Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[CMDR ChronoZoggt]

It scans (I did it last night) but I don't think it gives you any information.

With regard to people thinking that various parts of the ruins "line up " with constellations and other cosmological features, I did note last night that the group of obelisks at group E (according to the picture on the front page to this thread) pretty much lines up with the Pleiades Nebula. I even took a picture:

Alignment with Pleiades

A couple of things about this:

1. We know from Ram Tah that the Monolith network forms their FTL, Civilisation wide communication network. Communications need line of sight, even across Interstellar space (I think) - even if you have to use Satellites to get around "things in the way" like curvature of the earth, or maybe other stellar features. I did notice that there is a Black Hole not far away from the Site - I bookmarked it in game and complete forgot to take a note of the system. I'm wildly speculating that might be significant. Probably not though!

2. The planet the ruins are located on rotates. That, in itself, probably means it's not an in-game feature we need to worry about. There are too many variables at the site to look at things aligning with other things. There might be a map somewhere - the site itself might be one - but really we've not figured it out if that's what it is.

I'm back to trying to work out what their Glyphs look like and some sort of key to unlocking them. Whatever it is is probably totally obvious and we're completing missing it.

With the distances we are looking at here, line of sight is not a problem. A object blocking the waves would create a wave-shadow.

Waves "enter" wave-shadows and at a given distance, which is calculated using wavelength and wave speed, after the border of the shadow, they will have fromed a complete wavefront again. This is in part, why we can have few signal towers IRL with a lot of recievers (actually there are a lot of reasons for that, but this is one of em). Additionally, as you pointed out with the black holes, Gravity of stellar objects helps the waves curve into the shadow even faster, thereby closing the gap to form a complete wavefront again. Of course you are loosing energy every time you have to close a gap, but we can assume that energy was not a concern for them. If all that even applies to FTL travel of waves, I cannot say, but theoretically it should. Especially when using extremely low frequencies (they were used for submarine comms, as they could bounce between the athmosphere and the gound better and lost less energy in the process, so they could even pierce water), which close the shadows faster (in less distance after the object that caused it) than their higher frequency counterparts, communication without line of sight is perfectly possible.

 

[Mr.Loma]

Anyone found an "Ancient Pillar" till yet?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vazliv2687patix/EliteDangerous64%202017-01-13%2022-41-45.png?dl=0

And Technology Data 8/21

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sexvt9wurzweymm/EliteDangerous64%202017-01-13%2021-47-09.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0x5f7715s7xzcwl/EliteDangerous64%202017-01-13%2021-48-09.png?dl=0

Ancient pillars are the parts you can shoot off to get the relics to drop.

 

[nazo]

Since no one seems to be talking about it at all and a picture is worth a thousand words, an enhanced image of the bottom of each of the beacons:

 

[Cavindar]

Hi All where about is Obelisk 15 on the ruins cant seem to find it.

 

[Rixaeton]

Since no one seems to be talking about it at all and a picture is worth a thousand words, an enhanced image of the bottom of each of the beacons:
http://i.imgur.com/4jZ3rSB.jpg

I love it!

If it is not too much trouble, can you also scan the fourth beacon, and label each image with which is which? I think it might be become very important.

 

[TiberiuS]

Here are my findings from a recent survey:

First multiple cmdrs were clearly seeing the same obelisks lit up (although getting most of them to confirm that over comms was impossible. Thanks to the one cmdr who did respond).

The obelisks in question were E14 and E33, I tried both of these with Urn + Totem and after relogging (they were still lit) Urn + Tablet and got the error message for these after a delay. The other cmdr tried with Urn + Casket on at least one of them and also got an error message. I don't know if anyone can add that data to the spreadsheet it appears to be locked.

I also tried E32 and E12 with Urn + Tablet and got error messages each time.

Something odd did happen in addition. I started scanning one lit obelisk (E22 or 23 I think) and it went out mid scan and a different obelisk E12 lit up instead. Anyone else had that happen? Are they on a timer?

You're welcome.

unfortunately it wasn't very successful.

We tried a bit more and with other CMDRs that came later other Obelisks lit up. Why though, is the question?
Seems not to depend on cargo.

 

[CMDR ChronoZoggt]

Has anyone tried listening to the ruins and looking at the sounds through a spectrometer? I just did it for a minute by turning off everything in my SRV besides life support, and parking next to an obelisk.

I don't know anything really about spectrometry, but this is what I got from a minute of recording. http://puu.sh/tmMHQ/1d6ad8c79f.png

I am no sound engineer, but that looks very strange indeed! Nice find!

Maybe someone with more knowledge of spectrograms can take a better and more informed look at it?

 

[Mr.Loma]

I love it!

If it is not too much trouble, can you also scan the fourth beacon, and label each image with which is which? I think it might be become very important.

these are the 3 sides of one beacon, all beacons are the same.
There is already a site that generates the Obelisk patterns and show the beacon images in them. I'll look for the link and edit it in.

->this one : https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/

Keep being exited, no real clear information has come off it

 

[Rixaeton]

these are the 3 sides of one beacon, all beacons are the same.
There is already a site that generates the Obelisk patterns and show the beacon images in them. I'll look for the link and edit it in.

Ah well... I'll calm down now then Thanks for replying

 

[kizcat]

What was the maximum amount of data anyones been able to get in solo? was it 12 or 13?

 

[Deedrix]

One usually also provides evidence for a theory.

While I agree that it is perfectly possible that there is more than one ruin site, why does need to be 3? Why not 10 or 100?

I will say though that someone said it was very important to side with the alliance in a coming conflict.

Ram Tah gave us this mission at the ruins.

I wonder what Bill Turner will do.

 

[nazo]

these are the 3 sides of one beacon, all beacons are the same.
There is already a site that generates the Obelisk patterns and show the beacon images in them. I'll look for the link and edit it in.

Yeah, I think all of the beacons have the same glyphs on them, but seriously, why aren't people talking about this? I don't know if they actually are words though. When I said that I had forgotten the one I put on the last image there. I find it interesting that in each one (it's less clear in some of them from further away in that picture) they always have the same number of triangles, just arranged differently. Rather than words, perhaps it's just a simple story or indication of something that should be done. The last one with the primary triangle completely moved up and all the little ones beneath it in particular seems important.

 

[allocater]

For E (H) cluster I am currently suspecting it is by row like this. How far it goes needs to be tested and tablet row needs to be confirmed, as well as the third row identified:

updated: E21 also Totem/Culture area

 

[Darkness Dreams]

Since no one seems to be talking about it at all and a picture is worth a thousand words, an enhanced image of the bottom of each of the beacons:
http://i.imgur.com/4jZ3rSB.jpg

I spent a few weekends pouring over these...somewhere way back in this thread...didnt seem to amount ot much.

thought i was getting somewhere with them but never figured it out. remember i was looking into them being hexadecimal. Seems there was some correlation with it however but didnt work out.

However feel free to retry.

 

[Neakas]

I Noticed those aswell..Even more interesting in my Opinions is, that the Sides on all Beacons allways face the Same Direction. For Instance the one with only one Pattern in the Middle allways faces 98° on the Compass on all Beacons i Checked.

Thoughts?

 

[Blagsc]

Yeah, I think all of the beacons have the same glyphs on them, but seriously, why aren't people talking about this? I don't know if they actually are words though. When I said that I had forgotten the one I put on the last image there. I find it interesting that in each one (it's less clear in some of them from further away in that picture) they always have the same number of triangles, just arranged differently. Rather than words, perhaps it's just a simple story or indication of something that should be done. The last one with the primary triangle completely moved up and all the little ones beneath it in particular seems important.

a while ago when the ruins were first found they were talked about...I think even Everyone that was currently there was screenshotted....and since all of them Were the same and pointed the same way most of it was deemed Decorations or just Fancy textures, plus we couldnt be able to read them currently anyways

 

[TiberiuS]

I Noticed those aswell..Even more interesting in my Opinions is, that the Sides on all Beacons allways face the Same Direction. For Instance the one with only one Pattern in the Middle allways faces 98° on the Compass on all Beacons i Checked.

Thoughts?

Easiest way to place them. The model has not been rotated.

 

[Rixaeton]

I Noticed those aswell..Even more interesting in my Opinions is, that the Sides on all Beacons allways face the Same Direction. For Instance the one with only one Pattern in the Middle allways faces 98° on the Compass on all Beacons i Checked.

Thoughts?

Two of the walls of the site are also 98 degrees, so the beacons are parallel with the site edges.

 

[Blagsc]

Easiest way to place them. The model has not been rotated.

^this , If i remember correctly all the beacons are exactly the same except placed in different parts of the map....If anything they might just be pointers for what part of the site is what aka Beacon A is area a and etc

 

[Mr.Loma]

Yeah, I think all of the beacons have the same glyphs on them, but seriously, why aren't people talking about this? I don't know if they actually are words though. When I said that I had forgotten the one I put on the last image there. I find it interesting that in each one (it's less clear in some of them from further away in that picture) they always have the same number of triangles, just arranged differently. Rather than words, perhaps it's just a simple story or indication of something that should be done. The last one with the primary triangle completely moved up and all the little ones beneath it in particular seems important.

The reason is, I think that the focus currently lies on getting as much of the Ram Tah info as possible.
They could be "words"/characters like in some languages(chinese/japanese).
They remind me of egyptian cuneiform.
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/ele...cuneiform-background-composition-46247355.jpg
The obelisks can show words with the combined symbols, who knows

https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/