General / Off-Topic Farage lets rip at 'Eurofanatic' Sturgeon over referendum

Mephane

Mephane
Cosmo said:
Scotland had a referendum 2 years ago and it's once in a generation! So Block the divisive and evil Sturgeon.
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I'll just say this:

* This new referendum wouldn't be primarily about leaving the UK, but about not leaving the EU.
* It is hilariously hypocritical to be pro-Brexit yet debate against this referendum.
* The final sentence is textbook Trumpian rhetoric. I hope you are merely quoting and this aren't your own words.
 

Cosmo

Cosmo
Mephane said:
I'll just say this:

* This new referendum wouldn't be primarily about leaving the UK, but about not leaving the EU.
* It is hilariously hypocritical to be pro-Brexit yet debate against this referendum.
* The final sentence is textbook Trumpian rhetoric. I hope you are merely quoting and this aren't your own words.
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Not at all, Scotland had a referendum just 2 years ago. You cannot keep doing referendum after referendum to get a desired result. It is once in a generation at least!
 
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Arry

Arry
I cannot believe or understand, why they gave that guy a radio program. Every time he opens his mouth, he causes division and all he is looking out for is, himself.

As to Nicola calling for another independence referendum? Well she can call all she likes, apparently Westminster or May, has the final word about if and when it happens. I say May, because today democracy had another nail hammered into its coffin. By parliament rejecting a free vote on the final EU exit decision. If MPs cannot vote how they or their constituents would want them too, what is the point of having them in that house?
 

Cosmo

Cosmo
Arry said:
I cannot believe or understand, why they gave that guy a radio program. Every time he opens his mouth, he causes division and all he is looking out for is, himself.
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Farage points out the hypocrisy of Sturgeon.

“I simply can’t understand how this word ‘independence’ can be used by Sturgeon – how is it independent to share your fish with the rest of Europe?” he asked.

“How is it independent to have virtually all of your laws made somewhere else? How is it independent to have your own courts overruled? How is it independent to have to sign up to join the Euro? How does any of this work? How does she get away with it?


:p
 
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NascentChemist

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Cosmo said:
Not at all, Scotland had a referendum just 2 years ago. You cannot keep doing referendum after referendum to get a desired result. It is once in a generation at least!
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As a Californian, I'm drooling at the though of restrictions to referendum (Prop 8, cough cough). Of course, our state gov't doesn't function all that well, so. At least this time around we got legal marijuana, repealed the death penalty, and funded our schools. Of course, we also required condoms in adult films, sped up the death penalty process, and increased tax breaks for the wealthiest...
 

Trinity Star

Trinity Star
Good luck to them, I don't really care if they leave.

I'm guessing we'll be taking a leaf out of Donald Trump's book and building a fence?
 

Cosmos

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Cosmo said:
Nah he points out the hypocrisy of Sturgeon.

“I simply can’t understand how this word ‘independence’ can be used by Sturgeon – how is it independent to share your fish with the rest of Europe?” he asked.

“How is it independent to have virtually all of your laws made somewhere else? How is it independent to have your own courts overruled? How is it independent to have to sign up to join the Euro? How does any of this work? How does she get away with it?


:p
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I must admit I'm rather skeptical of the SNP these days.. I can understand the desire to have an independent country considering history and years of Tory tyranny but there is no certainty Scotland would be able to join the EU. Ironically, if people hadn't voted for the Tories this time around there wouldnt have been a referendum. I wonder how many folks who want to stay in the EU voted Tory?

Its not without a sense of irony that the Scottish recent nationalist movement and the rise of the SNP is in my view directly related to the Thatcher years and how Scot industry was flattened. All things considered the Tories have a lot to answer for.

Still, I've never been a fan of the EU. Happy to be out of it.
 

Mephane

Mephane
Cosmo said:
Not at all, Scotland had a referendum just 2 years ago. You cannot keep doing referendum after referendum to get a desired result. It is once in a generation at least!
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That's why I wrote my first bullet point. Brexit changes everything. Some of the people who preferred to stay in the UK might indeed prefer more to stay in the EU if they can only have either.
 

NascentChemist

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Trinity Star said:
Good luck to them, I don't really care if they leave.

I'm guessing we'll be taking a leaf out of Donald Trump's book and building a fence?
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Heh, the fence brings up an interesting point. Trump is acting like a border wall would give him the leeway to completely ignore Mexico(while making them pay for it!:rolleyes:). Of course, they are our third largest trading partner. We can't just give them the finger, even with a stupid fence that can be defeated by a ladder and some rope.

[video=youtube;m4DlxD3Z8SU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4DlxD3Z8SU[/video]

[video=youtube;i3LbynP8GOo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3LbynP8GOo[/video]

How much of Britain's trade goes to the EU?
 
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PanPiper.

PanPiper.
Missus Ginger Fish seems to have differing views on Scotland being ready to enter the EU again , and enter some magical happy land, rather than deal with politics in Scotland today.

She seems very eager to think the EU would be welcoming them as soon as they are free.

Have you thought what the EU politicians think ?, Google it, ' What does the EU think of Independent Scotland ? ' , i didnt see anything positive or welcoming....
as 27 other countries will have to debate that and set criteria for any consideration on entry, after the other countries who are still queuing to apply, and how many years could that take?
The EU cant even make a trade deal with anyone in less than 8 years, and most of the world they still cant agree a trade deal.
 

Lianachan

Lianachan
Mephane said:
That's why I wrote my first bullet point. Brexit changes everything. Some of the people who preferred to stay in the UK might indeed prefer more to stay in the EU if they can only have either.
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True, but there are also people who want independence AND to be out of the EU, and those for who it's all about independence whatever else goes with it. I think independence and EU membership is what's tended to poll most strongly though.
 

Frank

Frank
Lianachan said:
True, but there are also people who want independence AND to be out of the EU, and those for who it's all about independence whatever else goes with it. I think independence and EU membership is what's tended to poll most strongly though.
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I voted to leave the UK, but I wasn't too upset with the result to stay. There were doubts about whether an independent Scotland could get to join the EU.

It was inevitable that there was going to be another referendum after Theresa May excluded Scottish MPs from Brexit decisions. I'll be voting "yes" again, and I think we will win this time. Anybody who voted "no" because they didn't want the turmoil of a major change are going to consider the fact that leaving Europe will create turmoil anyway.

NascentChemist said:
Um, didn't my president make a big blunder when he thought that Scotland voted to leave?
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Yes Trump did say that Scots were celebrating leaving the EU. But Trump says a lot of things. Whenever he opens his mouth a whole heap of bovine excrement is sure to emerge.
 
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