Yes I thought the same. But I've considered also that planets rotate, therefore every point can be aligned in a certain moment.
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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Yes I thought the same. But I've considered also that planets rotate, therefore every point can be aligned in a certain moment.
Confirmed, FD are Thargoids.
I have just been sat thinking about this whilst waiting for my daughter to finish her ballet lesson (getting funny looks because I also have a paper printout of the ruins map and lots of paper with calculations on them
).The simplest method to find intersecting objects is to wait at the ruins and see what objects pass directly overhead at the surface normal (90° straight up).
Unfortunately, from my time spent looking into the various factors, I'm fairly confident that none of the local bodies do this.
However, one of Ram Tah's 'clues' is about the look of the waxing and waning moon. I don't recall seeing the moon (when viewed from the ruins) appear to have any terminator (the line between lit and shadow portions). Anyone got any shots showing it?
Anyway, my point in mentioning it is that the site may not be positioned directly at an intersection of the arcs of stellar objects, but instead at such a position that the moon (and perhaps local star?) arc over the sky in a "Guardian-familiar" way. Calculating the correct point for this is tricky but not impossible.
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If we're considering astronomical alignments I've noticed a severe wall in many folk's conclusions, we seem to be stuck at 2 dimensional map theories, which are nice I suppose but any pictorial theory picks out what looks familiar and discounts anything else that can't be explained. If the ruins is in any way a map, then it may well be a representation of a certain system, but it may well be the depiction of a navigational process we can use to "divine" the location or at very least the planetary body of one or possibly all of the sites.
The compass and binary theories have been the only two put forward that actually tried to look at it in a new way. FD have said that everything we need to solve this puzzle and finding the locations is in the game, no spreadsheets required, no photoshop, no pen and paper, no calculator; it's this ruin and what we can infer from it - no other tools necessary.
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Well gentlemen, after spending the last week looking at dirt from a mile up, I'm going to spend the weekend with other games, and/or farming the hell out of this broken, tedious, unrewarding quest.
I suggest you all do the same. O7
I suggest you all do the same. O7
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Where do you get this? DB has said before that puzzles should be solvable with pen and paper, which contradicts what you assert. We've since had puzzles that include spectograms, which I doubt you could work out 'in game'. I'd really not have thought we could solve the artefact -> obelisk mapping without a spreadsheet or 6
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One last so-stupid-it-might-work idea. Has anyone just, sat at the end of the point on the circle compass thingamuhjigger and seen if it lines up with any of the other systems during it's rotation?
I'm just spitballing here but if anyone has something like Universe Sandbox they could map out the systems and their orbit patterns using the information from scans and see if there's any sort of similarity between systems that could narrow things down?
I would respectfully disagree. Lots of puzzles in games require outside tools, pen and paper being the simplest. And other puzzles in ED have required more complex tools, like spectrograms. All the clues might be there, yes. But we need to find all the clues to help solve the puzzle. And having records and values written down saves time, as you do not have to constantly do that part of the puzzle over and over to receive the same data.
Where do you get this? DB has said before that puzzles should be solvable with pen and paper, which contradicts what you assert. We've since had puzzles that include spectograms, which I doubt you could work out 'in game'. I'd really not have thought we could solve the artefact -> obelisk mapping without a spreadsheet or 6
Pen & paper?
I've already contacted friends over at the MIT to help me out
[video=youtube;GDOkE66_Q4o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDOkE66_Q4o[/video]
It's a nice idea, and one I've spent some time watching over, my latest theory being that the directions to the 4 new systems may line with the troughs around the larger circle, but even if they did line up, there is nothing to suggest how far you would have to travel in that direction. Unless the number of obelisks in a group can be scaled into a number of light years that match our distances - haven't gotten that far yet.
I have done similar, asking my father, who works with communications every day, several engineers at my college and others who have knowledge of astronomy and the like
There's a simple elegance to this that keeps me coming back to it. Once I've got the Sirius permit later today I think I'll have a trundle out there and have a scout around.
This is good science - Theory+method+results, & shared here for the common good. I think someone already posted something similar, but no matter; independent researchers often come up with similar results at around the same time.
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This is all true, but you miss my point - FD said that we don't need them for this puzzle, alot of people's time and energy is going into pushing theories that require the application of tools outside of the game, making them immediate dead ends. While tools are useful regardless, if your idea of what the ruins means relies on manipulating an image of the ruins to make sense of it, it may well be incorrect.
From what I understand we should be able to simply sit above ruins and look down at it - and work out exactly where we need to go. (While I've recorded a multitude of combination data and played with the image, none of that is going to help us find the next ruins besides the soul crushing, time consuming recording of coordinate sweep spreadsheets.)
Hence, my PSA about boxes, and thinking outside them. The answer is right in front of us, I'm starting to feel like an idiot.
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Of course he could actually be correct-UPreport ammonia world characteristics to somewhere in Col70, Wreaken are doing something in Col70 & it's permit locked. Wreaken are protected by Sirius corporation who are close to the Feds...
So maybe Wreaken are actually Thargoids & are trying to : (a) find survivors of their previous dealings with humans (b) manipulate humanity into revealing its technological secrets and into a weak tactical position prior to invasion (c) both of the above. Sirius may be complicit in these plans (maybe infiltrated by Walden clones?
All speculation at the moment!!!
"FD said that we don't need them for this puzzle...". Source of this information please ?
I searched for this kind of statement from FD all over the web and didnt find anything.
Taking this at face value, it reminds me of a suggestion I made a short while back..
The large circle, the central ridge and the short piece look like the handle of a key, which might be what Exo is referring to.
Edit: Or.. the wedge shape to the left of the large circle looks like a keyhole, when combined with the circle and the central ridge could be the key coming out of that hole.
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