I found this geysers on IC 2391 Sector ZE-A C3A at -79,6491| 138,7207.
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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Yup - there's a FAQ on the FP with some background about where to get mission. That was the original ruins - we're currently trying to find 4 more (also on FP), with few clues as to where they are, other than system names.
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They're on GMT, UK based, same as me - when I'm at work, so are they. I'm at work, its just struck noon, in fact!.
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not 4, "number of further Guardian sites" according to Ram Tah. May be 1 or 100.
Thread 10
So: do you think we'll need to start thread 10 today - or tomorrow
Would be good to start with 4 fresh new ruins - best get searching!
So: do you think we'll need to start thread 10 today - or tomorrow
Would be good to start with 4 fresh new ruins - best get searching!Ozric
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Good for you and if it turns out to be right then fantastic! I'm not entirely sure I agree with your hypothesis though. There is also a huge difference between a hypothesis and making it sound as though we should be expecting something (not that you did that).
I have not handed The mission in since getting it & i think i got it only a few hours after the mission started
I am not going to hand it in. to retake it & let FD cheat on the misson length lol
Sorry, you are correct - sites in 4 systems.
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I have checked at about 800m-1km in that direction, line through big circle to relic inside small circle. Not an exhaustive search, so worth going over in a more orgnised way.
Some of the ruins screenshots I've seen also seem top have tire tracks heading that way, so others may also have checked, but still worth a do-over
It's probably more to the north and further out, if it's there.
I have to make an overlay on a larger area around the ruin to see exactly.
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True, its a hypothesis only. No one official has said "oh yeah, its all in there" (and I hope they don't).
But I can't read that language data any other way. "Here be glyphs. We talk about astronomy with glyphs".
That, and flying along looking at the surface out of the window squinting at pixels is a sure-fire way to burn-out.
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Parked in the trees! on Planet Essex (Braintree is in Essex - for those none UK types) the sounds are somewhat different to other sites could swear some communication is inferred in the sound effects, currently uploading clip to YT hope it works as it's a bit big, will post link once processed (and have come back from walking my dog) should be at https://youtu.be/8277E5L5IJU once YT have finished squashing it
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If this overlay is accurate, then you can estimate in what direction it will be.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...9-The-Canonn?p=5056537&viewfull=1#post5056537
Two CMDRs targeting eachother can measure that.
Or park your ship and target it with your SRV if you are in solo.
The puzzle must contain the following information to allow us to:
1) identify star systems the other ruins are in
2) identify which planets in the star systems that have ruins
3) identify where to search on said planets
It seems we've not solved any of these three elements, so Ram Tahs recent announcement answered the first question for us. There are theories that the pattern of these stars in the sky as viewed from the know ruins matches the location of the beacons, that could have been the clue to identify which stars to search.
I'm working on a theory at the moment, which might lead to answers for question 2 and 3, but I haven't tested it yet. It's partly an amalgamation of theories I've seen posted on this thread and my own ideas. First off, I think there are at least two puzzles to solve, one for finding the other ruins sites, and one for finding out how to unlock the ancient civilisation data. I've mostly been working on the first puzzle. My current hunch is that the positioning of the obelisks and the pattern of glyphs on them is for decoding the ancient data, and that the terrain layout is a clue for finding the other systems. No evidence, just a hunch.
If that's the case, then how can that point at multiple places at the same time to lead to all the other ruin sites? Well what if it isn't a map showing us where a body is, but is instead a diagram of a celestial event that's unique to all bodies with ruins on. I haven't figured out how to decode that diagram yet though. But for example, what if it's trying to tell us that the body is tidally locked to its parent star and has a moon orbiting it. If that's the case we could search the other systems Ram Tah gave us for that combination of factors. If there's only one body in each system that matches this then it tells us which planet to search on (question 2).
Operating on the same example, we know the current known site is aligned with the planets moon as it rises. If this is key feature of all the sites, then we now know to look at only a single latitude on the candidate planets (the moons orbital line). There's also the theory that the sites need line of sight to each other, in which case we can restrict the search further to just the hemisphere of the planet that has line of sight to the other stars. This would so some way to answering question 3.
The decoded data says they revere the site of the ruins almost religiously. On Earth the pyramids and Stonehenge have alignments to stellar bodies as they rise over the horizon and are religious in nature. So that might be a clue that the moon rising in alignment to the currently known site is part of their religion and may be replicated on the other sites. If it's a unique set of orbital mechanics that allow their network to function, it stands to reason they would deify that arrangement of stellar bodies. Maybe they dug out the terrain to symbolise that arrangement at the site. If I'm right, all sites will have the same basic pattern in the terrain, which would also explain why finding this site out of order wouldn't matter for this clue, thus the terrain layout wasn't changed by FD in the patch.
Granted that's a house of cards theory, but if I'm thinking along the right lines, then identifying what the diagram is telling us about a potential unique celestial event/structure might point us straight to the ruins in the other systems, or at least a much much smaller area than is currently being searched. It also explains why FD thought giving us the exact systems to search was a usable clue.
1) identify star systems the other ruins are in
2) identify which planets in the star systems that have ruins
3) identify where to search on said planets
It seems we've not solved any of these three elements, so Ram Tahs recent announcement answered the first question for us. There are theories that the pattern of these stars in the sky as viewed from the know ruins matches the location of the beacons, that could have been the clue to identify which stars to search.
I'm working on a theory at the moment, which might lead to answers for question 2 and 3, but I haven't tested it yet. It's partly an amalgamation of theories I've seen posted on this thread and my own ideas. First off, I think there are at least two puzzles to solve, one for finding the other ruins sites, and one for finding out how to unlock the ancient civilisation data. I've mostly been working on the first puzzle. My current hunch is that the positioning of the obelisks and the pattern of glyphs on them is for decoding the ancient data, and that the terrain layout is a clue for finding the other systems. No evidence, just a hunch.
If that's the case, then how can that point at multiple places at the same time to lead to all the other ruin sites? Well what if it isn't a map showing us where a body is, but is instead a diagram of a celestial event that's unique to all bodies with ruins on. I haven't figured out how to decode that diagram yet though. But for example, what if it's trying to tell us that the body is tidally locked to its parent star and has a moon orbiting it. If that's the case we could search the other systems Ram Tah gave us for that combination of factors. If there's only one body in each system that matches this then it tells us which planet to search on (question 2).
Operating on the same example, we know the current known site is aligned with the planets moon as it rises. If this is key feature of all the sites, then we now know to look at only a single latitude on the candidate planets (the moons orbital line). There's also the theory that the sites need line of sight to each other, in which case we can restrict the search further to just the hemisphere of the planet that has line of sight to the other stars. This would so some way to answering question 3.
The decoded data says they revere the site of the ruins almost religiously. On Earth the pyramids and Stonehenge have alignments to stellar bodies as they rise over the horizon and are religious in nature. So that might be a clue that the moon rising in alignment to the currently known site is part of their religion and may be replicated on the other sites. If it's a unique set of orbital mechanics that allow their network to function, it stands to reason they would deify that arrangement of stellar bodies. Maybe they dug out the terrain to symbolise that arrangement at the site. If I'm right, all sites will have the same basic pattern in the terrain, which would also explain why finding this site out of order wouldn't matter for this clue, thus the terrain layout wasn't changed by FD in the patch.
Granted that's a house of cards theory, but if I'm thinking along the right lines, then identifying what the diagram is telling us about a potential unique celestial event/structure might point us straight to the ruins in the other systems, or at least a much much smaller area than is currently being searched. It also explains why FD thought giving us the exact systems to search was a usable clue.
Another check and this does stand up....
- Im not out there currently so cannot check but someone should...
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Ozric
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General consensus is a hard thing to measure, but no is what I would suggest. For a start, what puzzle do you thing the ruins are part of? As far as I can tell they are not linked to anything we've had so far, with the possible exception of Halsey's comments.
I didn't say new people weren't welcome, please don't put words into my mouth. The attitude of some of the new group of people who are posting regularly, towards people coming in and asking one question is the biggest problem and to be fair your tone towards my response does nothing to help this perception. Parading things as facts, when there's no evidence is frustrating, but something we're used to.
Your overall posting record has nothing to do with anything.
Umm... on Xbox, how would one be able to show the location of the 'Known Synuefe X R ruins site system' so that 'it' would apear as a HUD icon in cockpit view , when in the furthest suggested Synuefe ZL system ?
I ask this as, I can plot a route via the Galaxy Map and then when I return to cockpit view I am obviously seeing the first system/jump waypoint on a route, and not 'Known Synuefe X R ruins site system'.
ps, Iam probably just being very stupid, not able to get my head round this issue !
UMM.... EDIT EDIT EDIT LOLingtons ( this thread aint a blinkin chat room dontcha know [squeeeee] )
pps, Just read Oz's post above this post, hopefully someone might still give me some help with my question :S
I ask this as, I can plot a route via the Galaxy Map and then when I return to cockpit view I am obviously seeing the first system/jump waypoint on a route, and not 'Known Synuefe X R ruins site system'.
ps, Iam probably just being very stupid, not able to get my head round this issue !
UMM.... EDIT EDIT EDIT LOLingtons ( this thread aint a blinkin chat room dontcha know [squeeeee] )
pps, Just read Oz's post above this post, hopefully someone might still give me some help with my question :S
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