Happens every time after a new discovery.
Remember that the stone is not to heavy, you are to weak.
We just need to git gud at science.
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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Happens every time after a new discovery.
Remember that the stone is not to heavy, you are to weak.
We just need to git gud at science.
Use http://xboxdvr.com
Edit; think i see what you're on about, if so its nothing, just the planets texture I believe. Not sure if its just a glitch, lag, or if its intentional, but think of it as a loading screen, I get it on my xbox too.
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Thank you.
Will add this to the plethora of out of game tools needed to play ED.
I've searched, I can't find - someone a little while ago built a simulation of the planetary bodies in a software package but I really can't find the post about it!
Does anyone happen to know who it was so that I can find the post please? If not I'm going to have to resort to ploughing through page by page ... [woah]
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Does anyone happen to know who it was so that I can find the post please? If not I'm going to have to resort to ploughing through page by page ... [woah]
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Actually, your science is sound, though the conclusion is slightly off... Red flora suggests an environment that provides the most efficient energy at the higher end of the spectrum - in essence your plants are soaking up everything with more energy than red light, suggesting your star is very bright with significant output in the blue/green visible range... That could possibly make it one of those gorgeous cyan coloured O types, or at the very least a leaning towards the A/B/O range (possibly an F at a push) though obviously you have to take that with a pinch of salt and figure out how its home planets atmosphere changed the signature wavelength of the parent star, as you correctly surmised.
Interestingly, as an aside, its speculated that a dimmer star would cause plants to turn black, in order to absorb more energy in the form of infra red. Strange but true.
My background is astrophysics rather than astrobiology, so I freely admit I could be very wrong, but my first instinct on reading the red northern tribes thing was that it was a thermal/light issue. In terrestrial animals, the pigment change seems to be required to assist in both reducing the damage done from strong energy sources, and actually allows the body to exchange heat with its environment more effectively. Whilst admittedly highly anthropically biased, I dont see a reason not to assume other life forms wouldn't do the same. A biologist I know likes to put it - in nature, if it can happen independently twice, evolution can create it an infinite number of times.
Personally, im not sure the specific colour matters a great deal, its the fact that there is a change at all that really matters. From this you can infer that the northern region gets more light, suggesting either an extreme axial tilt and tidal locking, or an extremely eccentric orbit that puts the southern "summer" a significant distance from the star whilst the northern summer is much much closer.
Either way, loving the discussion of actual practical science that the ruins have given us, if nothing else
Thank you doctor, I like your diagnosis! My degree was in physics with a solid state emphasis during the last year, but that was 40+ years ago and my physics is getting a bit rusty (but apparently not as bad as some
). It was getting quite late when I posted this but I wasn't actually trying to draw any conclusion. I agree with your thoughts, but my "excessively red" possibility was just a throw away thought wondering if a red supergiant was flooding the northern hemisphere (with a large planetary axial tilt to explain why the southern inhabitants were not also red) with so much red light that everything was tinted red. However, although I think there is a clue here it is nowhere sufficient to help us locate the homeworld. The physics discussion has been amusing but I think this is a red herring (pun intentional!). Fly safe.
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The conjunction should happen twice in the 6.9 days. I'm not sure how it matches at the ruin site, but somewhere on the planet it will be perfect.
It would be a bad 'time marker' though. It's not visible from the planet. The Y-Dwarf will be totally obscured by the moon.
I like your thinking here. But I assume that the puzzle is intended to be soluble in solo, so there must be some way to simulate the "srv bridging" in solo, & the only thing I can think of is to drop relics at these specific points. I suspect you are onto something here.
Edit: Cmdr HBosh has suggested ship placement & that apparently does not follow usual behaviour on dismissal/recall at the ruins; I think you two guys may have cracked it- carry on with your research Cmdrs, we'll need it at the other ruin sites!
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This is the Canonn science thread; we go where the (pseudo)science takes us!
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Do the ruins point us to the next set? I was looking around yesterday on my first visit, got a bit bored towards the end of my session so I got back in my ship and pointed my nose directly at the glowing dot of the Ancient Relic, ( think it was the relic ) then filtered the galaxy map to only show stars of the same type as Synuefe XR-H D11-102.
The ruins point directly at another very local star of the same class, cant recall the name.
I headed over there, its a large system, the first planet is a gas giant with a number of moons, one of the moons has a moon of it's own. just like Synuefe XR-H D11-102 1B so I started my search there.
Here's my main question, I arrived there, dropped into orbital cruise and headed for the "north" pole. Dropped to atmospheric flight there and, well, just basically started heading off on a heading of 180 degrees.
Is this what I need to be doing? Seems like a massive task to search a whole planet. Do you get the audio for the ruins from orbital flight?
The ruins point directly at another very local star of the same class, cant recall the name.
I headed over there, its a large system, the first planet is a gas giant with a number of moons, one of the moons has a moon of it's own. just like Synuefe XR-H D11-102 1B so I started my search there.
Here's my main question, I arrived there, dropped into orbital cruise and headed for the "north" pole. Dropped to atmospheric flight there and, well, just basically started heading off on a heading of 180 degrees.
Is this what I need to be doing? Seems like a massive task to search a whole planet. Do you get the audio for the ruins from orbital flight?
Thank you doctor, I like your diagnosis! My degree was in physics with a solid state emphasis during the last year, but that was 40+ years ago and my physics is getting a bit rusty (but apparently not as bad as some
However, although I think there is a clue here it is nowhere sufficient to help us locate the homeworld. The physics discussion has been amusing but I think this is a red herring (pun intentional!). Fly safe.
No worries dude, and yeah well aware of the inherent dangers of late night posting... it's 20+ years ago for me, and a few times now I've posted something, and realised 10 minutes later that I didnt quite follow the logic all the way to the end lol.
Like you, I suspect the vast majority of it is flavour text for the lore lovers out there. I've already come up with 3 reasons a planet could have increased radiation at the poles, (axial tilt, eccentric orbit or a second star above the system plane) and thats without thinking too hard. Sadly there's nothing you can really use to predict where you'll find the guardians.... it'll be more a case of "oh.. so the north was highly radioactive because of the big uranium meteorite that crashed there" once we've found it.
The science has been really fun to be honest. It's not often you get to really think about or even apply half the stuff us science geeks learned, and I hope the other commanders out there will excuse our physics binge
Take it easy in the black, commander
dynamicbob
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Been saying for a while that peeps should be checking out nearby systems bodies ( both for the usual volcanoes etc if those exist they could become tourist destinations) and other ruin sites ( planets with antimony in my experience outside of alien stuff usually have a higher chance of human POIs and higher than usual of the rare spawning rocks etc)
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Wasnt the conjuction aligning with barnards nebula ?
Sure, CMDR zorbaq recreated the ruins system in Space Engine, here:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?p=5025049&viewfull=1#post5025049
PM him to share
Cheers
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Apologies to everyone else that this is still going on...
I don't need you to.
Thank you! I don't need it, but thank you anyway!
Yeah sure there are. On the other hand, SR, GR, QFT, everything we know about particle physics etc. all disagree with you. So if you're going to turn that all on it's head, then great, amazing, but you're going to need like 7 or 8 sigma level of evidence at least.
Nope, it wasn't.
Well we can get into the nature of the vacuum, and to what extent a vacuum can exist in the universe due to trace amount of molecules if you want. And then we can go into a pure vacuum being a false vacuum, lowest energy states, the possibility of negative energy compared to the false vacuum state, and so on and so forth if you want. Seems a bit over the top for this forum but happy to do it if you really want.
Well given that everything I've said is pretty up to date with physics I'm not convinced I've made a bad statement. Feel free to point it out, but so far my apparent bad statements seem to have comprised of things I haven't actually said.
Errr... that's what I said. You're the one that was saying the source makes a difference.
Ok, this is just getting bizzare.
Yes it is. Well within the limits of the pure vacuum vs almost vacuum situation. Also what is your beef with visible light. It's just one small part of the EM spectrum. What about the rest of the spectrum?
Well... if you're talking about the fact that light is travelling through air or water, and then through the cornea etc. then you are correct, it is not travelling fully at c when it's detected. If it's not that and you're still talking about something inherent in the nature of visible light rather than the nature of the eye, then you might need to explain.
So anyway look mate, I'm not having a go at you and I'm not disparaging your efforts to work out characteristics of the guardians homeworld based on the information we have - I hope you don't think I'm knocking you on that front. But you can't expect to post things that fly in the face of current accepted physics without being called out on it.
Just stop now will you, this isn't helping at all.
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dynamicbob
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We need to see if there are any actual live guardian colonies, perhaps cutoff from space travel, they may have regressed on a single planet back to their primative form (given we dont know how long ago their civ perished) how widespread they were, did they have their own generation ships with cryo pods that might be found somewhere, a host of other questions remain unanswered
Barnard's loop is at least very close to the system plane.
Barnard's loop, Orions Belt, Witchead and Col 70 sector are close to this plane. The ruin is also very close to 'in the system plane' at sunrise/sunset.
I disagree.
This THREAD moves faster then both.... and even salt is soon forgotten.
Right CMDRs?
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I have suggested this twice now over the last few days, and no one has listened or attempted to try it. :x
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Greetings all,
I was away for a couple of days and only got a chance to check in every now and then but gather there was a Community Goal regarding the ruins and data collected.
I thought this was a great idea to increase interest around cracking this mystery. I also understand that it ended after 3 days of a 2 week time frame. How bloody disappointing is that? I was looking forward to offloading a tonne of data instead of just deleting it. Surely (...and dont call me Surely) a longer Community Goal would have extended the investigation?
Anyway, are we just waiting for another hint from Ram or has one been provided?
I was away for a couple of days and only got a chance to check in every now and then but gather there was a Community Goal regarding the ruins and data collected.
I thought this was a great idea to increase interest around cracking this mystery. I also understand that it ended after 3 days of a 2 week time frame. How bloody disappointing is that? I was looking forward to offloading a tonne of data instead of just deleting it. Surely (...and dont call me Surely) a longer Community Goal would have extended the investigation?
Anyway, are we just waiting for another hint from Ram or has one been provided?
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