I done this also as i visited each site the passed few days. And noticed the pattern going above the galactic plane. That was my first search area for this "Earth like world". Bu alas.. nothing yet. Going to head back there in a few minutes though to have another search.
THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)
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I done this also as i visited each site the passed few days. And noticed the pattern going above the galactic plane. That was my first search area for this "Earth like world". Bu alas.. nothing yet. Going to head back there in a few minutes though to have another search.
I got that wrong!
I initially tried to enter glide but you could drop out at any altitude and it'll render it in, so long as you're within distance.
I think it's best to be as close to the ground as possible though. Like on my trip from orbit to surface, I went literally straight down, didn't enter the glide and it worked
And untouchable technically by everyone except the Emperor and Chancellor, do they know, are they behind it, there'd be a plethora of uncomfortable unknowns for anyone to go after Delaney for this,,,you'd need better than a tunnel in Paris,,,
Time to re-read for the Delaney-Kahina connection, ostensibly a familial connection wasn't it along with Imperial interest in Prism.
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I always go to @Matzov when I need information on the Empire.
I'd be surprised if the Emperor was involved - he could just have nix'd the trial and left Kahina free.
Plus, if the Emperor wanted the Rift mystery public, he would just announce it,
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Just to sound as snarky as possible, how would you see if there where settlement lights on the dark side of the planet, from greater than 1000 ls away
Good eyesight?
lol , but good point, was rush reading it so I can get out of this forum & back to space! Ah got ya.
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(Opps, ok so it wasn't clear in here, but I am updating this list as players report back to me. Please PM with ELW search results as I don't have time to keep up with this thread).
Unsearched ELWs 'near' the 4 beacons (thanks to Edelgard von Rhein & kenworth for a major chunk of this list
) :-It seems we need to fully explore these systems*, the beacon is likely to be 'some' distance away from the ELW.
*Seeing as the known Unregistered Comm's Beacons can be detected in the navigation panel only within a distance of 1000 Ls, we need to get at least within 1000 Ls of all bodies within ELW systems.
System name - Distance to Eafots EU-R C4-1
Eafots OD-I d10-1 A 4 Eafots OD-I d10-1 Earth-like world 1,870 ls 913.92 ly
Eafots HD-R D5-1
Eafots JA-A D10 5 (possibly scanned by Gypsy12, tbd)
Eafots ELW systems already searched 'near' to the 4 rift beacons :-
System name - Searched by - Distance from Eafots EU-R C4-1
Eafots KL-Y D2 A8 - Massbstruction
Eafots OC-V d2-2 - Mal604
Eafots NW-W d1-0. (Binary pair of ELW's, planets 1 and 2) - kenworth
Eafots IK-Z C0 2 - G4RY & eadghe - 195.73 LYs
Eafots EK-A D0 5 - G4RY
Eafots CK-A D7 - G4RY
Eafots QM-M C7-2 - G4RY
Eafots HB-N C7-0 - G4RY
Eafots CQ-Y D3 12 - JOEL KOSMO
Eafots LY-Y D2 - Barking Mad
Eafots ZI-3 D3-12 - stocko1111
Eafots YO-Z D1 - Yuksarr,G4RY, & Assimilator1 (C&D stars
). (You need a 57.5+ LY jump range for this one. Thanks to G4RY for the info).Eafots NX-T C3-0 - DrewCarnegie
Eafots LW-W d1-2 6 - G4RY & Assimilator1
Eafots JQ-Y d0 A 3 - Assimilator1
Eafots NN-Q D6-0 - jpinkston70
Eafots BK-R D4-7 - Dead Reckoning
Eafots CZ-I C9-0 - Dead Reckoning
Eafots HV-G C10-1 - Dead Reckoning
Eafots EZ-I c9-0 - Dead Reckoning
Eafots SC-D c12-1 - Dead Reckoning
Eafots DJ-T C3-2 - Ishmair
Eafots DL-Y D6-3 - Assimilator1
Eafots CQ-Y D3 - Assimilator1 (& partially by Spocks oddsocks & Edelgard von Rhein)
Eafots SP-W B15-0 - Assimilator1
Eafots ND-S D4-1 - Assimilator1
Eafots ND-S D4-3 - Assimilator1
Eafots SL-R B33-1 - jpinkston70
Eafots MR-N D6-1 - jpinkston70
Eafots EF-A D7 - Assimilator1
Eafots UC-M C7-1 - Ishmair
Eafots QC-V D2-6 - Ishmair
Eafots VY-Z D0 - Assimilator1 - 609.89 LYs (min 66.67 LY jump to get to an adjacent system!)
Eafots SS-B D0 3 - Assimilator1 - 626.41 LYs (min 64.13 LY jump to get to a nearby system, actually, their maybe another route in with a smaller jump distance)
Eafots GK-A D7 - Assimilator1 - 256.56 LYs
Eafots FZ-S d3-32 A 6 - Assimilator1 - 599.59 LYs
Eafots XE-R D4-6 4 - HazardousMatt
Eafots TC-M D7-22 B 1 - Assimilator1 - 724.03 LYs
Eafots TW-U C16-8 A5 - Assimilator1 - 800 LYs
Eafots OC-M D7-7 A 4 Eafots - Assimilator1 - 473.70 LYs (B star is over 560k Ls from the A star!)
Eafots XY-Z C13-2 B 4 - Assimilator1 - 436.64 LYs
Eafots LS-K D8-2 10 - Assimilator1 (& G4RY) - 586.22 LYs
Eafots GC-D D12-74 A 4 - Assimilator1 - 864.24 LYs
Eafots GC-D D12-59 6 - Assimilator1 - 868.49 LYs
Eafots GI-B D13-13 5 - Assimilator1 - 1082 LYs
Eafots GI-B D13-28 B7 - Assimilator1 - 1066 LYs
Eafots GI-B D13-60 B4 - Assimilator1 - 1041 LYs
Eafots VB-W B15-1 - Ishmair -
Eafots XV-E D11-57 - Assimilator1 - 920.22 LYs
Eafots AW-E D11-35 - Assimilator1 - 858.29 LYs
Eafots LN-S C17-7 - Assimilator1 - 614.69 LYs (btw, this 1 is just ~25 LYs away from a Neutron star)
Eafots DF-G C24-6 - Several - 1018.33 LYs
Eafots XX-S C17-3 - Several - 758.24 LYs
Eafots XI-K D8-40 (CDE 1 12,056 ls!) - Several - 799.78 LYs
Eafots FI-R C18-2 - eadghe - 656.62 LYs
Eafots HW-E D11-54 - Assimilator1 - 867 LYs
Eafots UO-Z D13-111 - Assimilator1 - ~1093 LYs
Eafots RI-B D13-98 - Assimilator1 - 1050 LYs
Eafots PT-Z D13-56 - Assimilator1 - 1,007 LYs
Eafots UD-K D8-64 - Assimilator1 - 568 LYs (ELW is ~257k Ls from the A star! And this system is just 19.1 LYs away from a Neutron star)
Eafots MM-M D7-24 - Assimilator1 - 595 LYs
Some non-Eafots ELW systems (*beyond 1300 LYs)
Hypoae Ain RK-F D11-17 - Assimilator1 - 1083 LYs
Hypoae Aim SQ-P c5-1 1038,21 - eadghe
Hypoae Aim CT-B c13-1 888,00 - eadghe
Chi Persei Sector TP-V c3-2 586,54 - eadghe
Chi Persei Sector QO-X c2-0 577,83 - eadghe
*Schee Hypue PC-M C10-0 2 - JesusRocks1988
*Myoidee AL-M C21-0 6 - JesusRocks1988
Scheau Phoe UY-R d4-2 3 - Malcotch - 1125 LYs
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Formidine Rift Delta Mission 6/6
Expedition Log: 29/11/3270
"I've had time to accept it now. I went out as normal with one of the beacons, set it up. Had that weird power loss again. I waited and it all came back online like before. Signalled my support ship - no response. Flew back and it was gone, just debris. No survivors. Don't know what happened. It's just me and this crappy Sidewinder a zillion miles from home. Should have known it wasn't going to work out. If it's too good to be true.... There's an Earth-like world there, going to try and reach it ... you never know.
Pay VERY close attention to the highlighted bits.
A: She set another beacon up.
B: In a system with an Earth-Like World.
It mentions nothing about travelling. Also, There is a beacon in system. She probably spent the time grieving and pulling herself together.
So: We need to find an Earth like within a 200ly radius? That has a Beacon in it.
Expedition Log: 29/11/3270
"I've had time to accept it now. I went out as normal with one of the beacons, set it up. Had that weird power loss again. I waited and it all came back online like before. Signalled my support ship - no response. Flew back and it was gone, just debris. No survivors. Don't know what happened. It's just me and this crappy Sidewinder a zillion miles from home. Should have known it wasn't going to work out. If it's too good to be true.... There's an Earth-like world there, going to try and reach it ... you never know.
Pay VERY close attention to the highlighted bits.
A: She set another beacon up.
B: In a system with an Earth-Like World.
It mentions nothing about travelling. Also, There is a beacon in system. She probably spent the time grieving and pulling herself together.
So: We need to find an Earth like within a 200ly radius? That has a Beacon in it.
Yep, agreed
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Just 1 thing, you're repeating a typo (I've PM'ed Zach about it btw), it should say ELW here, not there.
Folks, please post the ELWs you have searched within 200 LYs of EAFOTS EU-R C4-1.
I'll update my list, until/if Zach takes over
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I don't want to waste time searching ones already done!
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Just 1 thing, you're repeating a typo (I've PM'ed Zach about it btw), it should say ELW here, not there.
Folks, please post the ELWs you have searched within 200 LYs of EAFOTS EU-R C4-1.
I'll update my list, until/if Zach takes over
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I don't want to waste time searching ones already done!
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And orbited by a moon? I remember that one of the characters was able to see the Earthlike world from a moon (so close, yet so far) and was trying to find a way to reach it?
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Fixed the typo.
If you link me your edited list of ELW's so far, I'll link to that from the front page, instead of taking it over. Don't want too many overheads so early on.....
Incidentally, would a 200Ly bubble from the beacons/seach initiated system take you to the very top of the galaxy? (I say top as EAFORTS doesn't reach to the bottom IIRC)
If you link me your edited list of ELW's so far, I'll link to that from the front page, instead of taking it over. Don't want too many overheads so early on.....
Incidentally, would a 200Ly bubble from the beacons/seach initiated system take you to the very top of the galaxy? (I say top as EAFORTS doesn't reach to the bottom IIRC)
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Yep, agreed
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Just 1 thing, you're repeating a typo (I've PM'ed Zach about it btw), it should say ELW here, not there.
Folks, please post the ELWs you have searched within 200 LYs of EAFOTS EU-R C4-1.
I'll update my list, until/if Zach takes over
.
I don't want to waste time searching ones already done!
Eafots NW-W d1-0. Binary pair of ELW's (planets 1 and 2)
That’s outstanding work commander, simply outstanding. In our lack of effective tools for exploration you’ve scienced the **!>$!* out of this and devised your own tools and method. That is honestly some of the best science I’ve seen in Elite yet!
Well done sir, well done.
@lorrad et al.
This is what I put in my last paper on Delaney:
On a truly speculative note, I hazard to guess that Delaney might be a Walden clone (and has perhaps told Kahina of her true nature - that could be why she trusts him so).
Which segues nicely to the hardest of those questions…
Does she know, and when did she find out? If she knows then it can only be one of two possible ways, and apologies if this is blindingly obvious
She has worked it out for herself - whether her ‘outsider’ nature has made her doubt herself and look for answers, or whether she stumbled across the answer within those databanks that the Old Woman told her to uncover.
Someone told her - really for which the only outstanding candidate is Delaney. He is the only character on the face of things, linked directly to her, with what one would assume is the necessary seniority to know. And what gives agency to this argument, and to the idea that he is a Walden clone of some sort, is a small snippet from a GalNet article.
“Cuthrick Delaney, ambassador to the Prism system, has had a long and varied career within the Empire, first coming to prominence during the events which ended the dictatorship of Dr. Walden on the Old World planet of Lave. His precise involvement in that event was unclear, and he seems to have lost none of his ability to stay close to those with power in the intervening time. He has been seen in conversation with Kahina on many occasions.”
That, as far as I can tell, is the only background we have to Delaney in GalNet. But it certainly suggests he knows secrets, and if anyone would know if Kahina was a Waldenkind, then it would be him, regardless of whether or not he was a clone himself.
This is what I put in my last paper on Delaney:
On a truly speculative note, I hazard to guess that Delaney might be a Walden clone (and has perhaps told Kahina of her true nature - that could be why she trusts him so).
Which segues nicely to the hardest of those questions…
Does she know, and when did she find out? If she knows then it can only be one of two possible ways, and apologies if this is blindingly obvious
She has worked it out for herself - whether her ‘outsider’ nature has made her doubt herself and look for answers, or whether she stumbled across the answer within those databanks that the Old Woman told her to uncover.
Someone told her - really for which the only outstanding candidate is Delaney. He is the only character on the face of things, linked directly to her, with what one would assume is the necessary seniority to know. And what gives agency to this argument, and to the idea that he is a Walden clone of some sort, is a small snippet from a GalNet article.
“Cuthrick Delaney, ambassador to the Prism system, has had a long and varied career within the Empire, first coming to prominence during the events which ended the dictatorship of Dr. Walden on the Old World planet of Lave. His precise involvement in that event was unclear, and he seems to have lost none of his ability to stay close to those with power in the intervening time. He has been seen in conversation with Kahina on many occasions.”
That, as far as I can tell, is the only background we have to Delaney in GalNet. But it certainly suggests he knows secrets, and if anyone would know if Kahina was a Waldenkind, then it would be him, regardless of whether or not he was a clone himself.
I think you're on to something. Maybe a flyby of each planet in systems with ELW to see if there are beacons orbiting them?
Looks like you might be a good candidate to review our new front page and see if anything is missing. As the Salome story clearly involves other characters from the Empire, they should be covered in our timeline of related events? Anything with links you provide would be a great help!
Folks. I'll be joining DJTruthsayer's twitch stream tonight if you want to pop in for Q&A. (But I won't give you 'the answer'
https://www.twitch.tv/djtruthsayer
Cheers,
Drew.
Is there a time for this? "Tonight" means many different things in different timezones
I'd say not, hmm....
Ok, my ELW searched list https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ERY-(Part-4)?p=5068355&viewfull=1#post5068355
list of systems I checked out today. https://www.edsm.net/en/user/flight-logs/id/12980/cmdr/Ishmair
Is there a time for this? "Tonight" means many different things in different timezones
Sorry. 8pm GMT. Which is... er... now.
Cheers,
Drew