Newcomer / Intro Query about losing rep when abandoning missions

[Dhansak]

I have just finished my first ever mission stacking (on a small scale) - done with massacre missions handed out by factions at civil war. It worked well enough and I enjoyed the combat at the CZ very much. To be honest I only did it as it was fun - if it was tedious for me I would have ignored the process no matter how lucrative it was!

Anyway, I went back to the CZ this evening and found the Faction Selection dropdown had changed to "ceasefire". Ignoring the urge to shoot at vessels still described as Mission Targets, I returned to the station to find the civil war had passed. Bad timing considering I had only just acquired some new massacre missions from the station just 3 minutes earlier.

Having googled around a bit I gather there is no way to fulfill the remaining missions (many with 40-60 kills still required). So I guess I just have to abandon those missions. However, on my googling journey, I did see many people unhappy about the reputation loss they suffered from doing this. I could not figure out which reputation they were losing. Is it the local faction who gave you the mission, or the superpower or (please not this) your ranking rep?

So at the moment I am allied with the mission giving faction (who have allegiance to the Federation), allied with the Federation, and am Chief Petty Officer with the Federation (97% of the way to the next rank). Which of these gets reduced? The thing I fear most is damaging the last one - it's been a hell of a grind just getting to that lowly rank!

Thanks all.

 

[bookmite]

I have just finished my first ever mission stacking (on a small scale) - done with massacre missions handed out by factions at civil war. It worked well enough and I enjoyed the combat at the CZ very much. To be honest I only did it as it was fun - if it was tedious for me I would have ignored the process no matter how lucrative it was!

Anyway, I went back to the CZ this evening and found the Faction Selection dropdown had changed to "ceasefire". Ignoring the urge to shoot at vessels still described as Mission Targets, I returned to the station to find the civil war had passed. Bad timing considering I had only just acquired some new massacre missions from the station just 3 minutes earlier.

Having googled around a bit I gather there is no way to fulfill the remaining missions (many with 40-60 kills still required). So I guess I just have to abandon those missions. However, on my googling journey, I did see many people unhappy about the reputation loss they suffered from doing this. I could not figure out which reputation they were losing. Is it the local faction who gave you the mission, or the superpower or (please not this) your ranking rep?

So at the moment I am allied with the mission giving faction (who have allegiance to the Federation), allied with the Federation, and am Chief Petty Officer with the Federation (97% of the way to the next rank). Which of these gets reduced? The thing I fear most is damaging the last one - it's been a hell of a grind just getting to that lowly rank!

Thanks all.

If you stacked 20 missions for the same faction, you may be upsetting the head honcho by abandoning them...however all is not lost, simply do lots of data delivery or menial missions to recover...Naval missions are harder to come by..I've only had 4 in 2 months, but uber allied to the Feds ..it's happened to me too....but I wasn't stacking them...a headache for sure.

Good luck

 

[d8veh]

You don't really lose anything. Your rep will drop back to about where it started when you first arrived, so if you want to go back and do the same thing again later, you'll have to rank up again.

 

[Hooplah]

Rep is all about missions complete versus the failed ones. From what I have seen one doesn't get much change from either. It will cost in fines for failing a mission but a quick trip to a black market with the now illegal goods one can offset that. Know your black markets in the area when you need them and how to get there without being scanned. Outposts used to be a no scan zone but that has changed. Still a fast ship and a docking computer gets one into an outpost every time without a scan for me anyway. I just keep going and the rep keeps going up.

 

[Dhansak]

Thanks all - much appreciated.

I am letting the missions expire naturally as they timeout. So far they only seem to effect local faction and federation rep - but thankfully have not seen any impact on Fed Navy rep. Have done some side missions to get to 100% Chief Petty Officer. Will wait for a Navy promotion mission - when that is done can rest easy!

Cheers

 

[StiTch]

Heads up you don't necessarily need to drop them all.

Kills against the faction's ships are still kills, but you'll need to find them as Wanted ships within the system. As by nature this takes considerably longer than a CZ I wouldn't use it to complete missions for 81 kills, but if I had a batch nearly complete or a couple of low-count missions...

 

[d8veh]

Heads up you don't necessarily need to drop them all.

Kills against the faction's ships are still kills, but you'll need to find them as Wanted ships within the system. As by nature this takes considerably longer than a CZ I wouldn't use it to complete missions for 81 kills, but if I had a batch nearly complete or a couple of low-count missions...

I thought they changed that so that you can only kill in the CZ now; however, last night I got interdicted on the way to the CZ and the interdictor was marked as a mission target, but he might have been one of those mission specific ones that get sent after you, which are shown in a message. I never check the mission update messages.

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Rep is all about missions complete versus the failed ones. From what I have seen one doesn't get much change from either. It will cost in fines for failing a mission but a quick trip to a black market with the now illegal goods one can offset that. Know your black markets in the area when you need them and how to get there without being scanned. Outposts used to be a no scan zone but that has changed. Still a fast ship and a docking computer gets one into an outpost every time without a scan for me anyway. I just keep going and the rep keeps going up.

In my experience, your rep goes down a lot more if you fail a mission than if you complete one - something like 2 or 3 times as much, so 20 failed missions will take you from allied to neutral or something like that. These are massacre missions, where there's no fine or cargo to sell. I can't say whether the rep loss is the same for all missions.

 

[StiTch]

I thought they changed that so that you can only kill in the CZ now; however, last night I got interdicted on the way to the CZ and the interdictor was marked as a mission target, but he might have been one of those mission specific ones that get sent after you, which are shown in a message. I never check the mission update messages.

Would be interesting to get clarification on that.

I'd heard no such thing about it being restricted to CZ only (not to be taken as any kind of dismissal, just an acceptance of FD's somewhat bizarre manner of keeping us up to date) but have indeed seen the "mission target" marker after a cease fire...but I only actually tested it still racks up kills in the CZ, by just murdering them and not joining a side.