Do I detect a tiny bit of doubt from Frontier about ED future?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTBvpd3_Vqk&index=4&list=PL7glm5rbPHKysKIiEKt86qasedNyRainK

Here is footage of some development work on planets from 4:39 onwards. Again, just because there isn't a Gantt chart to read with milestone dates, don't assume nothing has or is being developed for the expansions. Some of the posts on this thread should get some people a good job in tabloid journalism ;)

FD for example themselves said that they didn't plan avatars - it's basically work on expansions already per se.

I am sometimes amazed how similarly minded tabloid readers and geeks can sometimes be :D
 
My attention was immediately drawn to the words "depending on the level of success" in the newsletter. I don't recall ever having seen that caveat previously. I wonder why it was suddenly felt necessary?

The game is super niche, and it's the underdog right now of the two space sims, 3 if you want to get technical. Of course they are going to be worried/skeptical waiting to fight a uphill battle.

If anyone thinks what im saying is , well goodluck to you. Its a sandbox, it needs peripheral equipment to compete, its group orientated etc... all niche in the current themepark world.
 

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The game is super niche, and it's the underdog right now of the two space sims, 3 if you want to get technical. Of course they are going to be worried/skeptical waiting to fight a uphill battle.

If anyone thinks what im saying is , well goodluck to you. Its a sandbox, it needs peripheral equipment to compete, its group orientated etc... all niche in the current themepark world.

no you are correct

also many space games popping up everywhere even with big names like Sony behind No Mans Sky, and small ones like Limit Theory players will spread out I dont need 10 space sims at the same time tbh, I have 5 on my HD right now. including Star Citizen, Paragon, Vendetta, Star Conflict and Eve... tons and tons of spaaaaaaaace stuff, lol :eek:

even more coming out
http://youtu.be/4rCNKF5JlLs
 
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no you are correct

also many space games popping up everywhere even with big names like Sony behind No Mans Sky, and small ones like Limit Theory players will spread out I dont need 10 space sims at the same time tbh, I have 5 on my HD right now. including Star Citizen, Paragon, Vendetta, Star Conflict and Eve... tons and tons of spaaaaaaaace stuff, lol :eek:

even more coming out
http://youtu.be/4rCNKF5JlLs

Multiplayer space games have been coming out and disappearing since 1988. The difference with FDev is that they have other, recent, modern titles bringing in revenue right now and they have an established IP/franchise to build on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Warrior <-- note the original date (1988)
http://home.earthlink.net/~phreec/rwabout.html <-- 1997 - and it was fricking cool,

I realize that for most of you here, there's only Elite/Eve/X, but there have been a good 12+ other attempts to launch multiplayer space games in the last 20 years.
 
Multiplayer space games have been coming out and disappearing since 1988. The difference with FDev is that they have other, recent, modern titles bringing in revenue right now and they have an established IP/franchise to build on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Warrior <-- note the original date (1988)
http://home.earthlink.net/~phreec/rwabout.html <-- 1997 - and it was fricking cool,

I realize that for most of you here, there's only Elite/Eve/X, but there have been a good 12+ other attempts to launch multiplayer space games in the last 20 years.

We are following the big launches, the ones with "a chance". Of course i'm the most skeptical. After Titanfall (no content), Wildstar (people call it the waiting for WoD simulator), ESO (lol), Age of Conan (r.I.P), EVE: incarna (no more walking in stations), Dust 514 (killed off)

I want Elite to succeed, but it's hard pressed.

no you are correct

also many space games popping up everywhere even with big names like Sony behind No Mans Sky, and small ones like Limit Theory players will spread out I dont need 10 space sims at the same time tbh, I have 5 on my HD right now. including Star Citizen, Paragon, Vendetta, Star Conflict and Eve... tons and tons of spaaaaaaaace stuff, lol :eek:

even more coming out
http://youtu.be/4rCNKF5JlLs

:) It's going to be intersting few months/years
 
I despair at the negativity. Suddenly when we seem to be making solid progress and apparently on a very clear pathway to release with an improved playing experience we are besieged by doubters. The road map was always only walking around and landing. Now we are seeing articulated an expanded road map which must be dependent on the revenue stream generated, no business would do otherwise. If FD were in any doubt they would not be articulating the detail. The fact they are should be seen as very positive.
 
I despair at the negativity. Suddenly when we seem to be making solid progress and apparently on a very clear pathway to release with an improved playing experience we are besieged by doubters. The road map was always only walking around and landing. Now we are seeing articulated an expanded road map which must be dependent on the revenue stream generated, no business would do otherwise. If FD were in any doubt they would not be articulating the detail. The fact they are should be seen as very positive.

Quite right.

I've banged my head against my monitor so many times reading this thread, I've created my own 3D experience.
 
I despair at the negativity. Suddenly when we seem to be making solid progress and apparently on a very clear pathway to release with an improved playing experience we are besieged by doubters. The road map was always only walking around and landing. Now we are seeing articulated an expanded road map which must be dependent on the revenue stream generated, no business would do otherwise. If FD were in any doubt they would not be articulating the detail. The fact they are should be seen as very positive.

There have been a few threads on how to finance the game after launch. I was shocked at the naivety many displayed, assuming that the game would have been financed by the KS campaign, or that no other sources of financing other than box sales or expansion sales would be necessary.
 
There have been a few threads on how to finance the game after launch. I was shocked at the naivety many displayed, assuming that the game would have been financed by the KS campaign, or that no other sources of financing other than box sales or expansion sales would be necessary.

If you read the wording of the Expansion pass (and others). It leave Frontier open to selling small DLC that is not covered in the expansion pass, as well as micro-transactions.
 
There have been a few threads on how to finance the game after launch. I was shocked at the naivety many displayed, assuming that the game would have been financed by the KS campaign, or that no other sources of financing other than box sales or expansion sales would be necessary.

Yeah, it's shocking that FD might have to put their hand in their own pocket!! It's not normal for a company to fund their own products now is it?
 
There have been a few threads on how to finance the game after launch. I was shocked at the naivety many displayed, assuming that the game would have been financed by the KS campaign, or that no other sources of financing other than box sales or expansion sales would be necessary.

Well people also assume that FD willingly will pay for server maintainance/hosting out of their own pocket, because they are such nice guys.. Come on! you can't be that naive! :D

Ongoing development of ED is going to cost and FD will need funding to continue this development.. pure and simple. Guess where that funding comes from? :)
 
Yeah, it's shocking that FD might have to put their hand in their own pocket!! It's not normal for a company to fund their own products now is it?

You made ​​the irony here ? if you are serious, why shocking ? If Frontier finance a portion of the extensions with his own money, this is a investment, no ? It is the capitalist system. Reassure me, you joking ? As my English is not good, I have a doubt
 
Yeah, it's shocking that FD might have to put their hand in their own pocket!! It's not normal for a company to fund their own products now is it?

I think these are two different things. Most people I have seen assume that FD will honor their obligation to produce expansions. I think rarely anyone thinks they can be produced without source of financing and that KS money is enough.

Sometimes I wish that ED fans would be less paranoid about everything and would enjoy ED for what it is. Sometimes I feel we are just big self-fulfilling prophecy joke. For example I want landings - however I never thought I will enjoy game already without them, but it's happening. Level of detail is amazing. But I still see people claiming no game will be successful or good enough without landings.

If we won't believe ED here, who will? I know it's hard a geek to ask to have a faith. But have FD disappointed us so far? For real? It's nice to be vigilant and skeptical, and it is nice to have some trust too.
 
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Yeah, it's shocking that FD might have to put their hand in their own pocket!! It's not normal for a company to fund their own products now is it?
Does anyone except FD know the numbers that everyone else seems so confident about?

I can't wait for neurosurgeons to put up forums so we can all give our penny's worth of advice on brain surgery.
 
I think these are two different things. Most people I have seen assume that FD will honor their obligation to produce expansions. I think rarely anyone thinks they can be produced without source of financing and that KS money is enough.

Source of funding can come from banks, shareholders, or extension packs (if the buyers have the guarantee that the extension will be made). A kickstarter could be launched again. Frontier can also put his own money, it is an investment

;)

Does anyone except FD know the numbers that everyone else seems so confident about?

Especially since Frontier has removed the counters of number of backers / amounts committed

:)
 
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