Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[JezH146]

Have any earth like planets been found in systems near to the ancient ruins? I mean, given that Ram has said they share many humanoid things with us, is it too much of a leap to presume that this isnt their home planet... and that the home planet would be an earthlike?

I guess it could be anywhere in reality, but maybe an earthlike would be at the centre of whatever geometric pattern of sites?

Dumb question, but will take a look around...

 

[programad]

Maybe we haven't discovered the site we were meant to discover first yet.

This sentence is probably correct. But I think the post-beta (pre 2.2.03) adjustments were exactly to repurpose the ruins, adapting it to be the first one found.

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Culture 12

This is truely fascinating data commander, as an engineer myself I have to admit I'm highly curious about the Guardians technology. It seems that the guardians had a particular fascination with geometric shapes, which they used to illustrate connections between themselves and the world around them. This predilection manifested itself in their technology as well - specifically their monolith network. With this data and the help of the galactic community we've partially mapped the monolith network, which formed the backbone of their communications technology, and discovered that they too are arranged in geometric patterns. Whilst this does not give us full access to the network, I believe it is the first step to unlocking the entire system and maybe more

Guys, english is not my native language. Can someone help me to interpret the word "system" here? Is he talking about the communication system or the planetary system?

 

[Cmdr Frawd Digger]

I am not even convinced that the located ruins include a hint to the location of the other sites at all.

After several months of effort and following many leads taken from the ruins design, I must say I agree with you.

Frawd

 

[mclester]

Thought I'd find some ruins, instead I found a receiver network

Spoiler

http://imgur.com/6aTor2h

must be home world!

 

[TheFallenOne]

Guys, english is not my native language. Can someone help me to interpret the word "system" here? Is he talking about the communication system or the planetary system?

The communication system it seems.

 

[Leo3ABP]

But what makes you think that we could find out the current ruins location by any other means yet? Maybe we haven't discovered the site we were meant to discover first yet. And
the site which we were supposed to discover first, and which would probably contain Biology, History etc. data ranging from 1-6 we would find information in those data scans leading us
to the current ancient sites. So instead of trying to find out how we could have come up with the current site naturally, we should check how we should have come up with ANY site or basically
the first site, as this one doesn't seem to be the first site.

Ok, lets start from the beginning.
We know how ruins were found, and that this is very likely might have been not intended way for them being found, so lets for a moment leave it be. We need to answer following questions:

How did we encountered Ram Tah and his mission? Was there any precursor for that, or was it by stumbling accident?
Unless there were no clue that led to Ram Tah, and since he does not tell us ruin coordinates in his mission, it can be logical to assume that the first ruins we were supposed to find (not the one we currently have) would also have a pointer to Ram Tah
and his mission. In that case, the first ruins will be the keys, since they theoretically supposed to lead us to the next clues. So it is very likely that we missing something important by doing this whole ruin mystery in a wrong order, thus we stuck. Maybe we should stop for a second, dismiss all we have learned so far and try starting from scratch, figuring out where it all begins? I refuse to believe that the only clue to system with ruins have been some unrelated video on the internet, that just does not seem like a good game design to me. And then ruins on the ground were found pretty much by a sheer luck, considering how low is drawing distance, whitch further ads to a point that they were found not the way they were supposed to, and we might be missing something important.

 

[programad]

Thought I'd find some ruins, instead I found a receiver network

Spoiler

http://imgur.com/6aTor2h

must be home world!

I didn't get it.

Can you elaborate?

 

[mclester]

I've decoded the ruins and believe I've found the guardian's home world

 

[Nagual]

Ok, lets start from the beginning.
We know how ruins were found, and that this is very likely might have been not intended way for them being found, so lets for a moment leave it be. We need to answer following questions:

How did we encountered Ram Tah and his mission? Was there any precursor for that, or was it by stumbling accident?

Before Christmas there was an erroneous Galnet article about his mission. Basically it should have came out when 2.2.03 became live and not before.

 

[mclester]

The craters, one of which is shown, sing the same tune the relics do

 

[zorbaq]

Sigh, I give up.

Brains bigger than ours decoded the listening post ciphers, UA/UP messages, the nonograms and recently the brainfcuk thingie in relatively short time. I'm sure they had a go at this puzzle as well. The diverse player base is kind of a supercomputer - it chews problems very fast. My point is, if it was solvable - we'd be done with it already. We're missing an important piece of this riddle and I'm sure the author of this conundrum cackles maniacally watching us running in circles, throwing our wild ideas at it. Unless we're going to be spoon-fed the missing clue - or a miracle happens and someone stumbles upon one of the other sites - we won't be getting anywhere anytime soon.

 

[Leo3ABP]

This sentence is probably correct. But I think the post-beta (pre 2.2.03) adjustments were exactly to repurpose the ruins, adapting it to be the first one found.

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Guys, english is not my native language. Can someone help me to interpret the word "system" here? Is he talking about the communication system or the planetary system?

that's an interesting observation. "Unlocking the entire system and maybe more", if there is a (network) system to unlock, how would you unlock more of it if you already unlocked an entire system? System is a closed limited system (pardon the pun) of something governed by certain (strict) rules, I don't think it will be correct to say that you can unlock more of it if entire system is already unlocked. Maybe this s a hint that all ruins are in synuefe system we currently are, and if we unlock it, maybe there will be more leads to other systems, using word system as in "star system" rather than in a meaning of network.

 

[Thatchinho]

This sentence is probably correct. But I think the post-beta (pre 2.2.03) adjustments were exactly to repurpose the ruins, adapting it to be the first one found.

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Guys, english is not my native language. Can someone help me to interpret the word "system" here? Is he talking about the communication system or the planetary system?

It means the entire monolith network (so the communication system).

 

[Leo3ABP]

I've decoded the ruins and believe I've found the guardian's home world

and, would you bother to share your finding with us?

 

[Factabulous]

I checked the Barnards Loop region as well, even including COL 70 systems and the witch head nebula plus about 500 LY up and down the galactic plane.
I used map overlays for system alignment, population filters, system security etc. and there is 100% no populated system the map filter finds. So either
the CMDR was lying, experienced a visual bug, it was only visible to him for some reason or the galaxy map filters don't pick it up, but it would say populated
when you hover the mouse over it. But manually trying to find it by checking every system is impossible, since there would be hundreds of thousands of systems to check,
if you only know "somewhere around Barnards Loop". It would be really interesting if the CMDR who claimed to have seen one would come forward and tell us the name of that system.
It's probably not related to the ancient ruins thing, but we might discover something other interesting there.

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But what makes you think that we could find out the current ruins location by any other means yet? Maybe we haven't discovered the site we were meant to discover first yet. And
the site which we were supposed to discover first, and which would probably contain Biology, History etc. data ranging from 1-6 we would find information in those data scans leading us
to the current ancient sites. So instead of trying to find out how we could have come up with the current site naturally, we should check how we should have come up with ANY site or basically
the first site, as this one doesn't seem to be the first site.

This post for more info, hopefully he'll be back online later, though I'm not convinced it's where he says

 

[morph113]

Ok, lets start from the beginning.
We know how ruins were found, and that this is very likely might have been not intended way for them being found, so lets for a moment leave it be. We need to answer following questions:

How did we encountered Ram Tah and his mission? Was there any precursor for that, or was it by stumbling accident?
Unless there were no clue that led to Ram Tah, and since he does not tell us ruin coordinates in his mission, it can be logical to assume that the first ruins we were supposed to find (not the one we currently have) would also have a pointer to Ram Tah
and his mission. In that case, the first ruins will be the keys, since they theoretically supposed to lead us to the next clues. So it is very likely that we missing something important by doing this whole ruin mystery in a wrong order, thus we stuck. Maybe we should stop for a second, dismiss all we have learned so far and try starting from scratch, figuring out where it all begins? I refuse to believe that the only clue to system with ruins have been some unrelated video on the internet, that just does not seem like a good game design to me. And then ruins on the ground were found pretty much by a sheer luck, considering how low is drawing distance, whitch further ads to a point that they were found not the way they were supposed to, and we might be missing something important.

Yes this is exactly what I am saying, only that the current ancient ruins might not be the ones intended to be found first. So instead of concentrating on how we could have found the current ruins without the trailer. Let's focus on how we could have found ANY ruins or the first (intended) ruins site via ingame information.

But it could also be as someone else mentioned, that initially the current ancient site was NOT supposed to be the first one to be found, but since they changed the site after the patch, they may have altered it to be the first one so that we have it harder finding the others instead of already knowing a location we weren't supposed to know through clever star triangulation via the trailer.

But finding out how we were supposed to find the first ancient site is probably the key to find the others.

 

[hitchhiker54]

Well, the devs gave us Thoth 1a. It might have been just an easter egg to go with the BGS talk, there may be more. I'm a little skeptical on the tenous link between 419 items of text and a novel page 419 btu it did lead to a link to the old jaques puzzle - which leads me to wonder if the devs are throwing us a more oblique sort of bone. If that crash site isn't new, and they just sent us to it then there may be more of those listening posts to find and lead us to other ruin sites.

 

[Leo3ABP]

Well, the devs gave us Thoth 1a. It might have been just an easter egg to go with the BGS talk, there may be more. I'm a little skeptical on the tenous link between 419 items of text and a novel page 419 btu it did lead to a link to the old jaques puzzle - which leads me to wonder if the devs are throwing us a more oblique sort of bone. If that crash site isn't new, and they just sent us to it then there may be more of those listening posts to find and lead us to other ruin sites.

Except... we dont have a clue where those posts might be....

btw, what is a BGS? I keep reading aobut it since that Thoth 1 clue has been given, but I dont get it. Some old ED joke? British Geological Society?

 

[hitchhiker54]

BackGround Simulation

 

[CrunchyBaton955]

Except... we dont have a clue where those posts might be....

btw, what is a BGS? I keep reading aobut it since that Thoth 1 clue has been given, but I dont get it. Some old ED joke? British Geological Society?

BGS is the Background Simulation