Are the convoys carrying any cargo ?
Not sure. I just brought a Wake scanner with me. The convoys are the "explorer" Asps.
Are the convoys carrying any cargo ?
Howdy All CMDRS,
Tonight I explored all the other bodies around our Ancient Ruins site and out in the sticks I came across a convoy... they jumped system to boldly go where barely anyone has gone before.
anyway I had a frame shift wake scanner and got a 10/4 on there jump system and I recorded it using nVidia exp. I thought great I will go finish up scanning the rest of these bodies and look back at my reference video for their high wake location.
To my surprise that video wasnt recorded even tho I made double sure by recording it twice and still I cant find it.
So I was thinking maybe a convoy in this system can lead us to another system where the other sites maybe....
I must say I have been really disappointed with the way the ruins 'mystery' has panned out...
I spent weeks/months scanning, measuring and photographing the ruins, trying to understand what their purpose might be and where other ruins might be. I went on long trips looking for ruins where my analyses suggested they might be.
Then the mission comes along and it seemed to me that in fact there was nothing to 'solve' about the ruins...it just got turned into another grind-fest where an NPC would be doing the analyses and he would tell us about the guardians. After a day or two I refused to partake in it despite the millions to be made from doing so. After all, other commanders had already discovered most of what there was to know (and none of which gave us clues as to other ruins).
And then came the CG...where the same NPC was going to analyse the data and point us to other ruins.
I don't normally criticise FD since I really love playing this game and have had a ball over the past year or so. I have always envisaged finding alien ruins in remote systems and having something to solve, some piece of the puzzle to add to the general knowledge of other life in the universe, be they thargoids, guardians or some other race...but this has left a bad taste in my mouth.
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The icing on the cake, for me at least, is that Ram Tahs message suggested that there are other ruins that could be found; but there are no tools to actually help narrow down such search (planetary scanners that would even suggest something was there in the first place, persistent poi's that show up on the scanner, etc.). For crying out loud, the mission given by him doesn't even tell you the system or coordinates of the ruins that the mission is even about!
The illusion of progress. Don't get me wrong, I like the story side of Elite and I do my best to take part in it all and contribute, but I do feel that it would be very nice if we had ways to make progress on our own, to discover new things by effort and gameplay rather than always waiting for Frontier to tell us via game mechanics where to look next. A lot of players do make finds and discoveries by brute force Mk I Eyeball searching combined with a whole lot of luck, but I wish we had more ways to actually explore and discover things on our own too, without the breadcrumbs being laid down for us.
So either someone stumbles upon it, or we have to wait for a Fdev bread crumb after x amounts of CGs, well it gives us time to look at the alien hyperdictions and perhaps search for other potential alien crash sites as well as a few other mysteries as well
I like this expression, "the illusion of progress", that sums up my feelings exactly. Not player driven progress, but breadcrumbs laid out by Frontier. The ruins were never solvable until Frontier implemented a mission and a CG at Ram Tah's. The Aliens were never out there to find until Frontier turned a switch on to make them hyperdict us all over the Pleiades region. The beacon stations were never findable until Frontier gave us a CG and beacons to tell us exactly where to look.
And I understand that it probably has to be like this in Elite because the players really don't have the proper tools in game to make progress any other way. Our scanners don't tell us if there are man made signatures detected on the planet, so all of those people searching throughout the Rift for all of this time had practically no chance at all of finding surface bases on their own. Our scanners don't tell us if artificial structures are detected on the planet surface, so there is no way at all to tell if a planet might possibly have alien ruins on them by simply searching systems. The alien crash sites and barnacles didn't lead us to a region of space where we could discover that hyperdictions occur, Frontier just turned them on one day in a well trafficked area of space so we could start experiencing them. It's the lack of tools in game that could allow players to make natural and honest progression on things like these that, in the end, require Frontier to spoonfeed us little bits of progression, because we have no way to facilitate it on our own in game.
The illusion of progress. Don't get me wrong, I like the story side of Elite and I do my best to take part in it all and contribute, but I do feel that it would be very nice if we had ways to make progress on our own, to discover new things by effort and gameplay rather than always waiting for Frontier to tell us via game mechanics where to look next. A lot of players do make finds and discoveries by brute force Mk I Eyeball searching combined with a whole lot of luck, but I wish we had more ways to actually explore and discover things on our own too, without the breadcrumbs being laid down for us.
I must say I have been really disappointed with the way the ruins 'mystery' has panned out...
I spent weeks/months scanning, measuring and photographing the ruins, trying to understand what their purpose might be and where other ruins might be. I went on long trips looking for ruins where my analyses suggested they might be.
Then the mission comes along and it seemed to me that in fact there was nothing to 'solve' about the ruins...it just got turned into another grind-fest where an NPC would be doing the analyses and he would tell us about the guardians. After a day or two I refused to partake in it despite the millions to be made from doing so. After all, other commanders had already discovered most of what there was to know (and none of which gave us clues as to other ruins).
And then came the CG...where the same NPC was going to analyse the data and point us to other ruins.
I don't normally criticise FD since I really love playing this game and have had a ball over the past year or so. I have always envisaged finding alien ruins in remote systems and having something to solve, some piece of the puzzle to add to the general knowledge of other life in the universe, be they thargoids, guardians or some other race...but this has left a bad taste in my mouth.
Frawd![]()
The icing on the cake, for me at least, is that Ram Tahs message suggested that there are other ruins that could be found; but there are no tools to actually help narrow down such search (planetary scanners that would even suggest something was there in the first place, persistent poi's that show up on the scanner, etc.). For crying out loud, the mission given by him doesn't even tell you the system or coordinates of the ruins that the mission is even about! Do Frontier really expect us to find anything of significance when we have to manually scan, with our eyeballs, every possible landable body in the game? With a planet of 1500KM radius, it would take me 6 1/2 hours to fly one rotation for a single heading...
Here's a page that does a better explanation than I could.
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/173931/why-does-red-light-travel-faster-than-blue-light
3rd answers analogy for example is what I was trying to get at. Although I found the Feynman one the best for getting a headache trying to wrap my head around.
Here's a page that does a better explanation than I could.
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/173931/why-does-red-light-travel-faster-than-blue-light
3rd answers analogy for example is what I was trying to get at. Although I found the Feynman one the best for getting a headache trying to wrap my head around.
I understand that. Hence why I said the star has to be of a higher frequency in order to allow the red reflection of light off of leaves and or organic materials possible.
Red light moves slower after it has been reflected or refracted. The only true source of red light traveling at the speed of light has to be emitted from its source as red light. Otherwise it is slower moving. Since almost all sources of natural light in the entirety of our Universe comes from the fusion of materials in a star, then almost all stars output at least some white light. White light is comprised of every wavelengthy of the color spectrum. It contains light both above infrared and below ultraviolet. This is basic color theory and spectrum analysis we had this in physics class in middle school.
The easiest way to understand it is this. All light can be reflected refracted absorbed or emitted. Only light that is being emitted is moving at the speed of light. Everything else has interacted with atoms/particles of some kind, so now they move slower.
I know exactly what I had said I understand exactly how it works. You just provided me a paper to a link explaining how light interacts with atoms in an object. In order for light to interact with an atom the atom will either absorb all the light or reflect/refract some of the light. Which slows it down and changes the color that our eyes perceive.
Color is not real its the result of how eyes intemperate light waves bouncing off of surfaces. It is the perception of the human mind and a construct we adapted to make us better hunters. I highly doubt anything not of this planet will see anything in the same color or way that human eyes do. They for example may have evolved around a F class star or an A class star. So their eyes are tuned to a different spectrum of visible light. That is assuming that they even have eyes in the traditional sense.
We know the guardians do because the obelisks specifically say the color red. So they have similar eye structure to ours. Which means the will need to be located around an F or A class star at best.
Oh you too, get a room (separate thread) you've been at this for days...![]()
The CG is over, when do we get a clue?????????? Come ooonnnnnnn
I just dont want someone to make this mistake in the future. I am sure this will not be the only time star light will come into play in ED.
two options
1. If we are close to a solution then it will be not clear hint.
2. If we do what we don't must to do then it will be a very clear hint
if you want to illustrate the diff between red light and blue light.............wear an assless police uniform wilst trying to arrest a lady of the night in Amsterdam
sol permit and atmos landing required