1) not going to happen. They may have the vision but they certainly do not have the Manpower/Talent
2) proof of number 1
Stream sniped and griefed while showing a newbie how to fly
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1) not going to happen. They may have the vision but they certainly do not have the Manpower/Talent
2) proof of number 1
stormyuk
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Yeh, I don't get it myself either. Just feel bad for the Sidewinder guy who prolly gets driven into Solo. Oh well.
Goose4291
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The big problem that fixing this issue through C&P is that ganking/griefing is very much a personal definition.
For example, I'd regard a 13th Legion (Imperial player group) RP heavy blockade of a Federal CG as perfectly fine, whereas others would be clutching at their rosary beads like survivors in a terrible disaster movie and screaming at frontier to shadowban them. :/
It's not a problem if bad/crime/ganking/griefing is left to each ingame entity. So a participant in such a blockade would be a bad guy to the Federation, but not the Empire. Maybe Fed ships are sent after him, which would have better chances of success in Federal space than Empire space, and so on.
Goose4291
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Nah your right in that respect. What Im trying to say is that to some, there is no difference between rolling into the starter systems with a Mur-Der-Lance and the aforementioned scenario, when in my eyes, there clearly is.
I think you're in the majority, along with me. Only the people who are going to whine at every cause of death wouldn't see the difference. As long as it was explained to them.
Yeah well, I completely blame FD for completely poor game mechanics and more to the point, FD did say that hunting down other commanders was part of the game.
What FD didn't tell players is that their horrendously game design decisions would lead to to dung like this. Yes, you should be able to kill any commander you want, but if you decide to do this you have to have the guts to deal with consequences. So I have some sympathy for the OP, not because they got killed, but because the game mechanics are so awful there is zero repercussions on the aggressor at all.
Personally, if I was in charge, I would redo the way players are introduced into the game.
1) I would permit starter systems and you would need a Pilots Federation Pass to enter, which is the permanently loss when the player leaves the system for the first time.
2) I would give new players a ship that can't travel between star systems, rather they have to work their way up to earning that sidey and 1000 credit starter ship.
3) To get that sidey as mention, they would have to learn the basics of flying, landing, tanking off, landing on planetary objects etc, basic trading, combat, etc etc.... Of course, the game is so basic in its core mechanics, it should take too long to grasp these.
4) The only way for experienced players to gain access to the system is to reset their accounts.... Of course, once again, the game is so pathetic, stupid and horrendously balanced, due to being designed by a bunch of spanners, they could billionaires in a couple of weeks or so.
Well, something along those lines, a much more slick mechanic, that fits with the rest of the game, but gives newbies a more interactive way of learning the game.
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The problem with FD, is that whilst you are right of that player group to blockade whatever system they want, the game is so shallow there is no consequence to their actions. If Imperials players did it to a federation system, the federation would declare war on them and dry hump them all over the place.
Most people crying greifing and crying like babies, basically what we have spoken about at length in TS... For all the pat on the backs FD get for there trying to be as real as possible... That realism soon goes out the window with the dung they have for core mechanics.
Fed players getting the best Imperial engineer mods..... make me laugh...
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So yeah, form a private group if you wanna teach someone the ropes.
Simple.
Simple.
Wow. The maturity levels are low with this one.
You're a funny guy...
Goose4291
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"As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a griefer. To me, being a griefer was better than being community ambassador. Even before I first wandered into the SDC's teamspeak, I knew I wanted to be a part of them. It was there that I knew that I belonged. To me, it meant being somebody in a community that was full of nobodies. They weren't like anybody else. I mean, they did whatever they wanted. They killed twitch streamers and nobody ever gave them a shadowban. In the 2.1 update when they camped engineer sites all night, nobody ever called the moderators...."
Just handed out a bunch of rep to the last 10 people in this thread (no idea what the posts said), just to rep this post... lol.
Reps all round.
Could have been worse mate. like a SWAT team bursting in your front door and your head surrounded by carbine weapons.
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Goose4291
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All joking aside, SWAT-ing is the scummiest thing on the planet, and a literal example of first world problems.
yep, and explaining the loaded submachine gun on the coffee table is sounding more and more pathetic and unbelievable...
Cheers Cmdr's
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I am DEFINITELY going to borrow this one... I don't even have a clue where it came from but it looks so appropriate.
"PK'ers" are mentally disturbed. However they lack insight into their emotional problems and think they're normal. It's part of internet MMO 101. Any game which requires a grind to get the best gear to participate in PVP successfully results in toxicity. Show me an MMO(RPG) pvp game which isn't full of toxic behaviours and chat. Only the obsessed with too much time and/or a willingness to exploit prevail and despite popular belief those mentally disturbed players aren't 12 year olds. They're usually males in their mid twenties.
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