THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

2.2) But where else could the co-ordinates be found besides GalNet? Is there any other means of consistant reliable information being given to players?

Kudos on referring to Galnet as a 'consistent and reliable' information source

The problem I've always found with the Rift mystery is that there's no way to make the game aware that you're following the 'quest'.
You can visit systems, read the local Galnet, get allied with factions - but none of these things appear to have had any affect. Not just for me, but for anyone. So why do them, when you can wait for the next information to be spoonfed to you by FDev?

If there was any feedback, at any point, that indicated that you'd done something right, or looked in the right place, then it would encourage people to DO things, rather than either wait passively or randomly scan systems in the hopes of finding something.

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I keep thinking back to a comment Drew made quite some time ago, about how having access to the Sol system could be helpful. We've never actually figured out what that meant, have we? Maybe our missing step is somewhere in the Sol system, possibly with the new outer planets that were added some time ago. I just can't imagine what could be there to find though, I know I've been to all of those new planets.

One of the new planets is called Persephone.
That has a resonance with the Rift story.
Unfortunately, there is no way to interact with Persephone other than randomly driving around the surface (which is apparently NOT the way we're supposed to find things), so it remains nothing more than a "Well, that's interesting"

 

[Cmdr Zach]

Well, it just so happens I'm quickly becoming an expert on rift related Galnet posts, as I'm working through updating the front page.

Remember the old cobra at the Tionisla graveyard? The message it was transmitting wa a code, that ENDED with plain EAFOTS looped. The code was decoded over at Canonn and it was one of the Dynasty beacon locations.....as well outpost planet AND coordinates!

Yep, it's true. But there was a crash to desktop when the site was reached, and it was forgotten. Want to bet there are more breadcrumbs scattered around in local galnets?

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There's still some unresolved mysteries on the Threadnaught. I'm thinking primarily of the Jupiter/Lave/Eravate number beacon that leads to that system map. I don't think that's been solved yet.

There were also hints from Drew that the ships used to attack Salome's prison convoy were notable (Greek nymphs), as were the 7 Sisters and 7 Veils. With the hyperdictions being tied not only to Dynasty but the 7 Sisters (Pleiades, also Greek nymphs) maybe there's something out there that we're missing. Maybe should add Maia and Merope to the Galnet systems too.

Did someone mention a new satellite around earths moon somewhere too?

 

[CrunchyBaton955]

Did someone mention a new satellite around earths moon somewhere too?

Yeah, I had forgotten about that. I don't remember who it was, but I do remember seeing that.

 

[mossfoot]

Well, it just so happens I'm quickly becoming an expert on rift related Galnet posts, as I'm working through updating the front page.

Remember the old cobra at the Tionisla graveyard? The message it was transmitting wa a code, that ENDED with plain EAFORTS looped. The code was decoded over at Canonn and it was one of the Dynasty beacon locations.....as well outpost planet AND coordinates!

Yep, it's true. But there was a crash to desktop when the site was reached, and it was forgotten. Want to bet there are more breadcrumbs scattered around in local galnets?

That sounds like something to work with!

To DrewCarnegie, when I referred to GalNet as consistant and reliable, I meant we could dismiss things like USSs and standard POIs as providing information. Whatever is out there needs to be persistant, so GalNet counts insofar as it does what it's supposed to do and is always accessible.

Back to Zach - this code was found on GalNet, correct? You didn't have to scan an old Cobra in Tionisla, I assume?

They haven't added the graveyard to Tionisla yet, have they? I heard them saying that was something that might happen eventually.

If it was on Galnet, that was galaxy-wide Galent, but I don't recall anyone else talking about other codes on GalNet.

A good place to start might be the various stations in Tionisla for their local GalNet broadcasts?

 

[Codger]

Seems to me the portals/gates are not the structures with the ramps, they are the big gateway/archway things at the end of each base. Tire tracks go up to them, but not through them. We just need to power them up. Or carry something. Or be in Open mode, in a Corvette. I don't know. It's just weird how the tire tracks end there.

 

[Cmdr Zach]

Back to Zach - this code was found on GalNet, correct? You didn't have to scan an old Cobra in Tionisla, I assume?

They haven't added the graveyard to Tionisla yet, have they? I heard them saying that was something that might happen eventually.

If it was on Galnet, that was galaxy-wide Galent, but I don't recall anyone else talking about other codes on GalNet.

A good place to start might be the various stations in Tionisla for their local GalNet broadcasts?

Yep, was in global Galnet. Check out front page! (Near bottom of the timeline)
Nope, Tionisla not in game afaik. Did try to ask Drew during his twitch interview today but it wasn't reached. (My other 3 questions were though so can't complain).

Drew has said "some" of his Galnet posts have been missed in local regional news. Would be good to have all likely Suspect locations rechecked for local news. Including Maia and the list a few pages back.

 

[Cmdr Zach]

Seems to me the portals/gates are not the structures with the ramps, they are the big gateway/archway things at the end of each base. Tire tracks go up to them, but not through them. We just need to power them up. Or carry something. Or be in Open mode, in a Corvette. I don't know. It's just weird how the tire tracks end there.

I think the space madness has got to a lot of you. Portals to other systems? This isn't stargate, this is elite. If portals were functioning 30 years ago this would be a bigger story than Raxxla. Why send a fleet, instead of one ship with a portal and just chuck everything you need through it?

An entrance makes a home. "Welcome to Milton Keynes" sign etc. That place in the desert had one in the force awakens. The tire tracks go nowhere because it's an "outpost" model slapped onto a planet. Check out the known outposts around the bubble. Same. Bet even the writing on the gate is the same.

Sorry, really shoulda gone to bed hours ago. Way too long editing the front page today!

 

[Vanslyke]

Seems to me the portals/gates are not the structures with the ramps, they are the big gateway/archway things at the end of each base. Tire tracks go up to them, but not through them. We just need to power them up. Or carry something. Or be in Open mode, in a Corvette. I don't know. It's just weird how the tire tracks end there.

Yes, these archways at the end of each base are what drew was refering to in the video. I believe it has already been checked however and the markings seem to be the same on all of them indicating its just ascetics.

I think the space madness has got to a lot of you. Portals to other systems? This isn't stargate, this is elite. If portals were functioning 30 years ago this would be a bigger story than Raxxla. Why send a fleet, instead of one ship with a portal and just chuck everything you need through it?

An entrance makes a home. "Welcome to Milton Keynes" sign etc. That place in the desert had one in the force awakens. The tire tracks go nowhere because it's an "outpost" model slapped onto a planet. Check out the known outposts around the bubble. Same. Bet even the writing on the gate is the same.

Sorry, really shoulda gone to bed hours ago. Way too long editing the front page today!

I agree that portals don't make sense, I think I might have mentioned that earlier. I apologize if I made us chase our own tail for a moment, I was just hoping it might contain whatever clues we seem to be missing as there don't seem to be a lot of other places to look :/

 

[Moraes]

So, thinking in terms of breadcrumbs, in a manner that I hope will inspire lateral thought:

1) The mystery started with the CG that lead to these three zones (Fromidine, Conflux, Hawking's).

2) Those zones led to the discovery of compromised beacons, indicating the planetary location of mission rally points.

3) The mystery ends (for now) with the discovery of these bases and the information those bases provide. (Note, it's entirely possible that all the logs will actually lead to something even bigger, but we're not there yet).

4) We've been told that we missed a step by brute forcing the discovery of this end point.



Assuming I haven't missed anything, then that means we missed something between 2) and 3). But where could that be?



Theories so far:

1) the compromised beacons have more information than we first assumed (Embedded in the sound? Physically on the beacon?)

2) the planetary coordinate are found separately from another source. If so, where?

2.1) One theory is that they could be hidden as GalNet articles, most likely in a local system. But which one? So far contenders listed are:
Tionisla
Persephone
Avalon (Persephone Station)
Ishtar (Inanna / Seven Veils)
Ereshkigal (Babylonian equivalent of Persephone)
Prism
Sol
Wherever Salome was going to be locked up

2.2) But where else could the co-ordinates be found besides GalNet? Is there any other means of consistant reliable information being given to players?

Do not forget REORTE and RIEDQUAT in the list, possible starting points of the expedition

 

[mossfoot]

Yep, was in global Galnet. Check out front page! (Near bottom of the timeline)
Nope, Tionisla not in game afaik. Did try to ask Drew during his twitch interview today but it wasn't reached. (My other 3 questions were though so can't complain).

Drew has said "some" of his Galnet posts have been missed in local regional news. Would be good to have all likely Suspect locations rechecked for local news. Including Maia and the list a few pages back.

Yeah, I think we need a bubble-based team scouring local GalNet sources at likely candidate systems.

Tionisla exists (it's in the Old Worlds, just checked the map) just no graveyard. But there are three stations and two planet cities to check out!

Note - there is also an asteroid belt near the sun... you know the kind of thing NOBODY checks out anymore because they're not worth mining? But are persistant. Seems like the perfect place to hide something.

 

[hhiram]

It's interesting that the Delta logs are by a woman.

From what I can remember, there are two original clues from Elite: Reclamation about the Rift. One comes from some old guy, and one comes from Salome/Kahina/old woman (I've always assumed they're all the same person - maybe I'm wrong?).

It would make sense that these two were the survivors of this expedition hinted at in the logs.

 

[Jaiotu]

Formidine Rift Delta Mission 6/6

Expedition Log: 29/11/3270

"I've had time to accept it now. I went out as normal with one of the beacons, set it up. Had that weird power loss again. I waited and it all came back online like before. Signalled my support ship - no response. Flew back and it was gone, just debris. No survivors. Don't know what happened. It's just me and this crappy Sidewinder a zillion miles from home. Should have known it wasn't going to work out. If it's too good to be true.... There's an Earth-like world there, going to try and reach it ... you never know.

Pay VERY close attention to the highlighted bits.

A: She set another beacon up.
B: In a system with an Earth-Like World.

It mentions nothing about travelling. Also, There is a beacon in system. She probably spent the time grieving and pulling herself together.

So: We need to find an Earth like within a 200ly radius? That has a Beacon in it.

Quick correction. The ELW that the Sidewinder pilot tried to reach was not necessarily in the same system that she deployed the beacon in. She signaled her support ship and, after receiving no response, flew back to discover nothing but debris. The ELW would have been in whatever system the support ship had been in. It could be that they were both in the same system at the time ... but that isn't a guarantee.

 

[hhiram]

4) We've been told that we missed a step by brute forcing the discovery of this end point.


Where did we hear about this?

 

[Jaiotu]

It's interesting that the Delta logs are by a woman.

From what I can remember, there are two original clues from Elite: Reclamation about the Rift. One comes from some old guy, and one comes from Salome/Kahina/old woman (I've always assumed they're all the same person - maybe I'm wrong?).

It would make sense that these two were the survivors of this expedition hinted at in the logs.

All the clues came from the same source: The Old Woman. First clue was given to Kahina when she met the woman at a hospital. The second clue was in a holofac recording that Kahina accessed in the book's epilogue.

 

[mossfoot]

4) We've been told that we missed a step by brute forcing the discovery of this end point.


Where did we hear about this?

By Drew himself, you'll have to look back in the thread about that or check the front page (which I assume mentions it).

 

[mossfoot]

Okay, I'm going to focus on trying to find the Gamma beacon in Conflux for now... this new approach in Tionisla might yield better results if anyone goes there, but that won't help us find the last outpost unless we have a planet to search!

 

[lorrad]

By Drew himself, you'll have to look back in the thread about that or check the front page (which I assume mentions it).

It was from the podcast https://www.twitch.tv/djtruthsayer he was on yesterday saying some thing to the effect we could have figured out the planetary coordinates from something we missed or something about as vague as this.

 

[Melvosh]

Going on Drew saying we missed some galnet stuff...please read the galnet article on 19th nov 3302....meta drive audit complete...
It says that some exodus documents were missing and then a ex employee stole a ship and crashed in the alioth system...
Did he have on board information related like locations?
Has anyone followed this up before ?

 

[Baton]

Going on Drew saying we missed some galnet stuff...please read the galnet article on 19th nov 3302....meta drive audit complete...
It says that some exodus documents were missing and then a ex employee stole a ship and crashed in the alioth system...
Did he have on board information related like locations?
Has anyone followed this up before ?

I like your line of thinking on this one.

 

[Jaiotu]

Going on Drew saying we missed some galnet stuff...please read the galnet article on 19th nov 3302....meta drive audit complete...
It says that some exodus documents were missing and then a ex employee stole a ship and crashed in the alioth system...
Did he have on board information related like locations?
Has anyone followed this up before ?

The ex-Employee was Raan Corsen. The only person in Alioth to witness Corsen's crash was CMDR Ashley Wilkinson. I participated in the event vicariously as I was winged up with CMDR Ashley Wilkinson, CMDR Moonweb and Raan Corsen but I was at Jaques at the time. Everything I know about Corsen's last moments before the crash comes from monitoring the even over The Earth Defense Fleet's Teamspeak. Corsen never chatted to the wing so we only have Wilkinson's reports to tell us what was said and seen.

Wilkinson reported his take on the events in the Oct 12, 2016 edition of Lave Radio.

The only clue that the Corsen investigation gave, iirc, was the "Exodus" code word used to unlock the message of the beacons (though I think someone worked out the code word by brute force prior to it being published in Galnet). It does present possibilities that there is a connection between Metadrive, Sirius Corporation and the settlements in the Rift, Conflux and Gap.