Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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The irony here is that ppl still trying so hard with obelisk scans and making a lot of theories about it, even after it was confirmed to be broken, yet so easily and readily dismiss other things. :)

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except that obelisk being permanently shut down until relog is at the very least a very poor design choice, if we assume it is not a bug. I can hardly imagine developers intended us to relog constantly while we make our tries and errors, trying to figure out how this whole thing works.



On the side note, I just arrived at a recently mentioned HIP 17862 crashsite, and got immediately scanned there 3 times in a row. Is it normal? Note, I am in solo and have all artifacts from ruins on board.
After playing this game more than 1.5 years i can expect everything, remember what we had on rise to power CGs?
 
The Guardians were a silicone based life form, weren't they?

- Crystals
- Triangles
- Hexagons
- Tetrahedons
- Sharp cutting arms
- Easy integration with AI implants
 
is anybody good enough to cross reference this vid to find out which star the pole star is, it would be logical to suppose that this could be a place for one of the outposts/ark landing spots, a good candidate i would say.

wheres Xdeath when you need him.

I think the Pole star is B Centauri, but I travelled here from the ruins, trying to keep track of the star as I came, so could have made a horrendous mistake, could someone at the ruins cross check so see if this looks correct from site.

Vid from ruins to identify Pole - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyAQ11wqlwg
 
While out at the ruins working on solutions, several times I drove along the long elevated path to the large round area at the "top" of the site. During one of those trips, I noticed that the moon was directly ahead of me above the path.

And then I wonder... The decoded messages mentioned early space faring with non-rocket power, like slingshot launchers, with breathable gel to cushion the passengers.

What if the ruins were imagined as a launch site? That long elevated road, leading directly to the center of the circular raised area ahead... The slingshot path, directly to the moon when it is at the end of that path. Again, first space steps to their moon, another similarity with humanity (a theme from Tah's decodings).

I'm not certain of the moons orbital behavior (whether it rotates), but if I had realized this at the time I was looking at the moon ahead of that path, I'd have flown a bee line for the center of the moon's disc and done a search.

Still, I don't put much into this idea. For the guardians to have launched from the ruins site would imply that planet was their homeworld? I've yet to gain much perspective on the time scale of their history yet, but the planet doesn't seem to show signs of it's past having an atmosphere or water.
 
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I guess i will leave the ruins for now until we got confirmation from FD that they are working correctly..
i am currently more worried about the hyperdictions. by looking at the map, they now seem to be happening dangerously close to the bubble (nearest one 237ly from sol).

will jump around in that area, trying to catch some more flowers ;)
 
While out at the ruins working on solutions, several times I drove along the long elevated path to the large round area at the "top" of the site. During one of those trips, I noticed that the moon was directly ahead of me above the path.

And then I wonder... The decoded messages mentioned early space faring with non-rocket power, like slingshot launchers, with breathable gel to cushion the passengers.

What if the ruins were imagined as a launch site? That long elevated road, leading directly to the center of the circular raised area ahead... The slingshot path, directly to the moon when it is at the end of that path.

I'm not certain of the moons orbital behavior (whether it rotates), but if I had realized this at the time I was looking at the moon ahead of that path, I'd have flown a bee line for the center of the moon's disc and done a search.

Still, I don't put much into this idea. For the guardians to have launched from the ruins site would imply that planet was their homeworld? I've yet to gain much perspective on the time scale of their history yet, but the planet doesn't seem to show signs of it's past having an atmosphere or water.

That was already investigated. Nothing has been found yet, but honestly it is like a wild goose chase to try and find something on the surface. If you wanna try, go for it.

All that has been found yet is a persistent POI it seems of a crashed Nav Beacon.

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Yep, totally pi in Ternary. Well, every sequence ever is inside pi in some form. So don't think it helps all that much.

damnit :D
 
I'm sure this has been mention before but if you shoot any structures with a stock multi-cannon it causes lightning to jump all over the place - it's very pretty and would suggest they are shielded in some way - other than that though, I can't see how that helps. I do wonder what powers the site, I'm tempted to place the Relics into the coffin type structures to see if they provide more power to the Obelisks ...

The other outstanding questions are -

Is this the landing site of one of the Arks? - If so there will be another two sites (if) they landed as intended
The Homeworld cannot be that far away as they never had FTL travel - 10 generations in a Ark would probably get them no further than 100 ly Max! - Looking for F Class systems that may be a candidate there are thousands! in a 100ly radius! :(

One other question... Did we ever get a clue to these ruins? I don't mean the trailer either :)
 
I think the Pole star is B Centauri, but I travelled here from the ruins, trying to keep track of the star as I came, so could have made a horrendous mistake, could someone at the ruins cross check so see if this looks correct from site.

Vid from ruins to identify Pole - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyAQ11wqlwg

Hayler im at the Ruins still and that looks like its about right though i wasn't expecting it to be so far out, have you been in to the system yet and scanned it at all? if so can you post a pic of the system map please.
 
On the side note, I just arrived at a recently mentioned HIP 17862 crashsite, and got immediately scanned there 3 times in a row. Is it normal? Note, I am in solo and have all artifacts from ruins on board.

The Unknown Artefacts scattered there are scanning you, as they usually do.

Ok, I bit ;) Took a small jaunt to the moon, no POI, so not persistent. Nice view of 1 B though!

nuff said. QED.
Thanks for checking.
 
I'm sure this has been mention before but if you shoot any structures with a stock multi-cannon it causes lightning to jump all over the place - it's very pretty and would suggest they are shielded in some way - other than that though, I can't see how that helps. I do wonder what powers the site, I'm tempted to place the Relics into the coffin type structures to see if they provide more power to the Obelisks ...

The other outstanding questions are -

Is this the landing site of one of the Arks? - If so there will be another two sites (if) they landed as intended
The Homeworld cannot be that far away as they never had FTL travel - 10 generations in a Ark would probably get them no further than 100 ly Max! - Looking for F Class systems that may be a candidate there are thousands! in a 100ly radius! :(

One other question... Did we ever get a clue to these ruins? I don't mean the trailer either :)

They did develop FTL travel and we are still missing the last chapter of the history book. :)
 
Lot of people were talking smart about the ruins being a map, and the big circle is the 'you are here'. There's a relic pylon right on that. If the Relic Pylons represent data (they got the glow and the little triangle tesslation to match obelisks), there may be 4 sites of interests total. One on the moon (smaller circle) and the other two might be floating out in space. Its pretty weird for the top right relic to be out side the structure completely. Unless it was done for a good reason. Have we any scientist looking for SS's around the planet and moon?
 
In this map I've highlighted just the artifacts and beacons, and drawn lines from the centre of Group A to each artifact, which to me appear to be a focus, its possible that the yellow dots indicate stars, the blue beacons could indicate additional ruins. Its possible that the orange line length are proportional to the distance from our main star. I've left the purple line in just in case it is related to the galactic plane, and may help in identifying possible additional ruin sites.

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Given the recent "number 23" ... I really thought this looked a lot like the Pleiades ...


o7
 
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Hayler im at the Ruins still and that looks like its about right though i wasn't expecting it to be so far out, have you been in to the system yet and scanned it at all? if so can you post a pic of the system map please.

Here you go, nothing here but two stars.
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I note that the pyramid points directly at the pole when approached from the nearby beacon, or when viewed from Group A, so here is a couple of shots looking back at the ruins, or down from the top of the pyramid so to speak.
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One other question... Did we ever get a clue to these ruins? I don't mean the trailer either :)

Well, there was the galnet article in-game, but that was more announcing the find. I don't recall anything else in game pointing to these ruins (or any others) - so this site must be intended to tell us something more or FD would presumably have given info when they set up the Ram Tah mission (and he also doesn't give a clue to where the ruins are :) ).
 
Not quite. A monolith is a single block of stone, but doesn't have to be by itself- Stonehenge is a set (correct collective noun? Actually it's probably 'henge') of monoliths. When you take a monolith & shape it to have a pointy top (e.g. Cleopatra's Needle) then it becomes an obelisk. ;)

That is right. To be considered MONO lith, must be made of a single piece.

From Online Etymonolgy Dictionary:

I stand corrected and withdraw my insistence that a monolith must be by itself. Afraid I was conflating the meaning of monolith in the geological sense with the meaning in the man made sense! Apologies guys!

Linguistic reasons aside, I still think that it doesn't make sense that the obelisks are the monolith network due to practical reasons mentioned previously. To me they seem more like data archives or information points in a museum.
 
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