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This message is really for people who are thinking of giving up and going solo. PvP fans, there is nothing for you here
After all the threads recently I think I have pretty much decided I cant be bothered with PvP at all. I am not looking into a debate on griefing vs "valid" PvP, it is what it is, and that is going to be allowed in the ALL group which is fine. When it comes to PvP I am kind of on a hiding to nothing as, I will never instigate a fight with a human, as I have no interest in that, therefore in my small ship, I am generally dead as soon as a human decides they want some of me.
I know this is a sandbox and anything goes etc etc etc, but it isnt for me, but I love the idea of co-op, and also simply just having other humans doing their own thing PvE in an online game. I believe there is a number of people who feel similar.
So my proposal is, let the PvPers have what ever they want in the ALL game, however I was thinking about either setting up (or joining if there is someone already planning this) a private group where everyone is welcome, on the proviso that PvP is a no go.
The game itself isnt going to offer any magic invulnerability, and this is good as it makes friendly fire something to think about in battles etc.
So out of curiosity, how much interest would there be for such a group?
obviously there would be a no tolerance policy for PvP and people doing it in the private group would be kicked. (not sure how easy that would be to police, ie whether there will be game flags so that software can keep an eye on this, or whether everyone who wants to accuse some one of breaking the covenant would have to had shadowplay running in the background as proof.
I know it isnt what DB wants really, but this beta has shown me there are a significant number of people who I simply do not want to pass the time with, even if they are diluted out a bit.
The private grouping option is going to be there aso why not use it? I am thinking players who are currently thinking of going solo could maybe join something like this instead???
On the flip side, it means no need to "water down" the all group with too many rules and protections which is something that I know a lot of PvP people are concerned about.
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Private Group – Players in this group will only be matched with other players in the same private group
Players can create their own private group and invite people into it
To help facilitate inviting players into a private group, players can be indicated as friends in game and can be selected easily for sending invites out too
Any player can be invited into a private group regardless of friend status so player name searching and direct in-game selection is possible
A player who accepts such an invite will be removed from their current group upon the next hyperspace jump and be placed in the private group of the inviting player
A player who refuses such an invite will remain in whatever group they were already in and the option to ignore future requests from that player during the current gaming session is presented
Players can only invite other players of the same type (normal, iron man) to a group
Players can save private group settings including players to invite to allow quick selection and set up of groups
A player can set an option to allow friends to “quick join” into their private group
They can change this option at any time
Players will be able to see on their friend list that other friends are in private groups and that some may have a symbol indicated they’re free to “quick join” into the group without needing an invite
The “quick join” option can be extended to allow friends of friends in freely also
A player wishing to join another player’s private group will have to message them asking for an invite as there is no way to formally request admission into the group
Players will thus typically set the “quick join” option if they don’t want the hassle of their friends having to message them when they want to join in with the group
Only the original private group creator can invite others into their group. They can also do the following:
Kick other players out of the group
Disband the group resulting in all the other players entering their own individual private groups with “quick joining” disabled (gives them the opportunity to play solo or decide to join the all players group)
Pass their leadership and thus all these options to someone else in the group
Upon disconnecting, logging off or leaving the group automatically passes leadership to the oldest private group member, i.e. the first player to accept an invite into the group that is still present
When creating a group the player creating it can decide how the group will react to crimes committed by players while in the group
The player can decide to either count only crimes committed against other players, or against AI ships
The player can decide if a player who earns a bounty is either kicked back into the all players group, or can be kept in the private group
This message is really for people who are thinking of giving up and going solo. PvP fans, there is nothing for you here
After all the threads recently I think I have pretty much decided I cant be bothered with PvP at all. I am not looking into a debate on griefing vs "valid" PvP, it is what it is, and that is going to be allowed in the ALL group which is fine. When it comes to PvP I am kind of on a hiding to nothing as, I will never instigate a fight with a human, as I have no interest in that, therefore in my small ship, I am generally dead as soon as a human decides they want some of me.
I know this is a sandbox and anything goes etc etc etc, but it isnt for me, but I love the idea of co-op, and also simply just having other humans doing their own thing PvE in an online game. I believe there is a number of people who feel similar.
So my proposal is, let the PvPers have what ever they want in the ALL game, however I was thinking about either setting up (or joining if there is someone already planning this) a private group where everyone is welcome, on the proviso that PvP is a no go.
The game itself isnt going to offer any magic invulnerability, and this is good as it makes friendly fire something to think about in battles etc.
So out of curiosity, how much interest would there be for such a group?
obviously there would be a no tolerance policy for PvP and people doing it in the private group would be kicked. (not sure how easy that would be to police, ie whether there will be game flags so that software can keep an eye on this, or whether everyone who wants to accuse some one of breaking the covenant would have to had shadowplay running in the background as proof.
I know it isnt what DB wants really, but this beta has shown me there are a significant number of people who I simply do not want to pass the time with, even if they are diluted out a bit.
The private grouping option is going to be there aso why not use it? I am thinking players who are currently thinking of going solo could maybe join something like this instead???
On the flip side, it means no need to "water down" the all group with too many rules and protections which is something that I know a lot of PvP people are concerned about.
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Private Group – Players in this group will only be matched with other players in the same private group
Players can create their own private group and invite people into it
To help facilitate inviting players into a private group, players can be indicated as friends in game and can be selected easily for sending invites out too
Any player can be invited into a private group regardless of friend status so player name searching and direct in-game selection is possible
A player who accepts such an invite will be removed from their current group upon the next hyperspace jump and be placed in the private group of the inviting player
A player who refuses such an invite will remain in whatever group they were already in and the option to ignore future requests from that player during the current gaming session is presented
Players can only invite other players of the same type (normal, iron man) to a group
Players can save private group settings including players to invite to allow quick selection and set up of groups
A player can set an option to allow friends to “quick join” into their private group
They can change this option at any time
Players will be able to see on their friend list that other friends are in private groups and that some may have a symbol indicated they’re free to “quick join” into the group without needing an invite
The “quick join” option can be extended to allow friends of friends in freely also
A player wishing to join another player’s private group will have to message them asking for an invite as there is no way to formally request admission into the group
Players will thus typically set the “quick join” option if they don’t want the hassle of their friends having to message them when they want to join in with the group
Only the original private group creator can invite others into their group. They can also do the following:
Kick other players out of the group
Disband the group resulting in all the other players entering their own individual private groups with “quick joining” disabled (gives them the opportunity to play solo or decide to join the all players group)
Pass their leadership and thus all these options to someone else in the group
Upon disconnecting, logging off or leaving the group automatically passes leadership to the oldest private group member, i.e. the first player to accept an invite into the group that is still present
When creating a group the player creating it can decide how the group will react to crimes committed by players while in the group
The player can decide to either count only crimes committed against other players, or against AI ships
The player can decide if a player who earns a bounty is either kicked back into the all players group, or can be kept in the private group
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