Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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They're everywhere!

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(Etched in the pavement near my house!)
 
Well, we do have a couple of days before the event finishes, over a week in fact but as that time runs out, I fear the number of CMDRs searching will dwindle lowering our chances of finding the site in time.

Maybe luck will play a part, maybe the site will render at a higher altitude or maybe the site we were looking for was inside each and everyone of us from the start!!! [heart] [heart] [heart]


My mission timer is down to 1 week 5 days & a few hours I can only play ed for 2-4 hours a day
I don't think we will complete it in the original time allocated by FD Unless we get VERY lucky
 
I suspect that this is the point - FD got burnt with the original site when some clever person (people?) figured out the location from the sky in video/images and the site was found faster than they were expecting - before they were ready from what I've read. I think they have deliberately made this next site very difficult to find with absolutely no information to narrow down the search. Maybe someone will get lucky, but if not, I suspect Ram Tah will make additional discoveries in the next few days/weeks, on a timescale of FD's choosing.

FWIW, I don't believe that there is any information hidden in the arrangement of the first site for 4 reasons - 1) AFAIK, all the information derived from the site has come from data scanned from the objects, not the arrangement of the site, 2) having the solution in plain sight (or site, ha ha) runs the risk of the very first person looking at the site (if they are clever enough) solving the problem immediately, 3) it would seem odd for an advanced space-faring race to encode information in such a prehistoric fashion, particularly given that information is also encoded electronically, and 4) when FD decided that we needed/they were ready to give us more clues, these clues apparently came from the data, not the structure of the site - Ram Tah could have announced that he had discovered, for example, "that the positions of this or that part of the structure makes a star map" or "this section of the site seems to be a message which I have partially decode in this way", rather than "look what I've found in the data"

I don't think people should stop trying to decode the first site, but it wouldn't surprise me if we eventually discover that we have been trying to find meaning where there was none ... much like life ;)

I am in agreement with this, I think its likely on the storyline wall FD had this season kinda planned out with a series of events and activities for us that would culminate in the discovery of the ruins possibly in a certain order leading into a new story arc. The incredible piece of work from Xdeath to locate what we call the "alpha" site ruins could well have thrown all this careful planning into the garbage requiring some major re-thinking of the story arc and the underlying development back at FDHQ.

We have, possibly, screwed up the plan on this one so bear that in mind with all the hate threads, its not like FD will come out and say "Yes, you messed this up for us" but there is a chance we did.
 
hey guys, found a data point on SYNEUFE ZL-J D10-119 7 D @ 57.6524 18.5579

scanned it but nothing, anyone know what to do with this? do i have to find more?
 
...as at no point have we been led to believe that "decoding" the ruins would provide us with "the answer". Who even said that there were actually things to be decoded?
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I did. Here. I also point out that the language data shared with us essentially tells us to decode them. Also here.

Morning all. Not fully caught up yet, and am at work, so wont be much to add from me atm.

But what gooddoc said, except the radar bit - they don't, we just have to live with that.

But the the original ruins.

Re-read the stuff about the Guardians language.

Its visual. It uses symbols/glyphs. They encode astronomical info in those glyphs ("the moon, as seen from their homeworld").

Its basically telling us the ruins are a coded source of information that will reveal astro data.

More time trying to crack that code rather than flying low and slow peering out of cockpits getting eyestrain may be whats needed.

I'm liking that line of thought about the cordyceps though! Good find and good idea!

They have been found out Colonia way, and I said then (earlier in this thread) that cordyceps was bad news.

Keep your spirits up folks, and remember this is not some "click the '?', go to new location click on '?' there" situation. These puzzles could take weeks, months or maybe even years to decypher.

Good luck everyone o7

I stand by it.
 
My mission timer is down to 1 week 5 days & a few hours I can only play ed for 2-4 hours a day
I don't think we will complete it in the original time allocated by FD Unless we get VERY lucky

But is it really only for the original lenght? If you turn in the mission now and get it again the timer resets to 1 month. I am curious to if they gave the whole thing a hard limit no matter of what the mission timer says.
 

Ozric

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We have, possibly, screwed up the plan on this one so bear that in mind with all the hate threads, its not like FD will come out and say "Yes, you messed this up for us" but there is a chance we did.

Of course we did and to be fair they have already said that. It's not the first time they've had to bin entire storylines they'd been working on for months and it probably won't be the last.
 

Javert

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Just trying to catch up with what's been going on after having no time to play for a good while.

Looking at the OPs on this thread etc, I'm not quite clear what is going on with the ruins.

Do I take it that when you are at the ruins, you can retrieve data / messages and that the transcripts of all these messages are listed here?

http://elev.it.vgs.no/1002vaan/guardians/historical.php

Sorry for the dumb question but I couldn't quite figure this out from the links I was looking at.
 
25Km and as I have said before, there is only 1 planet with the exact temperature of the current know ruins.



I'd hardly call only quoting the relevant part, skillfully editing.

Honestly we always have a new influx of people when something big hits, but this group are beyond the pale.

I had no intention of pointing out the first part of your post made no sense as at no point have we been led to believe that "decoding" the ruins would provide us with "the answer". Who even said that there were actually things to be decoded?

So the only relevant part of your post was you saying they need to narrow down the search area for us and I simply pointed that they just have. 4 systems rather than ~399,999,999,999 is a start.

Was it not the general consensus that the ruins would direct us towards the next part of the puzzle? I mean perhaps FD always intended this to be the way of the event and if so far enough but who knows.

Your comment of "influx of people" is disappointing and extremely off putting. This is an open forum is it not with new and more tenured members welcomed to post and add their thoughts and theories. Your comment does nothing but to contradict that position and ethos.

While I my "Mostly Harmless" status conveys a less than prolific commentor, it does not illustrate the months I have been reading and following the thread with great interest and enjoyment. So if you feel this thread has gone beyond the pale, Im positive there are others that might be more suited to your thoughts on new members.
 
Could we be missing one relic tower at the ruin?

One to represent Synuefe ZL-J d10-119.

If so, it should be at least 1000m outside the ruin. Probably 1200m, in the direction past the large landing pad.

I was thinking about this myself. Did anyone search that far outside the ruins in that direction? Because it would indeed make sense when the other 4 beacons match the 4 systems EXCLUDING the far away 119 system. Would be nice if someone could test this.
 
Could we be missing one relic tower at the ruin?

One to represent Synuefe ZL-J d10-119.

If so, it should be at least 1000m outside the ruin. Probably 1200m, in the direction past the large landing pad.

Interesting.... Large landing pad???

- I also think there is at least one missing ancient item.
 
Could we be missing one relic tower at the ruin?

One to represent Synuefe ZL-J d10-119.

If so, it should be at least 1000m outside the ruin. Probably 1200m, in the direction past the large landing pad.

I have checked at about 800m-1km in that direction, line through big circle to relic inside small circle. Not an exhaustive search, so worth going over in a more orgnised way.

Some of the ruins screenshots I've seen also seem top have tire tracks heading that way, so others may also have checked, but still worth a do-over :)
 
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