Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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As stated already, having the same layout is fine and may be for a reason. However having the same "damage over time" copy and pasted to this site is just lazy development and very immersion breaking.
Given how many confirmed bugs there are it is not unreasonable for people to feel disheartened and start to call out possible bugs that are as yet unconfirmed/denied. I think FDEV owe it to the hard working community to speak out on some of the common issues and confirm they are by design or bugs without giving away any of the mystery.
LOL this was the only and first system I flew to a few days ago, and I've been parked on that moon for days now not having loaded the game because I simply couldn't be bothered spending all that time looking for a needle in a haystack. 
Well done to the CMDR who found it. Kudos!
Well done to the CMDR who found it. Kudos!
Anyone check if the B1 pillar in the first site is also at an angle?
I know you're all ignoring it because it breaks your copy/paste worldview but c'mon - for science
(B1 - on top of the big circle)
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I think Ive come up with something that might work. What i was thinking since friday is that the circle in the top represents a top down view of the planet and the circle in the bottom represents the side of the planet. I suspect the relic and orbs to triangulate in such a way with something to give us the coordinates were searching for. because both of these objects are place like the planets orientation on the galactic map.
Here is a image for my explanation.
on the top circle I first thought the zero reference(aka the yellow line in my drawing) to be the axis of movement. however that is for my new theory incorrect and the blue line is this axis of movement for the planet. If i measure the angle between this blue line and the relic. then i get a angle of ~ 31. assuming that the stripes in the ruins mean the area from which the sunlight comes this should then be - ~-31. It also tells us that this side is the negative side.
Looking at the bottom circle the orbs represent the the coordinates on the side. Triangulate the red line with the orb which represents the planet were searching for. then we get a angle of ~29. not knowing what could tell us this side is the negative side but knowing that the new ruins are on the negative side, we can assume this is the negative side.
Also I now think that the pyramid close to the relic represents that there is a moon close to the planet were the ruins are on. For the one in the middle in the top circle which then should be Synuefe XO-P c22-17. The pyramid could tell us that the planet were searching for orbits around a other one and the other 2 are lonely planets without moons.
Ofc the one who pinpointed the objects on that map could have put them slightly in the wrong place.
Then applying this theory to the other planets we get:
Synuefe XO-P c22-17: (~-2,~91)
Synuefe ZL-J d10-119: (~122.5,~-117)
IC 2391 Sector ZE-A d101: (~-12,~5)
of course this theory could be as much as the one next guy. But lets give it a shot!
Here is a image for my explanation.
on the top circle I first thought the zero reference(aka the yellow line in my drawing) to be the axis of movement. however that is for my new theory incorrect and the blue line is this axis of movement for the planet. If i measure the angle between this blue line and the relic. then i get a angle of ~ 31. assuming that the stripes in the ruins mean the area from which the sunlight comes this should then be - ~-31. It also tells us that this side is the negative side.
Looking at the bottom circle the orbs represent the the coordinates on the side. Triangulate the red line with the orb which represents the planet were searching for. then we get a angle of ~29. not knowing what could tell us this side is the negative side but knowing that the new ruins are on the negative side, we can assume this is the negative side.
Also I now think that the pyramid close to the relic represents that there is a moon close to the planet were the ruins are on. For the one in the middle in the top circle which then should be Synuefe XO-P c22-17. The pyramid could tell us that the planet were searching for orbits around a other one and the other 2 are lonely planets without moons.
Ofc the one who pinpointed the objects on that map could have put them slightly in the wrong place.
Then applying this theory to the other planets we get:
Synuefe XO-P c22-17: (~-2,~91)
Synuefe ZL-J d10-119: (~122.5,~-117)
IC 2391 Sector ZE-A d101: (~-12,~5)
of course this theory could be as much as the one next guy. But lets give it a shot!
I see some people are just making up crazy ideas. So lets ignore Relics with some "shpere" inside and triangle glyphs because these xenos don't write with glyphs and they must have no meaning. Lets think up something crazy and unrelated. Something geometry based. This is ridiculous
http://i.imgur.com/oDppiOB.jpg This can contain numerical code in triangles, exact planet and coordinates and this is the key. At least Ram Tah was able to decipher names of the systems. Or we can fly days on guessed planets.
+other pictures. http://i.imgur.com/bJgYqrm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/e07t1RW.png http://i.imgur.com/tQf9cVG.png
http://i.imgur.com/oDppiOB.jpg This can contain numerical code in triangles, exact planet and coordinates and this is the key. At least Ram Tah was able to decipher names of the systems. Or we can fly days on guessed planets.
+other pictures. http://i.imgur.com/bJgYqrm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/e07t1RW.png http://i.imgur.com/tQf9cVG.png
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In all seriousness and no insult intended:I really want to criticize this after getting bashed for not being "accurate" myself, but I won't
- You may be right in the "bits" part as they are physics based principle and probably the basis of any computer, alien or not.
- If you settle a new planet, you will probably want to have your 0 meridian go through your first settlement and not some random spot.
- If you are a spacefaring civilization and want to build stuff at 30° longitude, you just do it. You dont go 5% up or down. You are able to navigate stars and distances where one thousandth of angle degree means millions of kilometers at your destination. Even ancient civilizations of our planet could do it without such large margin for error.
- You have no idea if they are using 360 degrees angles in a circle. If they dont, it would make any of your coordinates grossly inaccurate even if the calculation is sound.
- The rising moon is off though, however its angle is so steep that it could have touched the horizon at the right place. Especially the planetary horizon, not the ridges at the distance.
- The best theory up to now IMO is the one linking relics to the systems position in galaxy map. Relics are the only active thing as they do register on the wave scanner.
- The only puzzle so far that most ppl avoid are the glyphs at the active obelisks and/or the relic bases.
- Perhaps that is the reason that the base is the same. To slap our faces so we realize that there is nothing in the archiecture itself.
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Following a hunch based on position of galactic plane, barnards loop and the orbit of the moon, I went back to C22-17 AB3. (the hunch came from the image with the compass overlay)
Now I am not saying its the right planet, but my hunch took me basically to -32, 128 allowing for a small bit of wiggling. Its uncannily coincidental.
Anyone check if the B1 pillar in the first site is also at an angle?
I know you're all ignoring it because it breaks your copy/paste worldview but c'mon - for science
(B1 - on top of the big circle)
If you reload your game it will straighten up.
happened to me too.I've tweeted twice in the last week. They totally just ignore tweets that aren't praise for the game / screenshots.
Congratulations. Nice birthday present for you!! [up]
According to this post and comments in the bug reports forum, yes.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...und-Frontier-its-time-to-tell-us-what-s-wrong
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If you reload your game it will straighten up.
Ah thanks, thought I had science, actually ... glitched
Well, I need to switch to solo anyway, those cads in Mobius have stolen all the artefacts 
In the first site tower B2 ('outside' the ruins) is at angle.Anyone check if the B1 pillar in the first site is also at an angle?
I know you're all ignoring it because it breaks your copy/paste worldview but c'mon - for science
(B1 - on top of the big circle)
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Congratulations CMDR for finding the ruins site!
However it is disappointing that the layout and design is exactly the same. I firmly believe in my professional opinion as a QA, that this is a bug.
There's likely a common file or dependency in the game data that tells the game how to display the ruins, when it was changed after the first site was discovered, it likely changed all of them at the same time. If they are secretive about the locations internally as I think they are, then it's highly unlikely that QA got to see this.
I've seen this happen more times than I can count.
On the other hand, there are still more sites to be discovered in the other systems. While we wait to see if FDev will give us a response to the bug report submitted already we should continue looking for the other 2 sites. Though don't be too surprised if they too look exactly the same, and give exactly the same data packets.
However it is disappointing that the layout and design is exactly the same. I firmly believe in my professional opinion as a QA, that this is a bug.
There's likely a common file or dependency in the game data that tells the game how to display the ruins, when it was changed after the first site was discovered, it likely changed all of them at the same time. If they are secretive about the locations internally as I think they are, then it's highly unlikely that QA got to see this.
I've seen this happen more times than I can count.
On the other hand, there are still more sites to be discovered in the other systems. While we wait to see if FDev will give us a response to the bug report submitted already we should continue looking for the other 2 sites. Though don't be too surprised if they too look exactly the same, and give exactly the same data packets.
Careful. I am flying Mobius too. :-DAh thanks, thought I had science, actually ... glitched
I'm not disappointed by the layout, it stands to reason that the sites would be either identical or very similar. After all most human comms networks are very similar in appearance.
Maybe you're on to something but it will need some more polish. Your result for Synuefe 119 is an impossible coordinate as latitude doesn't go beyond 90.
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