Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[Iori]

Notice that there is line of sight from the ruins to all the other marked systems.

If we assume that all the ruins have line of sight with the rest, that would narrow the search area.

 

[Ramalf]

From the data we've gathered, we know that the Gardians were/are humanoids. We can assume that they lived on the planets with the ruins. Therefore, I think that we can rule out planets with a temperature > 373 K (100°C / 212°F) because their blood would probably boil ! [blah]

 

[Toshi_TNE]

In case anyone was planning on using ancient artifacts to form a pentagram and sacrifice your ship to the alien gods, I already tried.

 

[ThyrusMCP]

In my opinion, because there is only 1 planet in each system which has this unique trait. It may not make sense from the eyes of a Guardian. But it could make sense from the eyes of an FD employee who was placing the ruins on planets which all share a certain trait which is UNIQUE to only those planets in the system, so that we as players have it easier to identify possible planets to look for. Yes the rotation doesn't make any more sense than being tidally locked, having 300K temperature or whatever but this specific and unique trait allows us to narrow it down to 4 planets, on in each system. This could be something someone came up with to place the ruins on. With someone I don't mean guardian but someone at FD.

Again you assumption works only if the mistery is solvable only with our informations. we don't know if the dev want us to find theses sites soon.

 

[danteuk]

Ok. Here's the deal. As anyone who has had to defend a dissertation in any rigid science knows, I am actually going pretty easy with my dissenting voice and questioning here.

Out of all of this entire mystery story line, the only thing that has been done that has followed the scientific method was something that the devs never even intended to do so. That was the original finding of the original ruins. Observe, form hypothesis, make prediction, test prediction. The original ruins were observed in the trailer. Based on the skybox, the ruins location was predicted. Pilots went there and tested the predicted location by searching. They confirmed the prediction and the hypothesis with the successful location of the ruins. Unfortunately in what we are doing now, we don't even have an observation to base any predictive hypothesis on.

This is a thread that attempts to be based in science and the scientific method. My suggestion at this point is to get confirmation from the devs as to whether this is a mystery that is intended to be solved through logical, rational, and scientific method and thought.

mmm which is more likely: getting the devs to confirm something or finding a ruins site by manually eyeballing a billion km2 of surface spread over 40+ planets - tough call that.

It took over a week of people saying the ruins was bugged before MB stepped in and confirmed there was 'an' issue ( actually closer to 9 or10 issues but who's counting ) - in fairness to MB I strongly suspect this puzzle is his baby and he was enjoying a nice Xmas break away, I bet he was not happy to come back to find the mess the programmers had made of implementing his vision!

 

[Arenis]

After spending 9 hours (seriously) flying over Synuefe XO-P c22-17 D1, i realized that there is no way we solve this with the actual hints given by FD, other than pure luck.

Unfortunaly i (and a lot of players) can't spend 9 hours a day brute forcing planets to find something on its surface, we seriously need new scanner for explorers.

Oh yes, a new scanner!
And the possibility of putting a marker on precise coordinates on the planets.

 

[Alderius]

I think I'll head out tonight to participate in a planetary search, not that I have any real hope of finding anything but I could use a break from doing missions and it's been a while since I did any surface work/prospecting. I'm curious as to how the original site was found, I know it was triangulation from a trailer but did the commander actually triangulate the ruins location or just the planet? Cruising at an altitude of anywhere from 3-12k (depending on graphics options) and eyeballing the surface of an entire planet (someone calculated an insane amount of time to do so) is simply, physically, not possible. I find it hard to believe that FD would really think a set of ruins (assuming they are similar to the last) could be found this way, with the really poor tools (DSS and SRV scanner) they have provided and the need for low altitude flyby's. Even then, considering the issues seen (or rather not seen) with graphics problems means a site could be overflown and not actually "be there".
Kudo's to all of the optimists out there, good luck to all of you and I salute you and suggest you also go out immediately and buy a lottery ticket o7

 

[webik150]

In my opinion, because there is only 1 planet in each system which has this unique trait. It may not make sense from the eyes of a Guardian. But it could make sense from the eyes of an FD employee who was placing the ruins on planets which all share a certain trait which is UNIQUE to only those planets in the system, so that we as players have it easier to identify possible planets to look for. Yes the rotation doesn't make any more sense than being tidally locked, having 300K temperature or whatever but this specific and unique trait allows us to narrow it down to 4 planets, on in each system. This could be something someone came up with to place the ruins on. With someone I don't mean guardian but someone at FD.

Though they aren't one in each system. 3 are in Synuefe XO-P C22-17 and one is in Synuefe ZL-J D10-119.
(It you're talking about the counter-clockwise thing. Otherwise I missed something)

 

[Garp]

I think Ram Tah should explain why he thinks that more ruins have to be in the systems he listed. If his explanation then seems plausible, maybe i start to help him search.
Imagine he made a mistake. We search for months and he will never tell. Because he won't survive that.

 

[danteuk]

Can someone please post a picture of the rearranged obelisk site at the current known ancient ruins, But picture must be clear, and have no edits done to it, i was doing some photoshop rearranging of the current image that has the clusters label, and found something interesting, but the edits make it to difficult to comprehend the image.

Also on a side note,, i wonder if he historical data we receive when we get the combination correct, has some kind of hidden coordinates in the article numbers eg.. (14/21) (10/21) take the first two from all found and rearrange to possible system cords or a combination of planet positions in a system, or likely planet surface cords? just an idea

it's on the front page:"FINALLY, A CLEAN MAP FOR EVERYONE TO EDIT (CMDR Olivia Vespera)"

 

[Nydo_Horth]

And the possibility of putting a marker on precise coordinates on the planets.

For God's sake yes we need that =D

 

[BL1P]

What if we all go collect UAs park outside Ram Tahs base and hold him hostage under threat of UA bombing unless he creates an advanced surface scanner and Bookmark/beacon my current pos tool ?

 

[Garp]

From the data we've gathered, we know that the Gardians were/are humanoids. We can assume that they lived on the planets with the ruins. Therefore, I think that we can rule out planets with a temperature > 373 K (100°C / 212°F) because their blood would probably boil ! [blah]

The ruins were build by robots. Maybe.

 

[Straha Yeagar]

O dear god are we supposed to defend our theories ?



Im screwed...

Contrary to how I have been coming off today, I enjoy seeing the speculation and thoughts people have here. There are clearly many very intelligent and creative people working on this. It is perfectly fine for people to keep going down the rabbit holes. My issue is that as I have watched all of this unfold it is becoming increasingly evident that this is likely not something that can be figured out using the scientific method, of which a theory is the pinnacle. It seems increasingly likely that rather than a mystery we are meant to solve, we are seeing a story being told, with new chapters being given to us in the form of Galnet articles, missions, and community goals.

I think if the latest announcement by Ram was meant for anything beyond just a storied announcement, perhaps he would have given some insight into his method of divining the few likely systems. So I am left wanting to ask him how in the hell did he figure these ones out as candidates? What line of reasoning led him there? How can we as participants progress on down that line? Build upon his discoveries?

 

[CMDR RaoulDuke]

So I am at Synuefe VL-K B42-12 which is one system over from Synuefe ZL-J D10-119 and I am definitely getting some weirds sounds when sat in space at 30km/s. On the Xbox will try and record and upload somewhere

 

[xXxSatelliteNetxXx]

oh my face!!! haha
that must be new, didnt see it yesterday, thanks!

 

[bAdbUd]

Contrary to how I have been coming off today, I enjoy seeing the speculation and thoughts people have here. There are clearly many very intelligent and creative people working on this. It is perfectly fine for people to keep going down the rabbit holes. My issue is that as I have watched all of this unfold it is becoming increasingly evident that this is likely not something that can be figured out using the scientific method, of which a theory is the pinnacle. It seems increasingly likely that rather than a mystery we are meant to solve, we are seeing a story being told, with new chapters being given to us in the form of Galnet articles, missions, and community goals.

I think if the latest announcement by Ram was meant for anything beyond just a storied announcement, perhaps he would have given some insight into his method of divining the few likely systems. So I am left wanting to ask him how in the hell did he figure these ones out as candidates? What line of reasoning led him there? How can we as participants progress on down that line? Build upon his discoveries?

I agree, it's something I speculated on yesteray.

 

[morph113]

The ruins were build by robots. Maybe.

I'm pretty sure it mentioned somewhere that the ruins existed before they invented computers and artificial intelligence. But that's just out of my memory, I could be wrong.

 

[Ramalf]

The ruins were build by robots. Maybe.

Maybe, but we know they colonized a lot of planets so why would they bother to construct ruins with robots on planets they didn't live on ? [wacko]

 

[Cmdr Lucca1985]

We need to be able set custom waypoints on planets thats it. They know that but that would mean the gameplay dripfeed might get ahead of them. I believe too many people at FD suffered too harsh a knee jerk reaction punishment for the original alien ruins being found too early and are now instigating this glacially paced alien info dat collection reveal for fear of further management reprisal.