Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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You will need to explain how you came to this conclusion. My observations (obtaining different patterns at the same obelisk with the same artefacts in my hold) have lead me to believe that there is no correlation at all (or it is broken).

I haven't noticed a correlation between the obelisks and the data obtained, but Ram Tah does mention something like "in this Beta data blah blah..." at least once so I think there is supposed to be a correlation.
 
You will need to explain how you came to this conclusion. My observations (obtaining different patterns at the same obelisk with the same artefacts in my hold) have lead me to believe that there is no correlation at all (or it is broken).

Whenever you get a correct data-package from a scan, an object as mentioned above, is involved. I can confirm this too. The additional data patterns however, seem to be completely random though.
 
Interesting - how can I find which systems are in the nebula? I don't see anything in the Galaxy / System view (other than the background image for the nebula in the galaxy view), and nothing in edsm, but since you mention 50k systems I guess you have a better source - pls share. That last scan got me in closer to elite in exploration, so I'm up for a challenge (though probably not 50k solo :)!)

my bad it was the messier sector behind it i was thinking of. did u visit each of the systems specifically or just comb galmap looking for medium security. Was under the understanding the galmap showed no information but the base itself was a ground based one, if you have visited each specific one, perhaps the dev dav comment was incorrect and nothing exists out there. So yeah i retract the 50000 comment, but the messier sector behind it probably does have thousands of systems to scan if that is what they meant.


Perhaps the base wont show until someone searches the planet similiar to the alien ruins or unregistered comms beacons sites. Ill leave you to youre search.

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" whit the help of other like minded pilots I hope to use the various data types to unlock the Guardians monolith network and use it to find other sites " quote from RAM TAH

monolith network, NOT beacon ( data network = linked each other to something ) are LOCKED = more than 13/36 data ?
"use it to find other sites" . the clue maybe is inside one of data we miss

the ruins site is like a clock that match with coordinates system who use hour, minutes and second. It could be very fun to have all pilots waiting for holly alignment !! and watch all monolith unlocked.

I very like the idea of point of view( eye) from top pyramid point of the site and beacon gives alignment. We need just to know which planet/star ruins make reference and this clue is :
1 -in the sky view from ruin at exact clock
2 -in the data we miss


About clock, all players in the world have the same InGame time ?

which means the ruins probably arent a direct map to nearby ruins *but that reveleation might really upset all those in the community who have put hours in* so ram tah CG ends, he puts out something about the monolith network (more clues or something different) and then in turn reveals the next ruins site (which means we wait for Fdev disclosure instead)
 
I agree. I scanned two obelisks and the game crashed. On restart I was in exactly the same position so thought "Why Not scan again" it then returned a different result from before. Both failed scans, just different A, B, D, E, G results. So I am guessing this result is just random.
I think it is not random and have some purposse. And also actually a key for solving this puzle. There is only one little problem...

IT IS F###### BROKEN AGAIN. ALWAYS. Every F###### time.

Can you actually even remember a moment than it was not exactly that case? Me - not.
 
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my bad it was the messier sector behind it i was thinking of. did u visit each of the systems specifically or just comb galmap looking for medium security. Was under the understanding the galmap showed no information but the base itself was a ground based one, if you have visited each specific one, perhaps the dev dav comment was incorrect and nothing exists out there. So yeah i retract the 50000 comment, but the messier sector behind it probably does have thousands of systems to scan if that is what they meant.


Perhaps the base wont show until someone searches the planet similiar to the alien ruins or unregistered comms beacons sites. Ill leave you to youre search.

Thanks! Thought I was missing a trick. I visited each system in my ship, including check of 'local' systems with permit blocks, then used the galaxy map to scan though all the systems with the 'not visited' option on so I could double check for missed systems. And I compared my route on EDSM with the EDSM system list, so I think the system is 'near' barnard's loop, rather than in it. Or it's in the sector and called something else :)
 
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Thanks! Thought I was missing a trick. I visited each system in my ship, including check of 'local' systems with permit blocks, then used the galaxy map to scan though all the systems with the 'not visited' option on so I could double check for missed systems. And I compared my route on EDSM with the EDSM system list, so I think the system is 'near' barnard's loop, rather than in it. Or it's in the sector and called something else :)
A few days ago i visited about 30 barnard loop sectors and didnt find anything either. It could be along the border regions or even permit locked currently , but until something is located, clues are popped up or Fdev opens up col 70 sector ( it could be in horsehead to which is also permit locked)
 
The glyphs on the obelisk seem to be:
[neutron/white dwarf] [planet]
[planet] [moon]
[ringed star] [?]

The obvious answer is that this is a system diagram, but it doesn't seem to be precise enough to actually single out a system :(. It's also unclear whether the guardians were showing "what is in the sky above their planet" or "what is in the system". So there may be another planet in the system (which the moon orbits).

The final/first glyph is a total mystery - it could be an image of the 5 bodies, and an indication that the "middle planet" is the point of interest. Or it could be some kind of asteroid belt (or some hint as to where the system can be found?)
 
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HOpe creazy Ram tah have a decent server for stock 2.000.000 ton of data !!!! and 20years for analyse this !!!! this CG is a joke

973t, 1O% best....
 
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HOpe creazy Ram tah have a decent server for stock 2.000.000 ton of data !!!! and 20years for analyse this !!!! this CG is a joke

973t, 1O% best....

Meat grinder.

The glyphs on the obelisk seem to be:
[neutron/white dwarf] [planet]
[planet] [moon]
[ringed star] [?]

The obvious answer is that this is a system diagram, but it doesn't seem to be precise enough to actually single out a system :(. It's also unclear whether the guardians were showing "what is in the sky above their planet" or "what is in the system". So there may be another planet in the system (which the moon orbits).

The final/first glyph is a total mystery - it could be an image of the 5 bodies, and an indication that the "middle planet" is the point of interest. Or it could be some kind of asteroid belt (or some hint as to where the system can be found?)

Which glyphs on which obelisk? The animated triangles on the codices? Or the static triangles on the sides of the pillars (with relics)? And how did you come to this conclusion?
 
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between 2 grinding data, im thinking about:

if this CG was made for we focus on the type of data we have for 1 scan ( alpha,delta....) AND the number of each data we have for a scan. ?

i ll check this out

edit: check, come by 3 by type of data
 
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Yes Barnard's Loop is looking rather nice at the moment. Hopefully if it's rising in a few hours it will epic.
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Which glyphs on which obelisk? The animated triangles on the codices? Or the static triangles on the sides of the pillars (with relics)? And how did you come to this conclusion?

The animated triangles - we've been told they were pictoral, and the only glyph we know was "as seen from their homeplanet". The thing to realise is that all of the glyphs on the obelisk are "as seen from their homeplanet".

https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/

- the animated top-left glyph looks (very much) like the emissions they added in 2.2 for white dwarf/neutron stars. (a "curvy" line that extends to the end, where it meets all the other emissions in a 'swirl of light').

This video kindof shows the effect, you can see it in the animated glyph if you look for it...
https://youtu.be/SWHEKzOFhC0?t=671

- top right/middle left glyphs are dark triangles on a white background, those could be planets. (if stars are bright, then logically planets "aren't").

- middle/right is the 'waxing/waning moon glyph' as described in the text. (the light slowly creeps across the moon).

- bottom/left is a bright ring around a ball of a light. Logically, a star with a ring.

- bottom/right is 2 'spinning' objects (top/bottom) with 3 flashing objects on the right. (I *really* don't understand this one).
 
On the other sites, did anyone follow this line of thinking?

Given the Guardians fascination with geometric shapes (see Culture 12) and the predominance of tetrahedrons/triangles at the site, could the other ruins be here :

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For everybody grinding the ruins right now, here is an order that only requires the swapping of 1 item per trip back to the ship:

Using this map: http://i.imgur.com/pugVSp4.jpg (There is one error: Tech 10 is OrUr)

Getting all 13 default scans:

Park ship in the south: (9 million)
OrUr for Tech10
OrTa x3 for Lang12, Lang8, Tech1
TaRe for Lang14
UrRe for Bio7
UrCa for Bio9
CaTo for History15
CaTa for History11

Park ship in the north: (4 million)
CaUr x2 for History10, History8
CaOr for History12
CaRe for History14
 
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The CG is near 75% done already, may be over by the end of the day. Hopefully they drop a clue upon completion.
 
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I am not convinced about all this.
I have been reading and following this thread since page 800+ and I have seen somethings that sound right. But I'm not convinced, I think everyone is being too generous, insisting how cleaver the Frontier team are being. The Obelisks are data points, no idea what the Relics, Caskets, Orbs, Tablets, Totems and Urns purpose is other than to decypher he obelisks and they seem randomly placed, in an area with structures we don't even interact with. The land is a unique shape that is for sure. But why does it have to be a sign to the next system? Could it not just be the decayed ruins of a structure, once designed and equipped for housing life on a barren planet? Not actually a solar system or map? Instead, why couldn't this just be a site of 3 or more that was meant to be found...later and not when it was found?
If this is indeed a puzzle designed with all sorts of Mathematical, Geometrical and Exceptionally clever guides to lead us to another planet, then that rules out 95% of ED players, including myself, as we could never work it out solo.
Just a thought but I am enjoying the theory. I just think some will be let down if this is not as clever as they think.
CMDR Vox-Lee
 
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I am not convinced about all this.
I have been reading and following this thread since page 800+ and I have seen somethings that sound right. But I'm not convinced, I think everyone is being too generous, insisting how cleaver the Frontier team are being. The Obelisks are data points, no idea what the Relics, Caskets, Orbs, Tablets, Totems and Urns purpose is other than to decypher he obelisks and they seem randomly placed, in an area with structures we don't even interact with. The land is a unique shape that is for sure. But why does it have to be a sign to the next system? Could it not just be the decayed ruins of a structure, once designed and equipped for housing life on a barren planet? Not actually a solar system or map? Instead, why couldn't this just be a site of 3 or more that was meant to be found...later and not when it was found?
If this is indeed a puzzle designed with all sorts of Mathematical, Geometrical and Exceptionally clever guides to lead us to another planet, then that rules out 95% of ED players, including myself, as we could never work it out solo.
Just a thought but I am enjoying the theory. I just think some will be let down if this is not as clever as they think.
CMDR Vox-Lee

I am actually almost convinced by now that there is nothing to solve. At least nothing which leads us to other ancient sites. They will just feed us the locations or strong hints of the other sites after the CG is finished and nobody will ever know if there really was a puzzle. They either did the puzzle way too abstract that nobody can possibly understand it or there simply is no puzzle. Finding the combinations to get data scans could be all there is.
 
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