Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Since we will hopefully soon get the Alpha or Gamma site from the CG, I applied the item combo prediction algorithm on those as well. There is no guarantee that it will be correct, but I think it will be a good starting point.

Here is the current version, with corrections and comments for mismatches:

http://i.imgur.com/NMB1j9a.png

Predictions: that's what science is all about :)

Good job CMDR!

Now we need the ruins...............
 
Ah yes, I had understood. The point I was making (which I might not have expressed particularly clearly) is that I think there's grounds for the possibility of there being much more than just 2 or 3 more sites. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there definitely are more sites I'm just saying there's reasons I've seen, other than the scan numbers, to indicate there might be.

I'm also not saying you're wrong about all the scans being accessible in solo! - I'm actually still actively trying to unlock the extra scans in the current site in solo. :) Last night I tried blowing the shielding bits off from around the relics but leaving the relics in place to see if that had any effect. Nada. I agree that if it's possible to unlock the other scans in solo then it must relate to something players are doing in open/pg, but I can't really think of anything which could be simulated in solo so am basically trying anything else that comes to mind.

Just discussing possibilities really. Hope it didn't come over in a negative way. :)

No, no problem friend. It seems we are of similar minds & just words are getting in the way.
Intellectually I would like to see the proper solution to this in solo mode, but pragmatically I am thinking we now have all 36 messages possible from this site & maybe we should concentrate energies on finding the other two sites. I am also tired since I woke at 4 am, had to walk the dog twice, attend my granddaughter's birthday party, read through I don't know how many posts in this & the FR thread, and we don't seem to get any further. So no in-game time for me today.
I am also torn since I've spent the last two weeks grinding skimmer missions with the intention of (a) getting to a billionaire and (b)getting an Imp Cutter. I've done the first & am now an Earl with Empire so only this and another rank to grind through to buy a Cutter, but having second thoughts that an explorer anaconda might be more suited to my tastes. Think I probably need a break, but too interested in the mysteries to do that.
Need sleep....
 
Anyone else getting a huge amount of Adjudication Server discos at the ruins site? I feel like I'm spending more time loading back in then scanning.
 
Anyone else getting a huge amount of Adjudication Server discos at the ruins site? I feel like I'm spending more time loading back in then scanning.

Yeah, kept getting them in Mobius PG, so went into another PG & with only 4 of us at the ruins I still got a couple. So Iv knocked it on the head until tomoro
 
Predicting here and now there are up to 10 ruin sites scattered around, and only ram tah will give clues out on progressive CGs. Successive CGs

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Yeah, kept getting them in Mobius PG, so went into another PG & with only 4 of us at the ruins I still got a couple. So Iv knocked it on the head until tomoro

Confirming Doc mobius is very jumpy even from statue of liberty nebula
 
Yes - PLEASE FD. Even just one lat, long point we can enter as a bookmark!



We have advanced surface scanners that can detect metal through solid rock, but we still cannot find large structures like the ruins, at least FD, give us a surface scanner that will highlight an area on the planet surface.
 
Hopefully we will just get another hint from Ram Tah to help us locate the other sites.

it would be the quickest way forward.

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We have advanced surface scanners that can detect metal through solid rock, but we still cannot find large structures like the ruins, at least FD, give us a surface scanner that will highlight an area on the planet surface.

great idea, or even the ability to bookmark POIs
 
it would be the quickest way forward.

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great idea, or even the ability to bookmark POIs

Yep, I think that's all we really need, like the discovery scanner, except it picks up surface structures,
it's range dependent on what grade it is. 3A 4A, 5A e.c.t

5A surface scanner could ping to a range of something like 10 000 square meters.
tbh.. I'm surprised there isn't something like it in the game already.
idk.. maybe FD are concerned it would make things too easy,
but not having some kind of surface scanner available for your ship at all, isn't very realistic.
 
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Yep, I think that's all we really need, like the discovery scanner, except it picks up surface structures,
it's range dependent on what grade it is. 3A 4A, 5A e.c.t

5A surface scanner could ping to a range of something like 10 000 square meters.
tbh.. I'm surprised there isn't something like it in the game already.
idk.. maybe FD are concerned it would make things to easy,
but not having some kind of surface scanner available for your ship at all, isn't very realistic.

I would argue that we already have a piece of equipment that should fill this role in the Detailed Surface Scanner, which considering the amount of detail we get out of a planet's surface map is a fairly ironic name.
 
Are you inferring that the comms network is in the shape of an icosohedron? 20 faces so how many vertices?

No, I'm not really inferring anything from the icosahedron as yet. It could be a football for all I know! :) It would be 12 vertices. When I'm searching for comms network candidate systems I'm looking for shapes that tesselate in 2D at the moment.

(Been awake sine 4am, getting a little tired).

Ouch. That's a painfully early start on a Saturday!


That is a lot more ruin sites to find-we would definitely need some good clues where to look (and a decent surface scanner!), but I suspect there are only 2 or 3 more to find and we should be able to get 36 messages from the one we do have in solo mode.

Edit: since we do have the full 36 message set from this site then we should concentrate on finding the clues to the other two sites.

Yeah, it would be a lot of sites. It would actually make the search I've been doing easier though. I've been looking for 2 systems which would form key shapes (parts of 2d tessellating shapes). The obvious thing to look for is two systems that form an equilateral triangle with the ruins. But there is just waaaaay too many. If on the other hand it's a geometric pattern that needs to be found, the data search is a bit more complicated, but it would cut down the list of candidate system to something manageable.

In a way though, both versions are completely compatible. If there is a wider set of sites/nodes than just 3, there's nothing to say that any of the other sites would have scannable obelisks.
 
QUOTE=QorbeQ;5045209]I don't care if it's related to the ruins or not, that stuff is cool - nice find :)[/QUOTE]

I looked at the ruins map again... if you focus on the marker like structures that line the walls that make the hexagonal shape I counted 26 of them... that matches up with the 26 letters of the Roman alphabet... that are used in that Pentagon shape diagram to form a visual glyph of a word. The overall shape of the ruins looks like a Pentagon. I really think I could be on to something here.
 
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I would argue that we already have a piece of equipment that should fill this role in the Detailed Surface Scanner, which considering the amount of detail we get out of a planet's surface map is a fairly ironic name.

Yeah, that's a fair point, but then it probably would be too easy, to just scan the entire planet in one go and it picks out the poi for you.
I think we need a scanner that specifically works with the radar when we're close to the ground.

Near the surface, blast out a honk of the surface radar scanner and it picks out anything within a certain radius.
 
What they really need to do is have another tool that is used to check the surface of planets for anomalies while in super cruise. It would required orbiting a planet while you scan to look for objects of interest. This would also require you to be able to place land markers/beacons on the planet. It would need to be able to discern any odd energy sources or anomaly in surface materials and or shapes. That way it could tell you if there is a structure of some kind on the planet.

The problem is the sites are so tiny and that rendering detail of ground structures from over 50km away.
 
Yeah, that's a fair point, but then it probably would be too easy, to just scan the entire planet in one go and it picks out the poi for you.
I think we need a scanner that specifically works with the radar when we're close to the ground.

Near the surface, blast out a honk of the surface radar scanner and it picks out anything within a certain radius.

perhaps something with a 5-10km above the surface deployability like a second blue POI scanner level but as something else
 
What they really need to do is have another tool that is used to check the surface of planets for anomalies while in super cruise. It would required orbiting a planet while you scan to look for objects of interest. This would also require you to be able to place land markers/beacons on the planet. It would need to be able to discern any odd energy sources or anomaly in surface materials and or shapes. That way it could tell you if there is a structure of some kind on the planet.

The problem is the sites are so tiny and that rendering detail of ground structures from over 50km away.

It could do with some reworking. Make ground structure give off a slight but inaccurate ping from orbit

Im going to use no mans sky as an example, and this would fit with a more diverse procedural system as frontier maintain but also move away from hand placed content. Filling the content gap im not saying go as far as NMS but somewhere reasonable in between a ping scanner could put up search areas of a few hundred km across which could then be searched by the player

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Yeah, that's a good shout. I hope it goes down this route rather than the exact locations just being handed to us on a platter.

it allows frontier to spread the timing of progress out to so we dont solve it to soon
 
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