Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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I understand that. Hence why I said the star has to be of a higher frequency in order to allow the red reflection of light off of leaves and or organic materials possible.

The easiest way to understand it is this. All light can be reflected refracted absorbed or emitted. Only light that is being emitted is moving at the speed of light. Everything else has interacted with atoms/particles of some kind, so now they move slower.

Red light moves slower after it has been reflected or refracted. The only true source of red light traveling at the speed of light has to be emitted from its source as red light. Otherwise it is slower moving. Since almost all sources of natural light in the entirety of our Universe comes from the fusion of materials in a star, then almost all stars output at least some white light. White light is comprised of every wavelength of the color spectrum. It contains light both above infrared and below ultraviolet. This is basic color theory and spectrum analysis we had this in physics class in middle school.

I know exactly what I had said I understand exactly how it works. You just provided me a paper to a link explaining how light interacts with atoms in an object. In order for light to interact with an atom the atom will either absorb all the light or reflect/refract some of the light. Which slows it down and changes the color that our eyes perceive.

Color is not real its the result of how eyes intemperate light waves bouncing off of surfaces. It is the perception of the human mind and a construct we adapted to make us better hunters. I highly doubt anything not of this planet will see anything in the same color or way that human eyes do. They for example may have evolved around a F class star or an A class star. So their eyes are tuned to a different spectrum of visible light. That is assuming that they even have eyes in the traditional sense.

We know the guardians do because the obelisks specifically say the color red. So they have similar eye structure to ours. Which means the will need to be located around an F or A class star at best.

Commander, I am sorry to be rude but you need to re-read your physics textbooks. Red light reflected from vegetation will be because all the other frequencies of the light incident will have been absorbed by that vegetation leaving only the red frequencies. That red light will be travelling at the same speed it had before the reflection-at the speed of light (all frequencies) for that atmospheric mix of gases, which will be slightly less than C but it will be the same for all frequencies of light. Light travels fastest (the physical constant C) in a vacuum, & is slowed down when it enters a denser transparent/translucent medium. Light does not slow down just because it has been reflected!.

However you may be right in your idea that red skinned vs green skinned may give us a clue about the Guardian homeworld. Personally I think their "air" is likely to be ammonia-based (since we know that Thargoids prefer this, & I suspect the Thargoids are either the green-skinned subspecies or their warrior creations), but I don't think that helps us at all in locating their homeworld. Unless we search around all ammonia worlds within say 60 ly of the ruins.

Actually that's not a bad idea as a first search criterion; who is good at EDSM searches? Though that would be restricted to systems that someone has already found & reported to EDSM. HOWEVER that is assuming this ruin site was created by the passengers on one of the 3 Guardian arc ships. This may be, in afterthought, unlikely since we could expect perhaps larger ruins or many more ruins to have been created on this planet since there would have been a very large number of passengers on an arc ship. Therefore this is an outpost, created after the Advent of Guardian FTL travel & we have no way of knowing how far it is from their homeworld. ( n.b. This is assuming FD have been sensible in their logic!)
 
Maybe no puzzles or codes next time, just to change things up. I'm all for mysteries, but everything has been somebody saw something or something happened long ago in some planet conveniently left unnamed.
You know what I'd like? To one log on and get a warning that outer colonies are being attacked by Thargoids. I'd like to be able to go there and watch it happen, maybe even throw some weapons on and help defend humanity. And I don't even like fighting. Something simple and straight forward for once.

It will come, I suspect around the untitled 2.4. However since we appear currently to have zero weapons capability against the alien ships, and zero defences too (has any of the hyperdictions involved pilots with shielded FSD upgrade?) so we need to get chummy with the Guardians or decode all their messages to get access to their technology (this is another reason why I don't think the hyperdictions are by Thargoids).

Edit: for me it is the puzzles that make this game interesting and I would not want to lose them; the graphics are extremely good but it is how they are used to support a storyline and puzzles to solve that make a game outstanding. I am sorry to say that FD haven't got there yet and they seem to ignore what we, the customers, are saying. There is too much grind, too much RNG, too much emphasis on pew pew, and far too little support to the other aspects of gameplay. This is a 400 billion system galaxy, but the exploration tool support is pathetic. This Synuefe ruins puzzle could have been superb but the experience has been ruined by the bugs involved (& I'm only following it secondhand & trying to lend support via this thread!). People have been complaining about the game for the last two years and I can now see why. The bottom line is that the FD plan for a 10 year lifespan for this game will fail if they don't pull their socks up; people will start to give it poor media reviews, and then it will die because better games will come along and they will lose their marketshare. Which would be a huge shame as this has all the makings of being a great game. There is such a thing as bad publicity!
 
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i got new boomarks but it is in the system Synuefe XR-H D11-102 (with the ruin what we knew) and its the moon 4 E.
it is in the bookmark as unexplored and not Synuefe XR-H D11-102 4 E when i use the boomark function

This one? If yes: what do you want to tell us with it? What's to it that we should give it a detailed look?
 
This one? If yes: what do you want to tell us with it? What's to it that we should give it a detailed look?

yes this one.
the entrie in the bookmark is not from me.
when i make a bookmark the name is Synuefe XR-H D11-102 4E and not the name "unexplored".
im searching at the moon at the moment but i dont know after what i should search.

That Bookmark was added by the game, not by himself. This was also reported in the German Forum some Minutes ago.

yes i posted there ^^
 
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It will come, I suspect around the untitled 2.4. However since we appear currently to have zero weapons capability against the alien ships, and zero defences too (has any of the hyperdictions involved pilots with shielded FSD upgrade?) so we need to get chummy with the Guardians or decode all their messages to get access to their technology (this is another reason why I don't think the hyperdictions are by Thargoids).

There is a strong suggestion from some other quarters it is Thargoids, however the biggest doubt for the interdiction vessels being Thargoid for me is their design and shape.

The original Thargoid vessels had a very unique and readily identifiable shape, most if not all other ED ships from the original wire-frame days in the 1980's have stayed true to their game origins shape wise such as the Sidewinder, Cobra, Asp etc.

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The new alien ship has a similarity in that it has 8 petals, but apart from that doesn't look like any Thargoid ship from the past.

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Time will tell, no doubt, but for now I am not convinced they are Thargoid either.
 
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yes this one.
the entrie in the bookmark is not from me.
when i make a bookmark the name is Synuefe XR-H D11-102 4E and not the name "unexplored".
im searching at the moon at the moment but i dont know after what i should search.

I just checked: I didn't get any new bookmark (was in the top50% in the respective CG)
 
It was an enjoyable read, just like a good book I couldn't put it down. Admittedly I read this thread first and once I'd finished that I started from scratch, to get all the background information.

Welcome to the insanity club!
What Riz forgot to mention is that the badge you get is a sticky. You place it on your forehead. It says
"Bang wall here"
:D
 
There is a strong suggestion from some other quarters it is Thargoids, however the biggest doubt for the interdiction vessels being Thargoid for me is their design and shape.

The original Thargoid vessels had a very unique and readily identifiable shape, most if not all other ED ships from the original wire-frame days in the 1980's have stayed true to their game origins shape wise such as the Sidewinder, Cobra, Asp etc.


The new alien ship has a similarity in that it has 8 petals, but apart from that doesn't look like any Thargoid ship from the past.


Time will tell, no doubt, but for now I am not convinced they are Thargoid either.

I don't think you can judge anything by the shape. The old Viper looks nothing like the new one, nor does the Adder, the FdL or the Anaconda. The Imperial ships are also very different from their Frontier versions. Yes there are some superficial similarities such as nacelles for the Imps and a general wedge shape, but the same can be said for the Alien ships.

Then there's the question of why would you create a new alien species that also has an eight sided design that pulls people out of hyperspace, when you already have one such species in the game lore?
 
its not a hoax.

Last night as i transport the last data for the CG (was top 10%) there was no bootmark with this name "nicht erforscht" (not explored).

but think what you think
 
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Speaking of badges what's this for? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I know it's an Alliance badge, but I ain't put it there?

I seem to remember in your forum settings you can express a superpower alignment; I expect you hit Alliance there by mistake and this is the result, just guessing though!
 
I wish I could check some information from my in game carreer on a "player's area" on frontier website. I love the way Bungie provides information to its games.

Please, FD. Just some little info. Rank, bookmarks, balance, etc.
 
its not a hoax.

Last night as i transport the last data for the CG (was top 10%) there was no bootmark with this name "nicht erforscht" (not explored).
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/359/32438879426_a07e3cd35a_o.jpg

when i push the bookmark button the object gets the name Synuefe XR-H D11-102 4E and not "nicht erforscht"

It would be actually interesting if each one of 10 players from the top of CG would receive different location planet bookmark with new ruins on it.

Messy but interesting :)
 
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