keep trying.

edit : Having just gone back to the FP to read the links on the UP and try to find the reference, it would appear that a) I am way behind on UP developments and b) that phrase may have been referring to the UP sound itself. However, I still believe that the theory regarding the decoding of glyphs is worth investigating.

 

[TiberiuS]

It is, however I don't think Frontier would overlook such a simple concept of aliens having a different life than humans.

I personally think that the moonrise and the -setting are too conveniently placed on the small and the big circle when observing from the middle of the ruins (at the tip of the long line). The planet barely "wobbles"(if at all) so the moon would more or less rise and set at the exact same spot every time. So I think there must be something to it.

True. The "landing pads" must have something to do with the moon rise and set. That's too obvious.
This doesn't mean that the shapes can't have a different meaning, too.

 

[Oenta]

I used debug cam when I was "aiming" to dump the 16 relics from my hold, and just hovering over with my ship did not cause anything to light up. I was nearly sitting on top of the obelisks with a hold full of ancient items (ie, was bumping them with my shields) and nothing was happening. My observations indicate that ship-carried ancient items do not seem to cause any activation.

JJ12880

Ok thanks, I think this confirms the puzzle can only be solved in Open?

Because there is no way to activate more obelisks without only 1 SRV...

Now I have to find some nice and active players who are willing to share theories and are willing to solve this puzzle in Open.

Who wants to join me in a private group?

I am playing on Xbox, my gamertag: Oenta

 

[TiberiuS]

Have people tried to wing up and every player in the wing drives in his SRV to one of the pillars? If they change their signal when a SRV is close, maybe something happens when all 4 are "activated" the same time.

May be coincidence, but
there are 4 pillars
4 players can be in a wing

worth a try, right?

Also all pillars need to contain the Artifact i'd say. Makes no sense without.

I'll bump this. Has this been tried by someone?

 

[kizcat]

Come on. They are British. They drive on the left and gone Brexit. Humans don't do this.

*The correct side of the road

 

[zorbaq]

I'll bump this. Has this been tried by someone?

The experiments performed before the beta proved that the site is not designed to be interacted with by multiple commanders simultaneously. If this has changed, I'm sure Ram Tah would give us an appropriate clue.

The codices not activating and generally misbehaving whilst playing SOLO is most likely a mere bug.

 

[Sorbicol]

Come on. They are British. They drive on the left and gone Brexit. Humans don't do this.

Also only fractionally more people voted for brexit than voted for remain. All in all, we're only half mad.

 

[chuci]

Also only fractionally more people voted for brexit than voted for remain. All in all, we're only half mad.

And now half depressed

 

[Jintosh]

For some reason I'm having issues trying to update the spreadsheet, so here's my results so far while playing in a private group:

Obelisk Data Type Research Number Hold Content
------- ------------------------------- --------------- --------------
G19 Decoded Ancient Data Technology Research 7/20 Orb + Relic
E6 Decoded Ancient Data Biology Research 7/19 Urn + Relic
G17 Decoded Ancient Data Historical Research 8/21 Casket + Relic
G18 Decoded Ancient Data Historical Research 10/21 Casket + Urn
E1 Decoded Ancient Data Historical Research 14/21 Casket + Relic
? Decoded Ancient Data Language Research 12/21 ? + ?
C21 Decoded Ancient Data Language Research 14/21 Tablet + Relic

The question marks are for a result that I got when another commander got a successful scan, but didn't say what obelisk they were at or what they had in their hold.

In addition, I've seen the following non-default obelisks activate but I didn't get a success:
G32, G29, G13, G12, G10, G3, C44, C45, D7, E4, E31, E35

One other thing I noticed was that during one session, after the obelisks reset I got "data already received" messages from the default obelisks at G17, G18, G19, G20 and A3. I didn't try the rest of the site at that point., though now I think I should have done...

 

[nazo]

True. The "landing pads" must have something to do with the moon rise and set. That's too obvious.
This doesn't mean that the shapes can't have a different meaning, too.

That they can line up with it if you're facing the right way at the right time does not guarantee that they must have to do with the moon. Get in the right position and any point in the ruin can be lined up with the moon.

The experiments performed before the beta proved that the site is not designed to be interacted with by multiple commanders simultaneously. If this has changed, I'm sure Ram Tah would give us an appropriate clue.

The codices not activating and generally misbehaving whilst playing SOLO is most likely a mere bug.

I just don't see any reason to believe they would make it utterly impossible in solo mode. But it's definitely not a bug. For one, it's way too consistent. No one has reported going into solo and finding a different set of obelisks activated for example. It's always the same ones. No one in solo has ever gotten any others to ever activate even by accident yet.

No, I agree that it must surely be possible in solo, but I think it's something people are doing in open accidentally that we aren't easily able to repeat intentionally. There must be some sort of clue to this, but we haven't really found it. We may just be looking in the wrong way perhaps. For example, I'm still convinced that the beacons just feel far too significant to simply ignore. Given that in open we have people tearing all over the place, dropping artifacts everywhere, pulling stupid crap, shooting each other for no reason except that they can, and so on and so on, it's entirely possible that in open people just keep accidentally doing it.

 

[FrogsFriend]

I've been trying to locate the quote but no success yet. Unfortunately, I read Drew's book around the same time as the UP image was found and have an inkling that it was either from the book / Drew and/or in the UP thread but I've been unable to find it. Will keep trying.

edit : Having just gone back to the FP to read the links on the UP and try to find the reference, it would appear that a) I am way behind on UP developments and b) that phrase may have been referring to the UP sound itself. However, I still believe that the theory regarding the decoding of glyphs is worth investigating.

It's from a group of missions that was in the game in the early days, then disappeared during an update at some point.
See this post, first spoiler tag:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-Find-Raxxla?p=2571931&viewfull=1#post2571931

 

[Auntystatic]

the first time i saw the alien ruins, i thought that site A reminded me of the laser from the death star at first glance, now finding out it is part of the "monolith network" i think that site A is what transmits whatever kind of signal they used in a directional method, if you position your ship in the middle of the triangle on the raised platform, and face vertical, there are 3 systems nearly directly inline with you almost forming a triangle, within a single jump range, i've only checked a couple of times so not sure if the systems will move about and it was pure coincidence they lined up.

the systems that lined up were;
synuefe DJ-F A93-4
synuefe DJ-F A93-2
synuefe DJ-F A93-0

this is my first post and not sure if this has been noticed and discussed before, but i am adament there is another site somewhere nearby, ram tah himself says in the mission bio "please explore as many ancient sites as you can find"

think planetary rotation!

 

[hayler]

Hi All

The obelisk we call A9 appears to be out of alignment with what you would expect, i.e. the opposite of A2, but as you can see its placed to the left, could be a dev placed it badly, could be a clue, but id imagine that the Guardians were slighly better at placement than our old hat Egyptians who i'm sure wouldn't have made such a gaff.

 

[Tess R Act]

the first time i saw the alien ruins, i thought that site A reminded me of the laser from the death star at first glance, now finding out it is part of the "monolith network" i think that site A is what transmits whatever kind of signal they used in a directional method, if you position your ship in the middle of the triangle on the raised platform, and face vertical, there are 3 systems nearly directly inline with you almost forming a triangle, within a single jump range, i've only checked a couple of times so not sure if the systems will move about and it was pure coincidence they lined up.

the systems that lined up were;
synuefe DJ-F A93-4
synuefe DJ-F A93-2
synuefe DJ-F A93-0

this is my first post and not sure if this has been noticed and discussed before, but i am adament there is another site somewhere nearby, ram tah himself says in the mission bio "please explore as many ancient sites as you can find"

the planet is tidaly locked to the main body (here 2, a Y-Type Star) but its main body rotates around it Main-Body (F-Type start), so at any different time within the 6.9d rotainal period they will poit somewhere else.

- - - Updated - - -

Historical: 9/21
This makes me wonder why a species would through natural selection develop red skin. What colour or class must the star be to generate a species that would develop red skin?

I'd hazard that their home system has an M, L, T or Y class star.

Perhaps it is coincidence, but if it does have a Y class star, it may explain why the planet that the ruins is on is also orbiting a Y class star.

Perhaps interestingly about this is this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitability_of_red_dwarf_systems



This could mean that those in the north, the red skinned guardians are a red star's version of Caucasians.

under a reddish star class light, the skin would appear "white"/bright, so on thecontrary, a F-Type (greenish light) for a hunter-type individual with reddish skin would be preferable, as the skin wouf appear "black"/dark (camouflage whilst hunting) inho

 

[TiberiuS]

That they can line up with it if you're facing the right way at the right time does not guarantee that they must have to do with the moon. Get in the right position and any point in the ruin can be lined up with the moon.

They line up with moonrise and moonset when you are in the center of the compund on the ridge. So it is obvious and almost too much to be conincidence.
But one should always be careful with absolute statements. With this I agree.

 

[Olivia Vespera]

the planet is tidaly locked to the main body (here 2, a Y-Type Star) but its main body rotates around it Main-Body (F-Type start), so at any different time within the 6.9d rotainal period they will poit somewhere else.

The system isn't tidally locked to the main body. It has a retrograde rotation. and an axial tilt of 94.1 degrees. it's on it's side and rolling on the floor of it's orbital plane around Synuefe XR-H d11-102 1.

Its rotational poles, are pointing in the same direction, facing the same sky it's not rotating on its poles.

 

[Tess R Act]

The system isn't tidally locked to the main body. It has a retrograde rotation. and an axial tilt of 94.1 degrees. it's on it's side and rolling on the floor of it's orbital plane around Synuefe XR-H d11-102 1.

Its rotational poles, are pointing in the same direction, facing the same sky it's not rotating on its poles.

yep -my bad, mixed it up with another one, sry

edit . nevertheless the Y-Type is rotating around the F-type in 617.7d, so apperances in sky on d11-102 1b should change over time (except the Y-Star) and the different items on site will not point at the same stars all the time

 

[Deedrix]

There are 3 Ancient ruin sites to be found