The push of Anarchy player groups into Federation systems.

Crazy_One

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How many systems will fall before the Federation wakes up and realizes that Anarchy Player groups such as Diamond Frogs are actively taking over systems even though they are not in power play? As a long time Federation supporter and former Zach Hudson member it pains me to see system after system fall. A number of us fought a tough fight Xihe to keep it from falling from the Federation. We lost because the player Group Space Poultry lost the system and the main orbital. Luckily the NPC faction Xihe Free and Political and Federation group took over. However this makes it much easier for the system to change hands.

The Frogs are not the only Anarchy group pushing out there but they are a large one, some 600 players.

I hope this is not completely new news to you all and you were aware of this.
 

Gunnar Manchild

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Power Play and their factions are more or less separate from the Background Simulation and player groups. I'm not entirely certain your player group losing a station and I guess begging for help is an on-topic post for a Power Play sub forum?
 

Crazy_One

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The system is a Zachory Hudson exploited system. The anarchy group is getting close to Zachary Hudson controlled systems, such as the control system Wolf 906, Gliese 868, LHS 3885 just to name a few right of the top of my head. They could easily directly impact you by causing you lose a system outside of powerplay. Powerplay and the BGS are tied together and can impact each other. It is not so much a call for help as it is a warning that a large player group is posing a direct threat to the Federation.
 

Arry

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This does sound like a plea for help of some kind.

At the same time, isn't this how the game is meant to be played? If a player group can work together and take system after system, all i can say is; fair play to them. Now it is up to other player groups that have an issue with this, to get together and reverse the situation. Take a leaf out of the frog's book and do something about it. Actions will always get better results, than just complaining about it.

Anyway: It's just a few Fed systems, so I say, 'Go Frogs and wipe them all from the galaxy'.
 

Deleted member 115407

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Crazy_One said:
How many systems will fall before the Federation wakes up and realizes that Anarchy Player groups such as Diamond Frogs are actively taking over systems even though they are not in power play? As a long time Federation supporter and former Zach Hudson member it pains me to see system after system fall. A number of us fought a tough fight Xihe to keep it from falling from the Federation. We lost because the player Group Space Poultry lost the system and the main orbital. Luckily the NPC faction Xihe Free and Political and Federation group took over. However this makes it much easier for the system to change hands.

The Frogs are not the only Anarchy group pushing out there but they are a large one, some 600 players.

I hope this is not completely new news to you all and you were aware of this.
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SP finally lost Zhen? Well, kudos on taking what many predicted as being a 5-day Diamond Frog steamroll and turning it into a three month-long slog through the mud for them. And DF lost control or presence in two other systems in the process. And the war isn't even over yet since DF still hasn't taken the orbital.

I don't see how Movement of Xihe owning Zhen makes it any more or less vulnerable to DF takeover? You have simply exchanged one faction name for another. Just call it Space Poultry II and keep on fighting. Moreover, if you pledge to Hudson you should be able to affect greater influence change with them, I think, since they are federation?

Lastly, in order for DF takeover of Xihe to affect Hudson, wouldn't they also have to flip 50% of the Wolf 906 systems to Hudson "weak against" governments, thereby increasing his fortify numbers? That's working 7 or eight other systems (at least), as almost every system in that exploit sphere is Fed Democracy/Corporate. Would they be willing to redirect their assets to doing such a thing, when it would leave them open to meddling in their 13 remaining systems?
 
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Limoncello Lizard

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There are Federal aligned anarchy factions, or there were. But they've been nearly wiped out by Federal powerplay. So maybe the Feds are getting what they deserve.
 

Gunnar Manchild

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Crazy_One said:
The system is a Zachory Hudson exploited system. The anarchy group is getting close to Zachary Hudson controlled systems, such as the control system Wolf 906, Gliese 868, LHS 3885 just to name a few right of the top of my head. They could easily directly impact you by causing you lose a system outside of powerplay. Powerplay and the BGS are tied together and can impact each other. It is not so much a call for help as it is a warning that a large player group is posing a direct threat to the Federation.
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First off, according to EDDB, Zachary Hudson controls three different systems that the Diamond Frogs are in. So they've probably shared space for quite some time now and if the Hudson Power Players even cared, they should know of the player factions in the area. The other Power Play Factions are the direct threat to Zachary Hudson, not some faceless horde of random players

Secondly, as far as ANY player faction causing any impact that it would "causing you lose a system outside of powerplay" that is a literal impossibility outside of Power Play. You cannot do that without moving Power Play specific items around at which point you're working outside of the Background Simulator. If you set in for an hour or so of mission running, profitable trade, or space combat, then you're operating outside of Power Play. Although it's easy to understand the point you're attempting to make, it's seems like you don't quite have a full grasp of either Power Play or the Background Simulation. The latter was almost completely separated from the former.
 

SeaFireliv

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Crazy_One said:
How many systems will fall before the Federation wakes up and realizes that Anarchy Player groups such as Diamond Frogs are actively taking over systems even though they are not in power play? As a long time Federation supporter and former Zach Hudson member it pains me to see system after system fall. A number of us fought a tough fight Xihe to keep it from falling from the Federation. We lost because the player Group Space Poultry lost the system and the main orbital. Luckily the NPC faction Xihe Free and Political and Federation group took over. However this makes it much easier for the system to change hands.

The Frogs are not the only Anarchy group pushing out there but they are a large one, some 600 players.

I hope this is not completely new news to you all and you were aware of this.
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Actually sounds good. I had the impression that Powerplay did nothing at all. The fact that people can actually affect things might wake up others to start fighting back. Get things interesting and creating a good soldier-team war. Good.
 
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Ouberos said:
I totally do t understand Power play. Can a power be removed from a system?
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A Powerplay power like Zachary Hudson can be replaced by Yuri Grom. Completely separate from the BGS retreat mechanics, which only applies to foreign Minor Factions.

Technically, in regards to Space Poultry, the conflict for control of Xihe never has to "end", since they will remain in Xihe indefinitely.
 

Ouberos

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Ah, so once a system has been swallowed by power play it cannot be regurgitated? So to speak .

No doubt, Poultry can fight back eventually.
 

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Ouberos said:
Ah, so once a system has been swallowed by power play it cannot be regurgitated? So to speak .

No doubt, Poultry can fight back eventually.
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Meaning can a "control" system revert to uncontrolled by any power? Yes, I believe that is how the Powerplay "turmoil" mechanic works. Otherwise, control systems can change hands as often as the PP system allows.

Yeah, Poultry can fight forever. There is no such thing as extermination in this game. I mean, it sucks for them to lose control of the system, and probably will suck even more if DF gain control of the system, but beyond that there will always be a "Space Poultry" faction.

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Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
 
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Crazy_One

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If a faction (including the Frogs) changes the system to Anarchy and they are not aligned with the Federation the system will fall out of Federation hands and into Yuri Gorum I think. One other important point, if a system leaves the Federation, the control system (Wolf 906) will lose some of its value since its income will be reduced by X amount. All systems in PP have a financial value attached to them. This can impact the Federation PP by an unknown amount. I am not a big fan of PP for personal reasons but that doesn't mean I want systems falling into anarchy.

I hope the leadership of the Federation do not take lightly the actions of the anarchy player groups.
 

Gunnar Manchild

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Crazy_One said:
If a faction (including the Frogs) changes the system to Anarchy and they are not aligned with the Federation the system will fall out of Federation hands and into Yuri Gorum I think. One other important point, if a system leaves the Federation, the control system (Wolf 906) will lose some of its value since its income will be reduced by X amount. All systems in PP have a financial value attached to them. This can impact the Federation PP by an unknown amount. I am not a big fan of PP for personal reasons but that doesn't mean I want systems falling into anarchy.

I hope the leadership of the Federation do not take lightly the actions of the anarchy player groups.
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You still don't quite understand what you're talking about. Zachary Hudson already has at least ***18*** anarchy systems under his banner and seems to be managing the systems the faction has well enough. One more anarchy won't tank them just like converting one of the current anarchies won't greatly help them. I mean, I guess this could come across as some sort of RP attempt because as far as call out or "those guys are bad and made me upset" rallies go, it's not convincing.
 
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