Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[Trafalgar Law]

The ruins part from the movie kind of looks like the northern part with obelisks from when the ruins looked like this:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_original/eoy5rlx1nf3trbbfycas.png

Yes you're right. I can see which slope the SRV is heading down now in that view.

 

[ShadowAviator]

Have we confirmed the fact that the ruins increase the damage done to your SRV. It does.

Boosting straight up with 2 pips in ENG, the fall will do 1-2% damage.

BUT, at the ruins it will do over 10% damage.

Maybe this was already known.

 

[NorMonsta]

I could not match the pleiades with the diagram.

https://www.naic.edu/~gibson/pleiades/ukschmidt/pleiades_ukschmidt_clean_names.jpg

try looking at the pleiades from another angle......

 

[Maxulic]

this spreadsheet has all the confirmed combos:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...57nTBtDqRan41SZKpppJrmwA3c/edit#gid=208480479

Although I didn't get a result from obelisk E14 when I scanned it earlier using the combination on the spreadsheet.

Same. I am currently at 34 data entries —confirmed by a reward of 34M— though I deleted one by mistake a few days ago and I can't tell which entry it was. I am fairly sure that the last 2 I need are E14 and E15 and I am just instance hopping till I find these 2 lit obelisks (speaking of which, the way of tracking our results for this mission is seriously horrible, it is going to be such a pain if we ever find the other sites and we are getting close to 101 entries, there were better ways of tracking our progress than the notifications).

So unless it was the one given at E14 I got no result at all with an orb and totem in my hold.

 

[frumious]

Not the same one though. The one in the vid was orbiting a star.

I've not really looked at that vid before, but that SRV at 22seconds is not at the same ruins as we've been scanning at synuefe.

And what planet is that at 7 seconds? Barnards loop in background might not be too far from the ruins?

 

[mclester]

I put up a post at 9:11 regarding possible means of locating other sites, got delayed by mods as I'm new to this lark. Just wandering what you think. It's on page 993.

 

[Glastinghouse]

Snip

I've not really looked at that vid before, but that SRV at 22seconds is not at the same ruins as we've been scanning at synuefe.

I've said it a couple of pages earlier already: the Ruins in the trailer are version 1 which were found, visited, inspected, mystery'd about before the layout was changed with patch 2.2.03. I can provide a screenshot when in doubt.

 

[morph113]

And what planet is that at 7 seconds? Barnards loop in background might not be too far from the ruins?

I don't know but I'm pretty sure it's of no significance. It's just to show off the geysers you can find on planets, which was also a new feature in 2.2.

 

[Trafalgar Law]

Same. I am currently at 34 data entries though I deleted one by mistake a few days ago and I can't tell which entry it was (speaking of which, the way of tracking our results for this mission is seriously horrible, it is going to be such a pain if we ever find the other sites and we are getting close to 101 entries, there were better ways of tracking our progress than the notifications).

So unless it was the one given at E14 I got no result at all with an orb and totem in my hold.

I'm pretty sure I don't have Tech 12 (although there is no way to check if they've been deleted), so I'm not sure that E14 is correct. Maybe someone else can verify it?

The lack of information on this mission is annoying. A simple 'that's correct but you've already got that one' message from Ram Tah would have been extremely useful (and would allow you to check your own results).

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I've said it a couple of pages earlier already: the Ruins in the trailer are version 1 which were found, visited, inspected, mystery'd about before the layout was changed with patch 2.2.03. I can provide a screenshot when in doubt.

I'm already convinced from someone else's screenshot. Not from the same angle but I can see where the SRV was positioned for the photo.

 

[Zulu Romeo]

I'm back in Meene but I can't see a way to hand in data.

 

[AdmlAdama]

The hex:
8017a d5767 22e871 10326 7ec5 53b5dcdd3e 6d8d3174e05 2559100c4e9 2a999c30062 444f6c265d6 5cc1e80c397 2144681647e2

Looks a little like Unicode. So the question is what kind of encoding this is.

113 long or 102 with spaces removed

 

[Tsukalos]

Yeah, each part of the (hex) code converts to some numbers

Spoiler

524666
874343
2287729
66342
32453
359533436222
7528324222469
2566528222441
2927452422242
4694244222422
6374243222423
36577687783394

 

[psyndor]

Well It is hex... It's just not words... but it is definitely hex... what it means is another question.

The conversion to decimal results in the following numbers:
hex 8017a is decimal 524666
hex d5767 is decimal 874343
hex 22e871 is decimal 2287729
hex 10326 is decimal 66342
hex 7ec5 is decimal 32453
hex 53b5dcdd3e is decimal 359533436222
hex 6d8d3174e05 is decimal 7528324222469
hex 2559100c4e9 is decimal 2566528222441
hex 2a999c30062 is decimal 2927452422242
hex 444f6c265d6 is decimal 4694244222422
hex 5cc1e80c397 is decimal 6374243222423
hex 2144681647e2 is decimal 36577687783394

It is sometimes easier to see meaning in the decimal equivalents of hexadecimal numbers

 

[wi|d_dog]

I've had a look at 2 of the maps we have available and decided to see if I could make any sense of the markings. I decided to rotate the image at some point as was suggested here to match geographical north (haven't confirmed this personally yet). Here are some scribbles:

http://imgur.com/a/cbkTO

1. So in both maps I was able to draw lines from the 2 groups at G which converge at the rocket shaped marking at A.
2. In the colored map I was able to draw a line from there over one of the beacons to the centre of the triangle at B.
3. The "random" pieces of wall inside the hexagon could be pointing places so connecting those I was able to draw two lines through group E, which then led to another piece of wall which directed the line straight through the middle of group D. There things stopped unfortunately. To slightly deviate from an assumption below, this line did originally end at a beacon instead of group D.
4. When connecting the pieces of wall you can draw a line all the way from left to right going through the middle of the planet.

Some assumptions, ideas:

1. Ram Tah has not made any remarks about there being a link between the crash sites and the ruins. He did however mention sites which would suggest there is more than one. The Galnet news refers to him as leading the research at the ruins. This could be just this site or several.
2. I thought it was a great idea to compare the before and after 2.2.03 pictures but I think that will only help if you know the answer. Without the answer it's best to focus on what we have and not confuse things further.
3. The pieces of wall around the edges are there for re-inforcement only (not likely), it's a sun dial (with a cycle that long, not likely), it's a distance measure (most likely, cut out some of the markings that seemed to be at the same angle and got a pretty good match)
4. The piece of wall along the left side is at a different angle on purpose (hopefully, as it points to the middle of group A in the greyscale map)
5. Group C could be just a picture of a different kind of spaceship, or it could be a course change (270 degrees to 30 degrees), or it could be coordinates (with some goodwill the left group is 8 x 4 with one piece missing would make 7 x 4 and 1 x 3, makes 31)
6. It's hard to think of the "pyramids" as anything other than pointers/markers so perhaps the bottom one shows the start point for navigation?
7. Group G is also following the lines of the hill they are on so you could just view them as an indication there are 2 sites in the system / this planet's orbit instead of they're angles actually meaning something.
8. I like the idea of this leading us to Sol but I think it would disappoint too many people without the proper permit for that to be the solution to the puzzle.

I need to take some pics myself to get some more conclusive drawings and I need to check out the "pyramid" outside the hexagon for myself. I didn't realize it was there until today.

Questions:

1. Why do group A and B have 3 markings looking like rockets when group E only has one in the triangle (but 3 in total) and the other planet doesn't have any rockets on it?
2. Why is there a second piece of wall at the end of the "stick", it doesn't seem to be able to link with anything?

OK, i had this idea for a bit, but seeing that image of the layout actually north-south oriented, i have to speak up.

With those equidistand markings ond the side, the layout of the ruins looks EXACTLY like a flat representation of a three dimensional plot!
The wall would then be the outline of the axis of the three dimensions.

Example picture:

Spoiler

Example video:

Spoiler

[video=https://youtu.be/Hp6ti0_mhMs?t=78[/video]

 

[Himeno]

this spreadsheet has all the confirmed combos:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...57nTBtDqRan41SZKpppJrmwA3c/edit#gid=208480479

Although I didn't get a result from obelisk E14 when I scanned it earlier using the combination on the spreadsheet.

its change after my report the correct combo is Orb + Relict

 

[Himeno]

the right combo for E14 to get Technology 12 is Orb + Relict and not Orb + totem.
it is change in the spreadshet now

 

[wi|d_dog]

I've had a look at 2 of the maps we have available and decided to see if I could make any sense of the markings. I decided to rotate the image at some point as was suggested here to match geographical north (haven't confirmed this personally yet). Here are some scribbles:

http://imgur.com/a/cbkTO

1. So in both maps I was able to draw lines from the 2 groups at G which converge at the rocket shaped marking at A.
2. In the colored map I was able to draw a line from there over one of the beacons to the centre of the triangle at B.
3. The "random" pieces of wall inside the hexagon could be pointing places so connecting those I was able to draw two lines through group E, which then led to another piece of wall which directed the line straight through the middle of group D. There things stopped unfortunately. To slightly deviate from an assumption below, this line did originally end at a beacon instead of group D.
4. When connecting the pieces of wall you can draw a line all the way from left to right going through the middle of the planet.

Some assumptions, ideas:

1. Ram Tah has not made any remarks about there being a link between the crash sites and the ruins. He did however mention sites which would suggest there is more than one. The Galnet news refers to him as leading the research at the ruins. This could be just this site or several.
2. I thought it was a great idea to compare the before and after 2.2.03 pictures but I think that will only help if you know the answer. Without the answer it's best to focus on what we have and not confuse things further.
3. The pieces of wall around the edges are there for re-inforcement only (not likely), it's a sun dial (with a cycle that long, not likely), it's a distance measure (most likely, cut out some of the markings that seemed to be at the same angle and got a pretty good match)
4. The piece of wall along the left side is at a different angle on purpose (hopefully, as it points to the middle of group A in the greyscale map)
5. Group C could be just a picture of a different kind of spaceship, or it could be a course change (270 degrees to 30 degrees), or it could be coordinates (with some goodwill the left group is 8 x 4 with one piece missing would make 7 x 4 and 1 x 3, makes 31)
6. It's hard to think of the "pyramids" as anything other than pointers/markers so perhaps the bottom one shows the start point for navigation?
7. Group G is also following the lines of the hill they are on so you could just view them as an indication there are 2 sites in the system / this planet's orbit instead of they're angles actually meaning something.
8. I like the idea of this leading us to Sol but I think it would disappoint too many people without the proper permit for that to be the solution to the puzzle.

I need to take some pics myself to get some more conclusive drawings and I need to check out the "pyramid" outside the hexagon for myself. I didn't realize it was there until today.

Questions:

1. Why do group A and B have 3 markings looking like rockets when group E only has one in the triangle (but 3 in total) and the other planet doesn't have any rockets on it?
2. Why is there a second piece of wall at the end of the "stick", it doesn't seem to be able to link with anything?

Ok, my previous post went into moderation due to me being a new user and it containing links...

What i wanted to say is that, in the north-south orientation, the walls of the ruins makes it look exactly like a flat representation of a three dimensional graph.
The walls and equidistance markings would then make up the outlying three dimensional axis.

 

[Midor Parit]

An Hypothesis of mine is that the circles are stars and the line like structure below the bigger circle is some kind of pointer. With that it could be resonable that the size of the circles are relative to the size of the stars. So Synuefe PJ-D B46-6 could be a candidate for the smaller circle, while Synuefe XR-H D11-102 could be a candidate for the bigger circle. With this in mind the star Synuefe PJ-D B46-0 would be in the direction of the line.
Interestingly by a rule-of-thumb estimation the angle between the plane of the actual star and the "destination" star could be the same as the triangle where the G-Group Obelisks are positioned. This remindes me somehow on spherical coordinates, not exactly of course because the distance would be missing, but maybe thats coded somehow (count or position of obelisks, or relation of something).
So its just some thoughts that where going through my mind and i just want to give my thinking to others, maybe it could help .
and sry if this already were mentioned earlier, but i didn't read all almost 1000 Pages and i also tried search before

greetings

 

[MortifiedPotato]

I'm back in Meene but I can't see a way to hand in data.

Then you're not at the station where you first got the mission.

 

[cascadia]

An Hypothesis of mine is that the circles are stars and the line like structure below the bigger circle is some kind of pointer. With that it could be resonable that the size of the circles are relative to the size of the stars. So Synuefe PJ-D B46-6 could be a candidate for the smaller circle, while Synuefe XR-H D11-102 could be a candidate for the bigger circle. With this in mind the star Synuefe PJ-D B46-0 would be in the direction of the line.
Interestingly by a rule-of-thumb estimation the angle between the plane of the actual star and the "destination" star could be the same as the triangle where the G-Group Obelisks are positioned. This remindes me somehow on spherical coordinates, not exactly of course because the distance would be missing, but maybe thats coded somehow (count or position of obelisks, or relation of something).
So its just some thoughts that where going through my mind and i just want to give my thinking to others, maybe it could help .
and sry if this already were mentioned earlier, but i didn't read all almost 1000 Pages and i also tried search before

greetings

last i checked the rule of thumb was used to decide how big a stick you could use to beat you wife....