Imperial dedicated combat ships?

[bladebss]

So... im under the impression that bo more ships will be put in the game any time soon unless they enable new game play.

However, during 2.2.03 many ships got extra militery slots. The feds got quite a good deal out of this as they have a good spread of combat orientated ships. But the imperials got the ieagle and the icutter.

The icutter much like the corvette and conda i can see how they are in this category. But eather there are very few military ships in the empire. The ieagle... and cutter.

Seems a bit odd that the empire has only 2 combat ship's

The clipper and courier aparently are not combat but multi role or other. witch i can kinda see and there names dont imply combat and the clipper has a defensive hard point placement (lends it self to turrets and gimbaled) and weak shields. So.. can the empire have an igunship, iassalt ship or idrop ship or some thing.

Now mabe the empire has great faith in the power of the cutter and ieagle and doesnt see the need for anything else, what with all the basking the enemy will be doing.

So what do people think? Empire just dont do combat like the feds and so there ships reflect this? Militery slots arnt needed for empire quasi militery ships so didnt get them?

A new ship...

Whats the deal

 

[goemon]

the clipper has 8 optional internals, while the FAS has 6 + 2 military slots. you are totally free to equip modul reinfordement or HRP in your clipper optional internals.

the courier has 6 optional internals - compare it to an eagle (they more or less ave the same size) - again, you are free to fit HRP/MRP into those internals.

 

[bladebss]

I get what you mean but if a wing of dropship, assalt ship, gunship and corvette was to fight a wing with ieagle, courier, clipper and cutter.. who do you think would win?

Thes feds have much more combat orientated ships this leads me to think the empire just arnt combat focused and its a lor thing. They have too much decorum.

 

[goemon]

I get what you mean but if a wing of dropship, assalt ship, gunship and corvette was to fight a wing with ieagle, courier, clipper and cutter.. who do you think would win?

the fed ships wouldn't be able to catch any of the imperial ships for sure.

not bad for a smaller power like the empire.

concerning the lore - i'm not fim on that, but in my understadning the empire is more on diplomacy and economicalwars, while the federation is more of a military power.

 

[TheSisko]

the fed ships wouldn't be able to catch any of the imperial ships for sure.

not bad for a smaller power like the empire.

concerning the lore - i'm not fim on that, but in my understadning the empire is more on diplomacy and economicalwars, while the federation is more of a military power.

Yep. Empire projects 'soft' power through trade and economical might. I don't think its an accident that the Empire has the best trade ship in the game right now, plus the best trade routes, for me at least, were found in Imperial space. Empire relies on speed and shields in combat, just look at the Courier - for its size its got great shields, with tissue for hull.

Federation is all about brute force military power, and their ships reflect that. Shields? Who needs them? Its all about the hull.

 

[Quineloe]

The courier is the best combat ship at its price range. It's also already well stocked on internals.

 

[Surprised Brony]

Yep. Empire projects 'soft' power through trade and economical might. I don't think its an accident that the Empire has the best trade ship in the game right now, plus the best trade routes, for me at least, were found in Imperial space. Empire relies on speed and shields in combat, just look at the Courier - for its size its got great shields, with tissue for hull.

Federation is all about brute force military power, and their ships reflect that. Shields? Who needs them? Its all about the hull.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Have some rep. Not just for the post, but also because of your username.

If the Empire ever did get a combat ship, it would be a response to a threat. Unless they clash with the Federation or the aliens turn hostile, I don't think there's a practical need for them to commission one. I would appreciate a Gutamaya combat vessel, though.

 

[Anon Sin]

The Federation build their ships out of fear (of the Empire),the Empire fear looking like trash collectors and they have the Death Star. All hail the Emperor!

 

[JRok]

The courier is the best combat ship at its price range. It's also already well stocked on internals.

I agree... it's almost as maneuverable as the DBS yet faster with enhanced thrusters... good shields... one of my RES favorites with a couple of multi's and a plasma.

 

[Hooplah]

The Empire ships are designed in Italy...The Feds are designed in Detroit. On those rare days when a Fed takes out my Empire ship at least I go out with style!

 

[aardappelianen]

Lol i have screenshots of an ieagle and courier spawned into each other on a planet surface and they should just release that as is omg its just perfect make it a 3medium 2small weapon big brother to the courier at 75% courier speed and a bit more agility at 85 tons base hull(ieagle 50+courier35)
With magnificent shields and a hull made from the power of believing

 

[WR3ND]

The courier is the best combat ship at its price range. It's also already well stocked on internals.

3rded. Some people legitimately even prefer it over the Vulture.

Personally, I refuse to rank up in either navy, or whatever you want to call it, and I still manage well enough, so I never really understand what the big deal is when I hear people from either side complaining about not getting what they want.

 

[Hooplah]

3rded. Some people legitimately even prefer it over the Vulture.

Personally, I refuse to rank up in either navy, or whatever you want to call it, and I still manage well enough, so I never really understand what the big deal is when I hear people from either side complaining about not getting what they want.

Ranking up has A LOT of advantages but you decide. Those complaining about not getting what they want have already imposed limitations on their play style versus not actually checking out the available opportunities.

 

[WR3ND]

Ranking up has A LOT of advantages but you decide. Those complaining about not getting what they want have already imposed limitations on their play style versus not actually checking out the available opportunities.

I find this game to be very easy. The less silly advantages through frivolous Power ranking, the better. To each their own though. I certainly won't hold it against someone for wanting to be more effective at playing the game, even though I sometimes find it to be a rather unimmersive style of play. That's getting a bit off topic though.

Presumable people on either "side" permit themselves access to the "neutral" ships. Since I only use "neutral" ships and do well enough for myself, I can only presume either "side" are doing well enough for themselves too.

 

[Monk]

The way I've always seen it is that each super power has different priorities for what they want out of their branded ships. Other needs can be filled in with commonly available ships.

Personally, I'd prefer to see more ships that don't have a navy lock to help represent the diversity that would exist among so many civvies and factions.

 

[WR3ND]

The way I've always seen it is that each super power has different priorities for what they want out of their branded ships. Other needs can be filled in with commonly available ships.

Personally, I'd prefer to see more ships that don't have a navy lock to help represent the diversity that would exist among so many civvies and factions.

Besides of course that the Courier is probably the best bang for the buck combat ship in the game.

But yeah, I get that most of us have more than enough bucks to throw around. To me the OP reads more like: I have too much money and not enough eliteness for my chosen style of play. Yes, an Imperial through and through.

I think the diversity in "neutral" ships already fairly well makes up for what either side feels they might be lacking. I wouldn't mind seeing more ships in the game that aren't locked behind naval ranks though, just for the sake of flavor.

 

[aardappelianen]

Besides of course that the Courier is probably the best bang for the buck combat ship in the game.

But yeah, I get that most of us have more than enough bucks to throw around. To me the OP reads more like: I have too much money and not enough eliteness for my chosen style of play. Yes, an Imperial through and through.

I think the diversity in "neutral" ships already fairly well makes up for what either side feels they might be lacking. I wouldn't mind seeing more ships in the game that aren't locked behind naval ranks though, just for the sake of flavor.

Iove the couriers as well but to fair the game simply does need more ships even if they were npc only utility ships only

I dont like the "stepping stone" mentality and the fact that 90% of every pve player you encounter flies a fdl or a conda (seen 1 vulture and 1 cutter once)
and that ive never seen anything but an aspx outside the bubble

 

[Trafalgar Law]

Personally I'd like to see some more Gutamaya styled ships. The imperial ships have a very distinctive look and the fact that is only three of them (no I don't include the iEagle, sticking nacelles on the basic Eagle just doesn't count) is a bit of a shame.

As for types of ship; I'd like to see at least one dedicated warship, I love the Clipper but it's more of a heavily armed luxury yacht than a fighter and the Cutter is more of a heavily armed trade ship, only the Courier really feels like more of a fighting craft than anything else. I'd also like to see an exploration ship (more exploration ships would be a good thing regardless of manufacturer).

 

[NascentChemist]

I'm all for this if it's part of a general ship expansion.

The game states over and over that Gutamaya/Imperial Navy choose style/speed over combat effectiveness. The Federation went with function-over-form military ships that share a basic design. Wouldn't a fast/stylish/combat-focused Imperial ship be having your cake and eating it too?

 

[Trafalgar Law]

I'm all for this if it's part of a general ship expansion.

The game states over and over that Gutamaya/Imperial Navy choose style/speed over combat effectiveness. The Federation went with function-over-form military ships that share a basic design. Wouldn't a fast/stylish/combat-focused Imperial ship be having your cake and eating it too?

Do you have an actual quote for that?

What it says is that the Courier; epitomises elegance of form while packing a good punch. The Clipper; epitomises elegance of form while delivering speed and agility. Not that they aren't effective in combat.

What I'd like to see are some dedicated single role ships rather than just having multipurpose vessels, all of which are nice ships but don't really make sense as the only ships used produced for the Imperial Navy. Ideally I'd like to see the new ships be rank locked (at similar levels to the fed ones) and remove the rank locks for the Clipper and Courier. Oh and redesign that silly iEagle and give it some proper Gutamaya curves instead of leaving it with an angular hull design like the original.