Maaan these birds, when they gonna stop?
I blame the spice girls with all that "girl power nonsense" back in the 1990's
I blame the spice girls with all that "girl power nonsense" back in the 1990's
How very PC of Frontier....
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The PC theme runs even deeper. LFT 37 is home to the Paladin Consortium (PC) player group!
Freudian Slip showing?
Ooooh you just made me think. FDev could have simpled cocked up the text and it was actually meant for a guy LOL
Just why did I read this as "Freudian Slap" is beyond my comprehension.
That is actually a possibility. I saw a male say this and thought, "If they haven`t really worked on it, a female could end up saying this."
But either way they probably thought, "What the heck! It`s 2016, leave it in!"
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I think the fact that an entire thread exists to point out a gay female is in a game is quite telling of culture.
It's going to be a very long time before we get to the stage we are now with non-white people. Afterall, we don't put threads up saying 'oh look, a black man!' do we? And that's taken a fair number of centuries...
It's going to be a very long time before we get to the stage we are now with non-white people. Afterall, we don't put threads up saying 'oh look, a black man!' do we? And that's taken a fair number of centuries...
Again, this really doesn't qualify as news or shoving content in people's faces. FDev didn't send out a newsletter. I understand why people wouldn't want some explicit political manifesto from Frontier. But, instead of just expressing a lack of interest, you make it sound like we shouldn't be talking about a casually introduced gay "character." I don't think you intended the latter, but its effect can be rather pernicious.
I mean, you didn't see me complaining whenever someone posted a crew member that mentioned an opposite-sex partner. If we never discuss this, or character bios never mention same-sex partners, what are people going to assume? They (likely including myself) are going to assume that every single one is straight. I don't what that to happen, so I'm happy when things like this show up.
I was tempted to just dismiss your early comment about "SJW something something" as a troll, but then I saw your signature. Do you genuinely not like these handful of gay/ambigous crew member bios? Or people pointing them out?
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all right love, don't get your knickers in twist
I'm not arguing, this is certainly not "news-worthy", not even Donald Trump "fake news-worthy".
Should we talk about it? There is no way to type out the expression that question invokes, so let me try to explain...
Is it something that matters, one way or another? Is it actually discussion-worthy? To some, yes, probably. To others, probably not, and to others still, even the thought that such a thing could even exist is likely to incite them to torches and pitchforks, so they're probably better off not even knowing. I can't make that call. It's not a big deal to me, whoever, whatever, where ever - I have my life, other people have theirs, and that's all it takes for me to get by from one day to the next. There isn't enough time in all eternity to spend worrying about things like that.
I'm not complaining - in fact, I plead complete apathy on the matter. If the character bios don't mention the characters partners, I'm going to assume they are NPC's and I don't care what their history is, as long as they can fly and shoot my enemies. What they do in their spare time is their business. Or, in reality, they're just imaginary characters, and their bios really don't mean much anyways.
Now, if M. Virginia Goodman above happened to gain a combat bonus vs. Slave Traders, or suffered a penalty when engaging enemy ships with slaves onboard, then that bio would mean something, otherwise it's just flavor text, and it has the flavor of cardboard.
As another gay man and gamer, I agree.
I'm not sure you know how to interpret political correctness. Political correctness refers to political authorities controlling speech and ideas, not gays being offended or not. Example, the Soviet economy was factually broken, but saying 'the economy isn't working' is politically incorrect. Factually correct, but that's not important. Example 2, Trump stops scientists from reporting their findings, and demands they conform their research to his views. It's politically correct now to say climate change is not anthopocene
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The fact that we get a thread like this, frankly in my eyes, is scary, that homosexuality is still a 'topic' is a bit insane in my book, but unfortunately not surprising.
I treat people according to how they act what they say what they do, and they can be any and all sexuality and I really would not care, baring those that enjoy harming others, but that's where I draw the line, a rather sensible line in my book, if you aren't harming anyone, then why would it bother me if you have whatever sexuality, what would bother me significantly is how you act towards me and others, how you talk with me and others, what you do, your actions e.t.c. If you decide to be in my face about your sexuality and obnoxious about it? then I will likely dislike it, not because of sexuality, but because you are obnoxious about it.
Accept people as they are, which of course also should include respecting others limits, homosexual not accepting that a straight isn't interested in them, or not accepting personal space or similar. But again, that goes for anything? so yeah, why is sexuality as long as it isn't hurting anyone (and no, if someone is into pain you aren't hurting them) but yeah, so why is it still surprising that people are of whatever sexuality?
I treat people according to how they act what they say what they do, and they can be any and all sexuality and I really would not care, baring those that enjoy harming others, but that's where I draw the line, a rather sensible line in my book, if you aren't harming anyone, then why would it bother me if you have whatever sexuality, what would bother me significantly is how you act towards me and others, how you talk with me and others, what you do, your actions e.t.c. If you decide to be in my face about your sexuality and obnoxious about it? then I will likely dislike it, not because of sexuality, but because you are obnoxious about it.
Accept people as they are, which of course also should include respecting others limits, homosexual not accepting that a straight isn't interested in them, or not accepting personal space or similar. But again, that goes for anything? so yeah, why is sexuality as long as it isn't hurting anyone (and no, if someone is into pain you aren't hurting them) but yeah, so why is it still surprising that people are of whatever sexuality?
Eh, I think this is just a classic internet argument: no one wants to admit they pretty much agree with each other.
I guess the crux of it is that I'm uncomfortable with the overlap I perceive between "Meh, this is kinda neat but not news" and "we shouldn't talk about people being gay unless it's absolutely necessary." I don't think anyone genuinely means the latter, but that's what I sense from those who wish we weren't in this thread.
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Eh, I think this is just a classic internet argument: no one wants to admit they pretty much agree with each other.
I guess the crux of it is that I'm uncomfortable with the overlap I perceive between "Meh, this is kinda neat but not news" and "we shouldn't talk about people being gay unless it's absolutely necessary." I don't think anyone genuinely means the latter, but that's what I sense from those who wish we weren't in this thread.
I do believe that we are arguing that we agree here lol.
Not saying we shouldn't talk about gay people at all, or only if we have to.. but we CAN say the same for straight people - do we really need to talk about them? Do we really need to talk about people who love their [insert whatever here]? I'm going way out on a limb to say... we probably don't really NEED to talk about any of it... as long as no one else is causing a problem or breaking any laws, it's not really anything anyone else need concern themselves with, except those people directly involved in whatever it is they are involved in.. gah.. this is really hard to say in a non-verbal format.
We know people do IT. For the most part, disregarding the heart and soul of the internet and certain segment of the entertainment industry, that's really all anyone NEEDS to know. Who and with whom or what, or whatever, isn't anyone else's concern - or it shouldn't be, but humans are so nosy.
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I'm in a place at the moment where I have to play the pronoun game...
They get bonuses against slavers? Weird.
Let me start by saying that I agree with everything that Indigo has said. Couldn't have said it better myself, so multiple virtual reps coming your way.
I'm not sure where your sentences start and end here, but here's the deal - No matter how far into the future this spinning blue ball takes us, it will never ever ever ever not be a thing. It will always be a major concern of a large group of people somewhere, and will always be of minor concern to smaller groups of people and individuals everywhere else. That's just the way it is. Both positive and negative attitudes on the subject are going to wax and wane among various people and societies until the end of time.
They get bonuses against slavers? Weird.
Let me start by saying that I agree with everything that Indigo has said. Couldn't have said it better myself, so multiple virtual reps coming your way.
I'm not sure where your sentences start and end here, but here's the deal - No matter how far into the future this spinning blue ball takes us, it will never ever ever ever not be a thing. It will always be a major concern of a large group of people somewhere, and will always be of minor concern to smaller groups of people and individuals everywhere else. That's just the way it is. Both positive and negative attitudes on the subject are going to wax and wane among various people and societies until the end of time.
OP is probably just old. Everybody else seems to think it's not a big deal.
edit: uh, most people
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I hope not, I mean consider slavery, then and now, it may take a good while, but I think eventually it will end up being only a small minority at worst.