Yes i know it's a VR section, but....

[Wasp0]

Huge Apologies folks, but as you may know i just bought a Rift, and loving it, but......

I went back to my 4k Monitor last night to setup the Dictation in VA for use in the rift and i can't seem to get my graphics settings back to how they were before my rift arrived, (Yes, i know, i did not save them doh!). so please can a multi user answer my question on what the best 1080/i7 rig settings might be. Also i take it HMD setting is not for 2d viewing? a picture of ED Profiler will be great thanks.

Apologies again, but it was the rifts fault

 

[rootsrat]

Just max everything out, your rig should handle it easily.

 

[Alec Turner]

Pretty much as rootstrat says for 2D with a 1080. Max everything and see how high you can get SS (maybe 2.0? certainly 1.5).

HMD Quality doesn't apply for 2D.

Also, re: your lost settings ... had you already started changing the settings before you installed ED Profiler? Only I'm pretty sure Ed Profiler takes a backup of your settings when it's first installed so you might be able to recover them from there (ask in the ED Profiler thread).

 

[Wasp0]

Just max everything out, your rig should handle it easily.

Thanks for your answer Rootsrat, however i put the ss to 2.o and the system was like flying in treacle. so moved that back to 1.5, but it is the aliasing settings i want to know the SMAA. FXAA, MSAA etc etc, i have used the Ultra setting in ED Profiler but want to know the best setting for this and Blur and Bloom.

Thanks All

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Pretty much as rootstrat says for 2D with a 1080. Max everything and see how high you can get SS (maybe 2.0? certainly 1.5).

HMD Quality doesn't apply for 2D.

Also, re: your lost settings ... had you already started changing the settings before you installed ED Profiler? Only I'm pretty sure Ed Profiler takes a backup of your settings when it's first installed so you might be able to recover them from there (ask in the ED Profiler thread).

Hi Alec,

Thanks for your assistance last night.

I had an issue installing EDP and long story short means i have no backup settings DOH!

 

[Alec Turner]

Thanks for your answer Rootsrat, however i put the ss to 2.o and the system was like flying in treacle. so moved that back to 1.5, but it is the aliasing settings i want to know the SMAA. FXAA, MSAA etc etc, i have used the Ultra setting in ED Profiler but want to know the best setting for this and Blur and Bloom.

I expect you're sick of my advice and should probably listen to someone else now (mine is only one opinion) but ...

I reckon with SS=1.5 you probably don't need to use anti-aliasing at all (plus it can be a bit of a CPU hog). ED's in-game anti-aliasing was always a bit inefectual (or at least that was the story some time ago) with supersampling giving much better anti-jaggy results.

As for Blur and Bloom, these are kind of personal taste effects. I kinda like 'em and have them both turned on. They both have a pretty low effect on framerate.

 

[Wasp0]

I expect you're sick of my advice and should probably listen to someone else now (mine is only one opinion) but ...

I reckon with SS=1.5 you probably don't need to use anti-aliasing at all (plus it can be a bit of a CPU hog). ED's in-game anti-aliasing was always a bit inefectual (or at least that was the story some time ago) with supersampling giving much better anti-jaggy results.

As for Blur and Bloom, these are kind of personal taste effects. I kinda like 'em and have them both turned on. They both have a pretty low effect on framerate.

Alec, let me tell you straight.... I will never tire of your wholly most welcome advice !! [heart] you have held my hand (In a forum digitally kind of way i hasten to add) through this traumatic period of VR and now 2d Anxiety !

I have run out of Alec Reps, so please accept my Wasp0 Virtual Rep, which is highly sort

Thanks man, truly, and if (Nay When) we get space legs i will be the first to buy you a pint in the Jameson Memorial bar lounge!

 

[rootsrat]

I would have thought that at 4K you won't need Supersampling turned on. Is the image not good enough for you at that resolution? As for AA, I personally use maxed out SMAA + ReShade AA (from my preset) in 2D and FXAA in Vive.

 

[Wasp0]

I would have thought that at 4K you won't need Supersampling turned on. Is the image not good enough for you at that resolution? As for AA, I personally use maxed out SMAA + ReShade AA (from my preset) in 2D and FXAA in Vive.

It's my naivety in all things Graphical settings rootsrat that is producing all these questions on this great forum. I just don't know enough about it, so ......... yes read up on it i hear you shout, and as i type this i have my other work monitor open on 'Graphical settings in games for dummies', and dummy i am, but i am learning and when i do i will be able to help other frustrated Noobs.

Thank you guys for all the answers

 

[Alec Turner]

I would have thought that at 4K you won't need Supersampling turned on. Is the image not good enough for you at that resolution? As for AA, I personally use maxed out SMAA + ReShade AA (from my preset) in 2D and FXAA in Vive.

Interesting - I have no experience of 4K. I can see how SS would mean a LOT of pixels. Do you even need anti-aliasing? Have you experimented a lot at that resolution with SS vs. anti-aliasing to arrive at your settings?

I have run out of Alec Reps, so please accept my Wasp0 Virtual Rep, which is highly sort

Thanks man, truly, and if (Nay When) we get space legs i will be the first to buy you a pint in the Jameson Memorial bar lounge!

It's a deal - although come 2.3 my "local" will be at "Rebuy Prospect" in the Fullerene C60 system. It even has its own beer mats!

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[rootsrat]

Interesting - I have no experience of 4K. I can see how SS would mean a LOT of pixels. Do you even need anti-aliasing? Have you experimented a lot at that resolution with SS vs. anti-aliasing to arrive at your settings?

I usually play at 1440p in 2D. I have a full 4K profile, but my 28" screen is "only" 1440p, so it's downscaled. The difference is visible, but I don't think it's justified enough for the lost FPS, especially around planetary bases. I'm getting around 45-50 FPS around planetary bases on full 4K and everything maxxed out.

Bear in mind however that I run a custom-made and quite demanding (ca. 10 FPS) ReShade preset + some manual graphics setting modifications, like 4K textures for the galaxy and planets and increased number of little rocks on the surface, which all affects FPS a little (especially the rocks, as it's so many more objects to render, anti-alias, draw shadows on (and of) and so on.

Here's my rig for reference.

 

[CMDR Heisenberg B. Damned]

It's my naivety in all things Graphical settings rootsrat that is producing all these questions on this great forum. I just don't know enough about it, so ......... yes read up on it i hear you shout, and as i type this i have my other work monitor open on 'Graphical settings in games for dummies', and dummy i am, but i am learning and when i do i will be able to help other frustrated Noobs.

Thank you guys for all the answers

I'm going to go out on a limb here Wasp0...

You're not really sure what all the graphical settings mean, you have a high end spec PC, you don't know what settings you had before VR. Just get the drop down box with VR Low/VR High/VR Ultra etc. in it and scroll up to the bit where it says Ultra, not VR Ultra just Ultra.

If you didn't mess with the settings before VR then it's pretty certain it'll have defaulted to Ultra for your rig.

 

[Wasp0]

I'm going to go out on a limb here Wasp0...

You're not really sure what all the graphical settings mean, you have a high end spec PC, you don't know what settings you had before VR. Just get the drop down box with VR Low/VR High/VR Ultra etc. in it and scroll up to the bit where it says Ultra, not VR Ultra just Ultra.

If you didn't mess with the settings before VR then it's pretty certain it'll have defaulted to Ultra for your rig.

It's not so much those settings, as the ED Profiler makes choosing low - Ultra options, it's all the other choices one has to make which are not filled in for you after choosing Ultra........ like Blur, Bloom, SS, Anti-Aliasing, etc etc. Silly me did not make a note of these before diving in to the Rift, (There's that naivety bit again ).

Yes i am lucky enough to have an high end PC and can max almost everything out, but i guess it is my thirst for wanting the best and not knowing what choosing FSAA over MSAA will do. Yes i can try and see what looks best, but i kinda want to know why FSAA is better (Or worse) than the other choice in Anti-Aliasing, and what does Ambient do, and.......... so on and so on!

Don't worry, i'll go away soon and everyone will take a deep breath, that is until the next gadget hits the market

Take it easy B.Damned

 

[CMDR Heisenberg B. Damned]

It's not so much those settings, as the ED Profiler makes choosing low - Ultra options, it's all the other choices one has to make which are not filled in for you after choosing Ultra........ like Blur, Bloom, SS, Anti-Aliasing, etc etc. Silly me did not make a note of these before diving in to the Rift, (There's that naivety bit again ).

I thought that's what the Low/High/Ultra settings did - fill in all the other settings, just a shortcut to standard settings - although not got access to Elite to test right now so I could be 100% wrong but if you set it to Ultra and then change say Super Sampling doesn't it change it from Ultra to Custom?

 

[shadragon]

To save graphics profiles and have rapid changes between them use Dr. Kaii's lovely little program.

I swap between monitor and Vive easily using this. Plus, it backs up your settings in case of a fat-finger moment.

http://www.drkaii.com/tools/edprofiler/

 

[CMDR Heisenberg B. Damned]

I thought that's what the Low/High/Ultra settings did - fill in all the other settings, just a shortcut to standard settings - although not got access to Elite to test right now so I could be 100% wrong but if you set it to Ultra and then change say Super Sampling doesn't it change it from Ultra to Custom?

Just got home and tested this and Ultra does update all those settings you're not sure about. Click the + on quality and switch between low/mid/high and ultra and you'll see what I mean. As you're not familiar with the various types of AA (Super Sampling is also a type of AA as well) it just seems unlikely you played around that much with settings until you got a Rift so Ultra will likely get you back to where you were for monitor viewing.

 

[Alec Turner]

Just got home and tested this and Ultra does update all those settings you're not sure about. Click the + on quality and switch between low/mid/high and ultra and you'll see what I mean. As you're not familiar with the various types of AA (Super Sampling is also a type of AA as well) it just seems unlikely you played around that much with settings until you got a Rift so Ultra will likely get you back to where you were for monitor viewing.

To avoid further confusion, I suspect that the "Ultra" that Wasp0 is talking about is the "Ultra" in "ED Profiler" and not the "Ultra" in-game. I must say I'm still surprised that ED Profiler's presets don't set options like Blur and Bloom. In fact, what I suspect is the case is that ED Profiler's "Ultra" preset isn't as ultra as it sounds (i.e. it's still being conservative and is deliberately un-ticking Bloom and Blur). That will be down to drkaii's personal preferences (erring on the side of caution).

 

[CMDR Heisenberg B. Damned]

To avoid further confusion, I suspect that the "Ultra" that Wasp0 is talking about is the "Ultra" in "ED Profiler" and not the "Ultra" in-game. I must say I'm still surprised that ED Profiler's presets don't set options like Blur and Bloom. In fact, what I suspect is the case is that ED Profiler's "Ultra" preset isn't as ultra as it sounds (i.e. it's still being conservative and is deliberately un-ticking Bloom and Blur). That will be down to drkaii's personal preferences (erring on the side of caution).

Now I'm even more confused! The Ultra in my copy "Ed Profiler" does change those settings...

Low

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Med

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High

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Ultra

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Or have I missed the point ... again!

It doesn't change VR only stuff though like HMD Image Quality unless I click on the VR Low etc.