Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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Extrapolating out on the black line using the proportions from the overlay of systems.
I found (I think, maybe these also were reported) new "braintrees" in IC 2391 Sector ZE-A d101 C 3 a. They are on another big crater and they show up as a tiny POI just like the geysers and fumaroles.
Coords are blurry in the screenshot, they are:
6.8858
135.3777
Maybe we are overlooking this?
Coords are blurry in the screenshot, they are:
6.8858
135.3777
Maybe we are overlooking this?
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Nobody can be silly enough to expect a brute force eye ball search could work in a reasonable amount of time with that amount of ground to cover. A relatively easy spottable clue must be present near one of the planets where the ruins are placed. Outfitting my alt's Anaconda for long range travel and will investigate all bodies in the mentioned systems for orbital POI's...<sigh>
Why not? Should be less painful than eyeballing the planets, and you have to pay attention less (missing the ruins while getting some tea & biscuits is my nightmare).
Synuefe XO-P c22-17 is my system of choice, just got there last night and did a slow SC flyby at about 4Mkm of a few of the landable planets, thought maybe there would be something large enough (you know, like an arrow......) to indicate a site, but no luck. Flew down to about 5km and did some skimming, but other than a POI crashed human ship with 5 occupied escape pods nothing of interest. I rescued the pods, at least the trip wasn't totally worthless, 5 digital humans will be happy to get home 
I'm focusing on the binary planet's near the first sun (A3?), settled into a huge impact crater for the night on the tidally locked planet which is fairly cool in itself. I'll do a bit more surface skimming tonight, I know that the original ruins don't create a POI but I'm investigating them anyway, breaks up the monotony. I was thinking while cruising the surface about the Fomadine Rift clue, and how all of it had been discovered by the time I even got there, it was disappointing. Now I'm participating in this clue and nothing has yet been discovered, so "technically" I could be the first to find, but the odds of stumbling on anything are beyond astronomical (pun intended). Well, at least I have a chance hehe.
Hoping for another clue today!
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What is an orbital POI?
I'm focusing on the binary planet's near the first sun (A3?), settled into a huge impact crater for the night on the tidally locked planet which is fairly cool in itself. I'll do a bit more surface skimming tonight, I know that the original ruins don't create a POI but I'm investigating them anyway, breaks up the monotony. I was thinking while cruising the surface about the Fomadine Rift clue, and how all of it had been discovered by the time I even got there, it was disappointing. Now I'm participating in this clue and nothing has yet been discovered, so "technically" I could be the first to find, but the odds of stumbling on anything are beyond astronomical (pun intended). Well, at least I have a chance hehe.
Hoping for another clue today!
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What is an orbital POI?
I gotta take a closer look at some of the other craters on that planet and other nearby planets. The braintrees growing in craters is interesting enough to go investigate. Doubt it has anything to do with the Guardians, but honestly, don't really care.
Or heck, maybe these are some bizarre Guardian made bioweapon remnants.
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On the clue front, don't hold out - a new CG went up today, but its for rescuing Alliance escape pods from wreckage.
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/588a0d239657ba805b6c8198
A POI in orbit around a planet. I've bumped into a couple of sets of wreckage and cannisters falling into gravity wells. I believe this is also how Unknown Probes have been found, but not sure on that. Maybe will show up that is part of the mystery in such a POI? Maybe.
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Everything on this moon seems to sit in a crater. we should explore as many as we can.
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Tinfoil hat …ENGAGE (said in Ricky Bobby voice from Talledaga Nights).
Garbage theory #172. Don't waste your time reading.
Garbage theory #172. Don't waste your time reading.
The layout of the initial ancient ruins sites roughly matches the layout of the systems stars where other ancient ruins are located.
Look at pic of triangles overlaid on initial site and relic antennae (pillar that rises when you get close).
Look at pic of triangles overlaid on gal map.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...9-The-Canonn?p=5066195&viewfull=1#post5066195
If this is taken as true, then the tip of the triangle on the gal map (zl j d10 119) coincides with the tip of the triangle antennae Iabled as B4 near cluster F as shown/labelled on map.
Look at pic of initial site map with B4 near cluster F.
https://imgur.com/a/RVZBN#6XexGII
(the other sites/antennae would match the other star systems and closest relic cluster contains info on that systems location for ruins…e.g B1 and A – IC/B2-4, B4 and F Snuffy ZL-J, B3 and B – Snuffy XO, B2 and E? – IC/D101.)
Which main body? For ZL J, I take a look at ‘cluster F’.
By looking at the cluster, and knowing the symbol/gemotery/language association the guardians hold, I take the paired triangles to represent two bodies that orbit each other (this should be true throughout the ruins site). The even number of paired triangles represents the number of pairs that exist. So, for ZL J, there should be 4 pairs of bodies that orbit each other. This is true in ZL J for 7/8, 9/10, 12/13, and 14/15.
Now for which pair to look at.
Looking further at the surrounding triangles (obelisks), one of them has two smaller pieces next to it. [edit* these two pieces are simply broken off the main obelisk and mean nothing] I take this to represent another pair for bodies orbiting the main body (this should be true throughout the ruins site). So, we’re can narrow it to a pair that also has a paired moon or moon moon pair. (LOL). Pair 7/8 and 12/13 fit this description. 7/8, and 7 in particular, has a two moons that orbit each other. 12/13 and 13 in particular, has a moon that has a moon of its own. However, I discount 13 because it has 3 orbiting moons, where as there are 4 surrounding triangles (moons) at the initial site cluster F. This leaves us looking at 7, which, while it has 5 moons, one is a pair, and could be considered one orbiting body.
So, which body at 7?
We note that obelisk “#2” and #4” light up when casket/casket and casket/totem combinations are nearby. [edit* #4 lights up with nothing in your SRV, and gives pattern Delta when scanned.] Thus, the body of interest is one that does NOT have the moon pair (“#1” in the cluster). Also, we can eliminate 7b because it is non landable. That leaves 7a or 7c. I am unsure of the significance of obelisk “#2” lighting up.
So we’re at 7a or 7c. Not sure which. Can we find the coords? And just check both?
Note that the casket and totem combo lights up “#4”, which is the body where the ruins lie. Perhaps significantly, there are only TWO other places that light with the casket/totem. (this should hold true for the other sites, and is the reason for the other obelisk clusters, to provide info on lat/long).
Cluster “G”, #33, and Cluster “H”, #20.
Perhaps these contain glyphs/something that indicate LAT and LONG? If so, that would leave two places, since we’re probably not sure which is LAT and which is LONG, on each body, 7a and 7c. That shouldn’t take long to search. [edit* None of the obelisks have any markings of any kind]
I am going to the initial site to look at G33 and H20 to see if there are any indications that could be LAT/LONG, and if so, going to ZL J at 7a/7c to look.
I just wanted to get this theory out there in case it helps or can lead to clues for the other systems.
Look at pic of triangles overlaid on initial site and relic antennae (pillar that rises when you get close).
Look at pic of triangles overlaid on gal map.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...9-The-Canonn?p=5066195&viewfull=1#post5066195
If this is taken as true, then the tip of the triangle on the gal map (zl j d10 119) coincides with the tip of the triangle antennae Iabled as B4 near cluster F as shown/labelled on map.
Look at pic of initial site map with B4 near cluster F.
https://imgur.com/a/RVZBN#6XexGII
(the other sites/antennae would match the other star systems and closest relic cluster contains info on that systems location for ruins…e.g B1 and A – IC/B2-4, B4 and F Snuffy ZL-J, B3 and B – Snuffy XO, B2 and E? – IC/D101.)
Which main body? For ZL J, I take a look at ‘cluster F’.
By looking at the cluster, and knowing the symbol/gemotery/language association the guardians hold, I take the paired triangles to represent two bodies that orbit each other (this should be true throughout the ruins site). The even number of paired triangles represents the number of pairs that exist. So, for ZL J, there should be 4 pairs of bodies that orbit each other. This is true in ZL J for 7/8, 9/10, 12/13, and 14/15.
Now for which pair to look at.
Looking further at the surrounding triangles (obelisks), one of them has two smaller pieces next to it. [edit* these two pieces are simply broken off the main obelisk and mean nothing] I take this to represent another pair for bodies orbiting the main body (this should be true throughout the ruins site). So, we’re can narrow it to a pair that also has a paired moon or moon moon pair. (LOL). Pair 7/8 and 12/13 fit this description. 7/8, and 7 in particular, has a two moons that orbit each other. 12/13 and 13 in particular, has a moon that has a moon of its own. However, I discount 13 because it has 3 orbiting moons, where as there are 4 surrounding triangles (moons) at the initial site cluster F. This leaves us looking at 7, which, while it has 5 moons, one is a pair, and could be considered one orbiting body.
So, which body at 7?
We note that obelisk “#2” and #4” light up when casket/casket and casket/totem combinations are nearby. [edit* #4 lights up with nothing in your SRV, and gives pattern Delta when scanned.] Thus, the body of interest is one that does NOT have the moon pair (“#1” in the cluster). Also, we can eliminate 7b because it is non landable. That leaves 7a or 7c. I am unsure of the significance of obelisk “#2” lighting up.
So we’re at 7a or 7c. Not sure which. Can we find the coords? And just check both?
Note that the casket and totem combo lights up “#4”, which is the body where the ruins lie. Perhaps significantly, there are only TWO other places that light with the casket/totem. (this should hold true for the other sites, and is the reason for the other obelisk clusters, to provide info on lat/long).
Cluster “G”, #33, and Cluster “H”, #20.
Perhaps these contain glyphs/something that indicate LAT and LONG? If so, that would leave two places, since we’re probably not sure which is LAT and which is LONG, on each body, 7a and 7c. That shouldn’t take long to search. [edit* None of the obelisks have any markings of any kind]
I am going to the initial site to look at G33 and H20 to see if there are any indications that could be LAT/LONG, and if so, going to ZL J at 7a/7c to look.
I just wanted to get this theory out there in case it helps or can lead to clues for the other systems.
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Does it show up as a blue POI area, or a USS? I've never seen anything like that. What altitude?
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I realise that this is a brute force search, but cannot imagine that FDev wouldn't add some finesse or touch to it... although that may just be 'flying around planet' dementia kicking in. I re-read Ram Tah's latest statement today to check I wasn't missing something... and it has given me a task to do. I am posting it up here in case others have tried it.
Ram said: ""Locating these sites is of central importance to our ongoing research, which is why I am encouraging the galactic community to explore these systems. Together, we can further our understanding of this fascinating race."
I wonder if this could mean to explore (i.e. scan) the systems and take the data back to him? After all, the mission itself (appearing at the station without needing to do anything) is odd in itself.
I realise its probably a long shot but will post up the results...
Ram said: ""Locating these sites is of central importance to our ongoing research, which is why I am encouraging the galactic community to explore these systems. Together, we can further our understanding of this fascinating race."
I wonder if this could mean to explore (i.e. scan) the systems and take the data back to him? After all, the mission itself (appearing at the station without needing to do anything) is odd in itself.
I realise its probably a long shot but will post up the results...
Braintrees. This needs tobe the official name for them.
Well done whoever found them.
Seems like the MKI eyeball can pay off.
Well done whoever found them.
Seems like the MKI eyeball can pay off.
Funny how peeps saw these and thought "brain trees" rather than "giant raspberry tree". Lol - guess it's the alien influence.
One of the principles of ED is that the community writes the story, right? Even if FD doesn't call them brain trees right now, they should adopt this name.
A few commanders have already done this, and it did not do anything beyond give them the scan credits.
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