THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

For those that have come to the conclusion that the unknown ship is piloted by humans, here is where I'm stuck - what to do with the information? The powers will never admit to it if all we have is speculation, so how does one go about proving it, or twisting their arm in just the right way to make those responsible have no choice but to admit the truth? We cant do any damage to these unknown ships, we cant follow them or communicate with it, we cant actually perform any studies on the ship... what about where they have been constructed? A ship that size doesn't just pop up out of nowhere, so is there maybe a construction site somewhere? Maybe Col 70? I remember with 2.2 they added capital ship docks, though I haven't visited one yet personally. Could there be, somewhere im our galaxy, a dock where these ships are being built that we can find? With permit locks it womt be as simple as stumbling across such a location if it does it exist, but yeah my first guess would be Col 70. Maybe this distress signal from the cobra in Galnet found this site and were destroyed for it?

It's all part of the BGS plot. I would expect something is going on in COL 70, but whether it needs player interaction remains to be seen.

We know the emergency beacon has gone off, but is it in COL 70 permit locked or somewhere else in COL 70 sector as reported. Should we be there looking to help? Should we be trying to get the permit? Or should we just be waiting for 2.3? Who knows?
 
For those that have come to the conclusion that the unknown ship is piloted by humans, here is where I'm stuck - what to do with the information? The powers will never admit to it if all we have is speculation, so how does one go about proving it, or twisting their arm in just the right way to make those responsible have no choice but to admit the truth? We cant do any damage to these unknown ships, we cant follow them or communicate with it, we cant actually perform any studies on the ship... what about where they have been constructed? A ship that size doesn't just pop up out of nowhere, so is there maybe a construction site somewhere? Maybe Col 70? I remember with 2.2 they added capital ship docks, though I haven't visited one yet personally. Could there be, somewhere im our galaxy, a dock where these ships are being built that we can find? With permit locks it womt be as simple as stumbling across such a location if it does it exist, but yeah my first guess would be Col 70. Maybe this distress signal from the cobra in Galnet found this site and were destroyed for it?
The only sure way to ascertain whether or not the Unknown Ships are partly or wholly of human manufacture would be to actually capture one but in the meantime we have several things that we can do, which have already been shown to be possible:
  • Basic scan the Unknown Ships when encountered. This provides data materials.
  • View the loadouts of the Unknown Ships (basic scan required). These show some familiar modules, including a pulse laser, reportedly, although some are unknown.
  • Scan the High-Wake of the Unknown Ship when it leaves. This also provides data materials.
Perhaps a Community Goal could be used to collect the Unknown Ship Scans and their wake data, allowing a suitable engineer to determine if they include human technology or workmanship or crew, even if they are reverse-engineered from a non-human design (perhaps Elvira Martuuk, whose background description states that she has an interest in showing up whether alien artefacts are fakes or not, which is why she wants Soontill Relics, I think).
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A key issue here is: are there going to be other uses for these materials? Right now, they are not doing anything, just like the obelisk scan data I have from visiting the first ancient ruins site in 2.2.02. They must have been put in for a reason, though. Since we aren't getting any new engineers in 2.3 and none of the new blueprints use these materials, perhaps it would be better to use them to try and uncover the truth rather than hold on to them in the hope of getting a super-upgraded FSD or whatever in 2.4?
 
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Made it to my target system in EAFOTS part on a planet near the R-R line. Oddly my FSD stops working if it fall below 78% health. Stopped two time to use the AMFU to repair it. Part of the neutron lane I took had 11 jumps in a row of neutrons.

Streamed the end half of the flight.

[video=youtube_share;tcZQtKCPokk]https://youtu.be/tcZQtKCPokk[/video]



Flight log: https://www.edsm.net/en/user/flight-logs/id/12980/cmdr/Ishmair

Nuetron flight path based on my jump range of 40.82LY: https://www.spansh.co.uk/?from=Col ...6E6-0DA4-11E7-99DF-8023448CEB17&efficiency=30
 
The only sure way to ascertain whether or not the Unknown Ships are partly or wholly of human manufacture would be to actually capture one but in the meantime we have several things that we can do, which have already been shown to be possible:
  • Basic scan the Unknown Ships when encountered. This provides data materials.
  • View the loadouts of the Unknown Ships (basic scan required). These show some familiar modules, including a pulse laser, reportedly, although some are unknown.
  • Scan the High-Wake of the Unknown Ship when it leaves. This also provides data materials.
Perhaps a Community Goal could be used to collect the Unknown Ship Scans and their wake data, allowing a suitable engineer to determine if they include human technology or workmanship or crew, even if they are reverse-engineered from a non-human design (perhaps Elvira Martuuk, whose background description states that she has an interest in showing up whether alien artefacts are fakes or not, which is why she wants Soontill Relics, I think).
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A key issue here is: are there going to be other uses for these materials? Right now, they are not doing anything, just like the obelisk scan data I have from visiting the first ancient ruins site in 2.2.02. They must have been put in for a reason, though. Since we aren't getting any new engineers in 2.3 and none of the new blueprints use these materials, perhaps it would be better to use them to try and uncover the truth rather than hold on to them in the hope of getting a super-upgraded FSD or whatever in 2.4?

Yes to capture one would be the quite an achievement, buy most likely not within our means as commanders. Sort of reminds me of Moby , the hunt that is enough to drive a man crazy haha.

Speaking of Moby , another possible engineer that could be of assistance is Prof Ishmael Palin. His engineer specifically mentions Thargoids, and he is one of the top - if not the foremost - researchers in meta alloys and alien organisms. He has already applied his research to creating the CRCR and more that he has promised to share, and that's just the scraps he throws to the galaxy. Without a doubt he has more up his sleeve. The problem with Palin though is his loyalties are unclear, and it is more than likely he had a major role in creating these ships.

Maybe Palin will be more inclined to share what he knows if he doesn't have a Farragut Battlecruiser so close to his workshop? I dont know if they are there to protect him or intimidate him into silence but I doubt he will share his research with the galactic community with the Feds looking over his shoulder all the time.

I have yet to have an encounter with the unknown ship myself, so I have no data or scans. If there is some use for them as yet undiscovered then we need as much data from the ship as possible. To do that we need a consistent way of instigating these encounters, but as far as I know apart from a rough location there isn't any evidence to suggest any one person has more chance than another of being pulled out of witchspace.
 
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Yes to capture one would be the quite an achievement, buy most likely not within our means as commanders. Sort of reminds me of Moby , the hunt that is enough to drive a man crazy haha.

Speaking of Moby , another possible engineer that could be of assistance is Prof Ishmael Palin. His engineer specifically mentions Thargoids, and he is one of the top - if not the foremost - researchers in meta alloys and alien organisms. He has already applied his research to creating the CRCR and more that he has promised to share, and that's just the scraps he throws to the galaxy. Without a doubt he has more up his sleeve. The problem with Palin though is his loyalties are unclear, and it is more than likely he had a major role in creating these ships.

Maybe Palin will be more inclined to share what he knows if he doesn't have a Farragut Battlecruiser so close to his workshop? I dont know if they are there to protect him or intimidate him into silence but I doubt he will share his research with the galactic community with the Feds looking over his shoulder all the time.

I have yet to have an encounter with the unknown ship myself, so I have no data or scans. If there is some use for them as yet undiscovered then we need as much data from the ship as possible. To do that we need a consistent way of instigating these encounters, but as far as I know apart from a rough location there isn't any evidence to suggest any one person has more chance than another of being pulled out of witchspace.

Just visited Palin this afternoon to get some dirty drive tuning. I think the Fed battlecruiser has taken up a lower station over his base, but Interestingly as Iwas dropping out of OC a Sirius Transport was just leaving the planet.
 
the brown dwarf field just below EAFOTS stretches out in many Sectors all the way pass the other side of the R-R line. it's not very thick but dense. Scheau Phoe Sector

I was checking a lot of brown dwarf systems around Syreadiae last month... it was mind numbing as they all had basically the same ice world planets, it got a bit tedious, I even started concentrating on systems with 7 planets.. hoping for some type of breakthrough!.

Anyway I'm back checking systems around EAFOTS EU-R C4-1.. surprisingly there are still lots of unexplored systems.. I'm concentrating on ELW, Ammonia worlds and landable terraformable planets (o found yet).
I'm pleased to have found my second Ammonia world today as there does not seem to be many where I'm looking
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Also I think I've been to long in the rift as I'm sure this finger is pointing to something!
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I've just thought, in ED 2.3 b4 has anyone tried the ship based data link scanner on the various beacons in Eafots etc?
Typical I only noticed it heading out to the heart nebula! lol

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Ok I've arrived at the asteroid base now (very cool btw :)), I'll head back to the beacons to see if the DLS does anything with 'em.
Oh btw, on my trip here I found an unlisted ELW, IDK yet if it's been tagged in the live game.

To answer my own question about the DLS & a UCB, nothing! Doesn't even scan.
 
Maybe Palin will be more inclined to share what he knows if he doesn't have a Farragut Battlecruiser so close to his workshop? I dont know if they are there to protect him or intimidate him into silence but I doubt he will share his research with the galactic community with the Feds looking over his shoulder all the time.

Whilst I don't think it would make a difference (it would just withdraw and come back later) I would be 100% up for taking part in a group attack on it.
 
I feel like the day I was in my first sidewinder with plotting neutron paths with all the twist and turns. I was looking at my path I made to the bubble and back to EAFOTS using Neutron Stars. Compare to the one I one I made to EAFOTS without neutron stars

[video=youtube_share;o15Uajj3RzY]https://youtu.be/o15Uajj3RzY[/video]
 
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I've just thought, in ED 2.3 b4 has anyone tried the ship based data link scanner on the various beacons in Eafots etc?
Typical I only noticed it heading out to the heart nebula! lol

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Ok I've arrived at the asteroid base now (very cool btw :)), I'll head back to the beacons to see if the DLS does anything with 'em.
Oh btw, on my trip here I found an unlisted ELW, IDK yet if it's been tagged in the live game.

Did you get a chance to see what services are available at the Asteroid base? any screenshots etc?
 
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Loyal Federation citizen over here.
:)

Look - a squirrel! Over there! GO GO GO!!!

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Can we shoot up Palin's base while we are there? The guy is crooked as a dogs hind leg.

But dirty drives... Maybe when I have bought multiples in all sizes.

Just 2k LY from Eafots. Should get there tonight, scan all the bases and beacons, and then, finally, be on my way back to the bubble. do either of those two CoR bases/staging outposts/whatever take discovery data? I figure I may as well get allied, and grab some cahs before I venture back into the nasty world of open in the bubble.

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Yes to capture one would be the quite an achievement, buy most likely not within our means as commanders. Sort of reminds me of Moby , the hunt that is enough to drive a man crazy haha.

Speaking of Moby , another possible engineer that could be of assistance is Prof Ishmael Palin. His engineer specifically mentions Thargoids, and he is one of the top - if not the foremost - researchers in meta alloys and alien organisms. He has already applied his research to creating the CRCR and more that he has promised to share, and that's just the scraps he throws to the galaxy. Without a doubt he has more up his sleeve. The problem with Palin though is his loyalties are unclear, and it is more than likely he had a major role in creating these ships.

Maybe Palin will be more inclined to share what he knows if he doesn't have a Farragut Battlecruiser so close to his workshop? I dont know if they are there to protect him or intimidate him into silence but I doubt he will share his research with the galactic community with the Feds looking over his shoulder all the time.

I have yet to have an encounter with the unknown ship myself, so I have no data or scans. If there is some use for them as yet undiscovered then we need as much data from the ship as possible. To do that we need a consistent way of instigating these encounters, but as far as I know apart from a rough location there isn't any evidence to suggest any one person has more chance than another of being pulled out of witchspace.

Yeah... Palin is in on this pretty deep. Maybe not a full on patsy, but his public mentality has changed noticeably.
 
Am I missing something here? I didn't think there were any neutron stars between the bubble and the 5 that are on close approach to the Heart & Soul Nebulae?

First thing I did before heading out to the Rift for the first time was check the galmap for neutron stars to speed up the trip and I couldn't find any aside from the aforementioned 5.
 
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