General / Off-Topic Dehumanizing your opponents = Not Cool

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Hercules, are you the same guy who used his Cutter to kill a CMDR in an Asp coming into the mailslot? Just curious.
 
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For any FD staff reading, would you allow in-game dialog that refers to a pixilated opponent's sexual orientation, or race, or gender? "Thank you for wiping out those *******!"? Of course not. The use of "vermin" however has been used recently to justify actual atrocities, and it's allowed. http://www.ppu.org.uk/genocide/g_rwanda4.html



I'm just curious why.

You can't blame a word for the actions of psychopaths. Would you object if they changed it to scum?
 
But you might care if you'd been the victim of some sort of atrocity. That's part of what I'm getting at.
It's just an English word.

noun, plural vermin.
1. Obnoxious, objectionable, or disgusting animals collectively, especially those of small size that appear commonly and are difficult to control, as flies, lice, bedbugs, cockroaches, mice, and rats.
2. an objectionable or obnoxious person, or such persons collectively.
3. animals that prey upon game, as coyotes or weasels.
 
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I think this sums it up quite well...

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But you might care if you'd been the victim of some sort of atrocity. That's part of what I'm getting at. The game doesn't use other terms for very good reasons. Some are allowed. Why?

Actually no, you'd probably not care as you'd have other things to think about - like, you know, what happened in real life. To actually come to terms with such stuff, a person needs a really good grip on reality and fantasy.

If someone was suffering from PTSD, then the actual combat element would be a bigger problem than the word 'vermin'.

You don't have to imagine some slight on behalf of someone who has been affected by combat. That's like twee middle-class British people who are offended on behalf of minorities when the minorities see no offence and actually laugh at the stupidity of those feeling it by proxy.

Let's face it. You're trolling. The closest connection you have to Rwanda is watching A Fish Called Wanda.

As Michael Jackson said - WHAT ABOUT THE ELEPHANTS?!?
 
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But you might care if you'd been the victim of some sort of atrocity. That's part of what I'm getting at. The game doesn't use other terms for very good reasons. Some are allowed. Why?

You're the one that took the massacre mission, so "killing pixels" isn't that big a deal to you obviously. Get off your moral high horse.
 
'Hercules' according to wikipedia was :

Hercules was a multifaceted figure with contradictory characteristics, which enabled later artists and writers to pick and choose how to represent him.

Hercules is known for his many adventures, which took him to the far reaches of the Greco-Roman world. One cycle of these adventures became canonical as the "Twelve Labours," but the list has variations. One traditional order of the labours is found in the Bibliotheca as follows:[2]

Slay the Nemean Lion.
Slay the nine-headed Lernaean Hydra.
Capture the Golden Hind of Artemis.
Capture the Erymanthian Boar.
Clean the Augean stables in a single day.
Slay the Stymphalian Birds.
Capture the Cretan Bull.
Steal the Mares of Diomedes.
Obtain the girdle of Hippolyta, Queen of the Amazons.
Obtain the cattle of the monster Geryon.
Steal the apples of the Hesperides.
Capture and bring back Cerberus.

If you're so easily upset by the word vermin, why do tell good sir/madam/attack helicopter do you name yourself after a killer ?

So you're triggered by the word and use of it in a video game but chose a name relevant to a story about a man that killed many.

I tip my hat at you and laugh, good day.
 
It's just an English word.

noun, plural vermin.
1. Obnoxious, objectionable, or disgusting animals collectively, especially those of small size that appear commonly and are difficult to control, as flies, lice, bedbugs, cockroaches, mice, and rats.
2. an objectionable or obnoxious person, or such persons collectively.
3. animals that prey upon game, as coyotes or weasels.

Which is what humans have called other humans throuout history when they wanted to make it easier to kill them. And it's allowed in-game. But not other terms, and for good reasons. Think about it.
 
Which is what humans have called other humans throuout history when they wanted to make it easier to kill them. And it's allowed in-game. But not other terms, and for good reasons. Think about it.

It's almost as if killing other players in the game is allowed. Think about it.
 
I just wish FD would wake up and ban all discussion of politics and religion on the forum.

Maybe then, we could actually get some decent discussion of the game.
 
'Hercules' according to wikipedia was :

Hercules was a multifaceted figure with contradictory characteristics, which enabled later artists and writers to pick and choose how to represent him.

Hercules is known for his many adventures, which took him to the far reaches of the Greco-Roman world. One cycle of these adventures became canonical as the "Twelve Labours," but the list has variations. One traditional order of the labours is found in the Bibliotheca as follows:[2]

Slay the Nemean Lion.
Slay the nine-headed Lernaean Hydra.
Capture the Golden Hind of Artemis.
Capture the Erymanthian Boar.
Clean the Augean stables in a single day.
Slay the Stymphalian Birds.
Capture the Cretan Bull.
Steal the Mares of Diomedes.
Obtain the girdle of Hippolyta, Queen of the Amazons.
Obtain the cattle of the monster Geryon.
Steal the apples of the Hesperides.
Capture and bring back Cerberus.

If you're so easily upset by the word vermin, why do tell good sir/madam/attack helicopter do you name yourself after a killer ?

So you're triggered by the word and use of it in a video game but chose a name relevant to a story about a man that killed many.

I tip my hat at you and laugh, good day.

Roasted?
 
For any FD staff reading, would you allow in-game dialog that refers to a pixilated opponent's sexual orientation, or race, or gender? "Thank you for wiping out those *******!"? Of course not. The use of "vermin" however has been used recently to justify actual atrocities, and it's allowed. http://www.ppu.org.uk/genocide/g_rwanda4.html
I'm just curious why.

I don't think you even understand your reference, what is against international law is the incitement of people, calling people to torture and kill other people, not calling someone a cockroach (and there is a difference to doing this in a two person chat and a radio broadcast, but none of both against international law...)
Sure, insults are against the law in many countries as well, but this is a different thing, as well as killing people or being a hitman, but this is a game, we are getting nowhere?
 
Holy crap, some people here need some serious counselling. It's a game, not real. Nothing in this is related to actual events in the slightest. Sci-fi and Fantasy have always been allegories for things that actually happen it's how Human beings dissassociate ourselves from utterly abhorent actions so that we can better study them so we can understand it.

If you're unable to make the break from reality to allegorise, you're probably not mature enough to be playing a game with mature themes.
 
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