Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Some Dunning Kruger going on in this thread


Anyway, it appears the leeching bug has been fixed, hopefully less false positives and so on.


Hmmm, not for me at least. The first thing that happened after dropping from glide was to get two data messages. Mobius PvE.
 
30/30, 30/60 - yeah, I should have been 100% accurate with a hypothesis, I'm so, so, sorry!

I don't care at this stage :D

I've called it that Planet 1 in Synuefe ZL-J d10-119 is the next ruins and planet D 2 is the other one in Synuefe XO-P c22-17.

Won't be "wrong" this time.

I think you're better off following your hypothesis, beat the others to a ruins, and then say "I was right" instead of wasting time on the forums that could have been spent progressing towards figuring out of this thing. No offense meant.
 
I do wonder why the station services loading icon is so similar to the obelisk patterns.

I think it's something to do with the guardian AI, and it'll have a 'backdoor' into our ships AI to cause random malfunctions or something. Humans way back encountered some guardian tech and based our ships/stations tech on that without knowing enough about it, and it was all shadily sweeped under the carpet or something [where is it]

Also, on a seperate note, due to a.... disagreement... with the ground, I am out of the exploring for now.
 
You're nowhere near these co-ords with your guesses? Have you actually read your annoying diagram you kept flooding the thread with? All your guesses were 32 lat 64 lon etc, never did you guess 32 lat 32 lon or any variation of that.

But if you're still standing strong, go to those co-ords you posted earlier about whatever planet you're 'calling' and prove us wrong, otherwise, let it go and admit your theory holds no merit.

Because I don't need to include everything in a diagram: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ies-Thread-9-The-Canonn?p=5075795#post5075795

I've been PM'd lots by loads of people if they should also check 32.32 or 64.64 and I said to them "why not" because it is as good as guess as any.

Communication happens outside this thread.

So I wasn't spot on with 29/30 or 30/60 - but I was very close - I was in the right place with the tens.
 
Hmmm, not for me at least. The first thing that happened after dropping from glide was to get two data messages. Mobius PvE.

I'm getting indications I've already got the data, a flash on the message panel but no new message, means it's already one of the messages I've got, seems site 1 in open/pg didn't just give too much info, but possibly all of it.
 
I was looking at the moon paths and orbital stuff, and I noticed that we have no way of knowing the
axial tilts of the main body and moons. Did I noob it and miss something obvious, or is this info missing
(because that will make determining the path of the moon in the main body coordinate system impossible to determine).

Anyone can enlighten me here ? XD

The main factors will be the orbital inclination, speed and the speed of the moons orbit as it relates to the planet.

Basically as long as the moons tilted orbit and speed puts it over the same lat/Lon of the planet at a given point in its orbit it will work
 
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I think my "Fly the LAT line low down and the orbit line in SC" was also too simplistic, there is the off-set angle of the moons orbit as seen from the surface to consider, but I was too myopic and tired when I posted last night to realise/make sense of that. Others have been looking into working that out, I think, but I can't quote specifc posts - at work with insuficient time for a detailed search.

Here's what I did with the first 2 sites

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ies-Thread-9-The-Canonn?p=5083162#post5083162

And this where it seems to show a relationship of 44% of the radius distance as the offset distance for the new track
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ies-Thread-9-The-Canonn?p=5083214#post5083214

If somebody can use the method here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-fqcT1t1QylyadOa23_fgFIlbRy7QBr2G2M4gjxOKsA/htmlview#

To give me 2 coordinates where the moon is directly overhead I can calculate its path and it's associated parallel path and give you a set of coordinates to fly to
 
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I said right from the start it would be C3 and not only is there one there, but you can be certain it was the first one we were supposed to find.

I was right.
Worship me more than BL1P [haha]

MAKE BL1P GREAT AGAIN

WORSHIP ME !!!!
 
I tell you what, if they pull a CG hauling data for this one, good luck with that, that's when I'll sit it out, not hauling my Asp 370,000 ls just for that.
 
I tell you what, if they pull a CG hauling data for this one, good luck with that, that's when I'll sit it out, not hauling my Asp 370,000 ls just for that.
Pfft some of us have ships that'll only do 25ly with a tail-wind, when I have to do 12 jumps for your 6, 300kls is a walk in the park :p
 
Which program did you use for drawing a moon's orbit? I tried paper and pencil but it quite difficult :D

equations and spherical coordinates. I'm usually quite good at this stuff, so I hope to be able to produce something
usefull. Maybe XD.

My big question is the spacing between the great circle and the ruin position. As I understand it, the ruin lays on a parallel circle (i.e. not a great one)
so that the moon will trace an arc < 180°. If you could explain to me the separation between the great circle and the ruin "smaller circle" I would
be glad. (and be able to compute stuff).
 
Culture 6 is missing on the sheet.
Language 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 are missing too.

Can you please update it ? Thank you.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ovrDiY9WZw4SXaSMe13tODwHQdEnxLoVIj4ceGrpGQ8/edit#gid=2003437149

Here is the post I update from the datas you, guys, provided on the Google Sheet : http://elite-dangerous.fr/forum/evenements-globaux/13648-ram-tah-ruines-alien?start=360#191182

All the datas, ordered and translated in french.

Good job Cmdrs !

i have culture and language 6 but it wont let me edit that document

Culture 6 - This data holds some shocking revelations. it talks about the religion that emerged towards the end of the guardians civilisation and i wont lie it has shocked me. while religion remains a feature of human society, unless you live in one of the more extreme theocracies, its generally a matter of personal faith rather than a generally accepted consequence of the human condition. i know some of my fellow researchers would disagree with me. but it is generally assumed that religious beliefs tends to reduce to potency as scientific understanding grows in the case of the guardians, the opposite holds true, it truely divided them.

language 6 - This data packet indicates that the guardians used two different forms of communication with the same - or at the very least similar - language constructs, its slow but fascinating work, using this data i believe i can establish a rudimentary understanding of the oldest two forms - verbal communication. like us they had a vocal language, and the range of sounds appears to be similar to that used in human vocalisation.
 
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