Afaik in Elite messages are transported via space ship, because they are capable of FTL travel and hyperspace jumps.
Afaik there is no technology to send messages faster. Correct me if I'm wrong...
Solving the Jaques Mystery
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Afaik in Elite messages are transported via space ship, because they are capable of FTL travel and hyperspace jumps.
Afaik there is no technology to send messages faster. Correct me if I'm wrong...
But we can say for sure no one manually delivered any scrolls by Jaques, because then it would be obvious where he was stranded.
Maybe text documents and so on can be sent instantly. and ships are needed for more detailed files to be sent.
I do think however the reason we use ships in elite is to avoid messages being intercepted or pirated via hacking.
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Lots of handwavium!!
It's just a theory but I'm thinking that if we were able to find separate pieces of the same original log message that there may be a way to triangulate based on different delays between receiving the pieces.
Pure speculation because none has come forward with any more messages yet.
No it doesn't, but imagine if you managed to figure out that 3 log fragments were from the same log entry.
Suppose those 3 fragments were received on different days at different stations.
You could suppose that the earliest received message is at a station closer to Jaques than the second or third.
A few of those could provide a rough direction to look and then the purple nebula and F-class clues become more useful.
All speculation though without more log fragments to work with.
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dynamicbob
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Despite all the speculation and theory development, the key remains that repairs and the building of a planteary outpost are now well udner way
No-one is disputing that or undermining that effort.
The point of this thread is to examine FD's thinking when it comes to a puzzle where the answer is a single system that could be anywhere in the galaxy.
How do the clues provided identify the system where Jaques is?
All I'm asking is that when people are in a station they check the local news for these broken fragments and post them here.
They are probably 'System Herald' news items from June.
Your ship receives Galnet just like you get criminal record information from anyone you scan: instantly and regardless of distance to the bubble. So, yes, instant communication is already a thing. The next step in space exploration will be the Galnet Jump Drive.
dynamicbob
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acutally im waiting thro selling miernals to get allied status with jaques and if there are any of these tip offs at that point, it could lead to the mystery moving forward. Nothing yet though
I completely agree with you in your thinking. Reverse engineer this puzzle, revealing a method in their thinking to hopefully forward engineer future puzzles.
Even if it comes to nothing, it might inadvertently throw up solutions to something later.
Even if it comes to nothing, it might inadvertently throw up solutions to something later.
So it looks like someone finally found another Herald message:
Using that to refresh this thread if anyone wants to pursue the puzzle method.
Using that to refresh this thread if anyone wants to pursue the puzzle method.
I'm not seeing it - care to demonstrate?
I twiddled for a while but got nowhere.
I assume you've noticed the similarities in the longer numbers when converted to decimal, e.g. 4694244222422 and 6374243222423 have a lot in common at the right hand end.
This commonality isn't there in Hexadecimal, so I think Decimal is the right approach.
The long decimals reminded me of the number sequences nonograms because
a) Nonogram images (such as FD's system diagram above in the thread) just change a few pixels between similar rows...hence the numbers look the same apart from a few digits changing here and there.
b) Nonogram numbers don't include zeros (as far as I can tell from a quick bit of googling)
but as I said I had no luck turning the numbers into an image (maybe cos I don't really understand nonograms)
I assume you've noticed the similarities in the longer numbers when converted to decimal, e.g. 4694244222422 and 6374243222423 have a lot in common at the right hand end.
This commonality isn't there in Hexadecimal, so I think Decimal is the right approach.
The long decimals reminded me of the number sequences nonograms because
a) Nonogram images (such as FD's system diagram above in the thread) just change a few pixels between similar rows...hence the numbers look the same apart from a few digits changing here and there.
b) Nonogram numbers don't include zeros (as far as I can tell from a quick bit of googling)
but as I said I had no luck turning the numbers into an image (maybe cos I don't really understand nonograms)
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Apologies if this has already been posted - but I'm not about to scan 2,000 pages to find out
The following was found in local Galnet in the Edenapel system:
It appears to be a nonogram, but it is different from those seen previously.
Attempts to solve it (in the Formidine Rift thread) have proved fruitless - potentially because the information only specifies one axis of the nonogram.
Please PM me if you find a solution - again, so I don't have to lose myself in this threadnought
Looks like another one was found
Before I realised DrewCarnegie had posted it here, I was working on the assumption that this was Jaques related, and a system map and tried to put it together guessing we only had the columns and not the rows for a nonagram:
It definitely looks rather like a system map of Colonia, rather like the one found from the other half.
Yup, looks like the Fusang and Edenapel messages form a nonagram of the system.
To be fair, that's not a great clue in terms of finding something that could be anywhere in the galaxy.
The other message is still unsolved and I feel like there are still more messages that must help narrow down the search area.
To be fair, that's not a great clue in terms of finding something that could be anywhere in the galaxy.
The other message is still unsolved and I feel like there are still more messages that must help narrow down the search area.
Yeh, I was just saying this in the Rift thread. It really doesn't seem to be much of help, as you are likely to notice a station in the system before you notice it looks like a system map someone's had to decode.