Can you get a list of the 29 stars in Eradinus constellation, following from source to end?
If you take a list of the brightest stars, then in Hip classification, the 10th 7th 5th & 3rd stars are HIP, 18339, 9007, 13701, 7588, sum of which is HIP 48,635 which exists on inara, but I think the order should be along the river.
The 3200 phatheon meteor was discovered in 1983, classified in 1985, not quite the T-1319 which is a neat answer at 1984. But I would be inclined to follow the mythology more, phaethon reached the end of the river, I.e archenor, follow the path to make the story end, list of the star names to the constellation would help, yes looks like Archenor is the 29th, so which ones are 10,7,5,3?
That's going to be a long trip.
Distance from Sol for Eridani stars varies by > 1,500 LYs, so even assuming that you take them in distance order then you're looking at 3kLY. Doing them in alpha/omega sequence is going to be much greater.
You also have to figure out how you're dealing with multiple stars with the same name - for example, there are 9 stars which make up Tau Eridani, which are between 46 and 385 LY from Sol.
Didn't mean you have to visit, just mean get the names of main system star in Hip format, and the clues deduced talk about following the constellation and others mentioned the 29th star was achenor, so can't be that many stars to choose from. https://www.universeguide.com/constellation/eridanus was a link I found with info on Hip names, but lists in terms of brightness not following the 'river' route.
Anyway sounds like the Canon are ahead of the game, do they publish here?
Story and characters based on Greek mythology counterpoised in constellation naming. Therfore clues relate to mythology primarily with some wordy numbery puzzles giving reference. surely following the myths will avoid red herrings (like mine?). Is 29c planet conversion?
The Independent Rift Explorers Alliance is dedicated to solving the mystery of the Formidine Rift for the good of all humanity (and potentially Thargoidity), not just for the good of Kahina Tijani Loren.
This is the Formidine Rift Mystery thread. Not the Kahina Loren fan club. Many of us have read Reclamation and still eye Salome with suspicion. Others are here just for the mystery and haven't even read the book.
I think we are looking for a comet or other cyclical astronomical phenomenon that has occurred at least 10 times since 1984 (assuming 3303 as our starting reference, or "T").
Then we add together the years of its tenth occurrence, seventh, etc...
Perhaps the "DB-IB" is the clue to tell us the correct phenomenon?
Out of interest, has anybody worked out where 3200 Phaethon would be at that time. It orbits beyond mars to within mercurys orbit if I remember right, but I don't have the skills to work out if relevant
Out of interest, has anybody worked out where 3200 Phaethon would be at that time. It orbits beyond mars to within mercurys orbit if I remember right, but I don't have the skills to work out if relevant
'Phaethon's Reach' suggests you should be looking at the apogee.
Personally, I think it's referring to Capella, but it's not a Rift clue so I've not given it that much thought.
Yeah, I had that issue today too. But yes, my only possible reason to want to protect her at the moment is that I believe she has information that would be helpful to us. Unfortunately, I think she might be playing on that fact in order to to rally that support, with no inention of ever revealing said information. Or possibly she doesn't know as much as she lets on, and that is just a ruse for protection (though I think the former is more likely, otherwise she wouldn't be seen as such a great threat to the Empire).
I think we are looking for a comet or other cyclical astronomical phenomenon that has occurred at least 10 times since 1984 (assuming 3303 as our starting reference, or "T").
Then we add together the years of its tenth occurrence, seventh, etc...
Perhaps the "DB-IB" is the clue to tell us the correct phenomenon?
First every time I try to be helpful I usually make things worse.
But when I look at that whole thing especially the end "fi(0) T-1319 SUM(10,7,5,3)" it looks like a piece of stats or differential calculus written out long hand or spoken without the proper symbols,,,that's something like the function index/indice/value which approaches zero with the T limit = + - or / 1319 is part of the set or sum of the set (10,7,5,3),,,,the preceeding stuff DB-IB looks like sets definitions,,,or something like that. Normally I'd first look to figure out what that series sequence is, which I think has been done, and wonder if 1319 or -1319 is in it. Or first guess what is the sum of the series between -1319 and zero or between 0 and 1319 or between both 1319 and -1319 as they approach zero.
I don't know, I havne't touched the stuff for 20 years and have forgotten stuff I used to have tattooed to the inside of my skull. But the phrase ""fi(0) T-1319 SUM(10,7,5,3)"" can be read as a chunk of calculus without fiddling it.
Yeah, I had that issue today too. But yes, my only possible reason to want to protect her at the moment is that I believe she has information that would be helpful to us. Unfortunately, I think she might be playing on that fact in order to to rally that support, with no inention of ever revealing said information. Or possibly she doesn't know as much as she lets on, and that is just a ruse for protection (though I think the former is more likely, otherwise she wouldn't be seen as such a great threat to the Empire).
The thing that made me respect Salome was when she expressed remorse for all the innocents executed during the assault on the prison transport.
It was really classy the way she apologized to their families and offered to make reparations.
The thing that made me respect Salome was when she expressed remorse for all the innocents executed during the assault on the prison transport.
It was really classy the way she apologized to their families and offered to make reparations.
Ok, I think I might have a partial translation. The last term is still throwing me a bit and I've still got various possibilities/interpretations in mind but I'm going to stick my neck out and try for a full answer. I think what it says is:
"This is the culmination of a series of events that started in The Dark Wheel and have been playing out since."
(Just to be clear, I'm paraphrasing the meaning here rather than doing a literal word-by-word / term-by-term translation.)
It might also be a message to tell us to head to Xezaor, but it's not in the game according to EDSM (which could be a message in itself potentially)
Also possibly it could mean "This will be the end of a chapter"
Workings, term-by-term translation & other possibilities below:
DB-IB = DB hyphen IB (I thought DB minus IB at first) = David Braben & Ian Bell = Elite (The original game)
Fi(O) = Fiction, (O) = (The Novella) The Dark Wheel. (O) is a symbolic expression of a dark wheel. In the light on dark text in the vid, the wheel is the space between the ()s and the O, and hence dark.
T-1319 = 3303 - 1319 = 1984 (year of release of the original Elite and The Dark Wheel.
SUM(10,7,5,3) =... not completely sure on this one, but there's 4 terms, there's 4 games, ED is the latest in the series and in it's third year, so I'm making a bit of a leap and taking the whole term to refer to the sum of all the games.
Xezoar is if the last term is literally just the sum of the digits. Page 25 of The Dark Wheel is the end of a chapter, with a relatively small amount of text and not much going on apart from them heading on to Xezoar.
The last term could also be a whole host of other things as well though:
-the pages corresponding to the individual digits
-the first word of said pages
-the first letter of said pages
-the letters or words of the book corresponding to those digits
-the letters of "The Dark Wheel" corresponding to the digits
-as the line above but ignoring the space in "The Dark Wheel"
And so and so forth, hence why I've taken a stab at one of the more likely seeming interpretations.
Edit- oh, and I went through loads of mathematical possibilities first, got loads of things that look like co-ordinates, but the eventual interpretations of the terms that I finally reached just seem to connect far too well together to just be coincidence.
The thing that made me respect Salome was when she expressed remorse for all the innocents executed during the assault on the prison transport.
It was really classy the way she apologized to their families and offered to make reparations.
She's not responsible for that. I have no doubt their sacrifice was knowingly voluntary and their families were well taken care of instead of being wiped out to the 6th degree. That Cuthrick, what a cutup!
She's not responsible for that. I have no doubt their sacrifice was knowingly voluntary and their families were well taken care of instead of being wiped out to the 6th degree. That Cuthrick, what a cutup!
Ok, I think I might have a partial translation. The last term is still throwing me a bit and I've still got various possibilities/interpretations in mind but I'm going to stick my neck out and try for a full answer. I think what it says is:
"This is the culmination of a series of events that started in The Dark Wheel and have been playing out since."
(Just to be clear, I'm paraphrasing the meaning here rather than doing a literal word-by-word / term-by-term translation.)
It might also be a message to tell us to head to Xezaor, but it's not in the game according to EDSM (which could be a message in itself potentially)
Also possibly it could mean "This will be the end of a chapter"
Workings, term-by-term translation & other possibilities below:
DB-IB = DB hyphen IB (I thought DB minus IB at first) = David Braben & Ian Bell = Elite (The original game)
Fi(O) = Fiction, (O) = (The Novella) The Dark Wheel. (O) is a symbolic expression of a dark wheel. In the light on dark text in the vid, the wheel is the space between the ()s and the O, and hence dark.
T-1319 = 3303 - 1319 = 1984 (year of release of the original Elite and The Dark Wheel.
SUM(10,7,5,3) =... not completely sure on this one, but there's 4 terms, there's 4 games, ED is the latest in the series and in it's third year, so I'm making a bit of a leap and taking the whole term to refer to the sum of all the games.
Xezoar is if the last term is literally just the sum of the digits. Page 25 of The Dark Wheel is the end of a chapter, with a relatively small amount of text and not much going on apart from them heading on to Xezoar.
The last term could also be a whole host of other things as well though:
-the pages corresponding to the individual digits
-the first word of said pages
-the first letter of said pages
-the letters or words of the book corresponding to those digits
-the letters of "The Dark Wheel" corresponding to the digits
-as the line above but ignoring the space in "The Dark Wheel"
And so and so forth, hence why I've taken a stab at one of the more likely seeming interpretations.
Edit- oh, and I went through loads of mathematical possibilities first, got loads of things that look like co-ordinates, but the eventual interpretations of the terms that I finally reached just seem to connect far too well together to just be coincidence.
Ok, I think I might have a partial translation. The last term is still throwing me a bit and I've still got various possibilities/interpretations in mind but I'm going to stick my neck out and try for a full answer. I think what it says is:
"This is the culmination of a series of events that started in The Dark Wheel and have been playing out since."
(Just to be clear, I'm paraphrasing the meaning here rather than doing a literal word-by-word / term-by-term translation.)
It might also be a message to tell us to head to Xezaor, but it's not in the game according to EDSM (which could be a message in itself potentially)
Also possibly it could mean "This will be the end of a chapter"
Workings, term-by-term translation & other possibilities below:
DB-IB = DB hyphen IB (I thought DB minus IB at first) = David Braben & Ian Bell = Elite (The original game)
Fi(O) = Fiction, (O) = (The Novella) The Dark Wheel. (O) is a symbolic expression of a dark wheel. In the light on dark text in the vid, the wheel is the space between the ()s and the O, and hence dark.
T-1319 = 3303 - 1319 = 1984 (year of release of the original Elite and The Dark Wheel.
SUM(10,7,5,3) =... not completely sure on this one, but there's 4 terms, there's 4 games, ED is the latest in the series and in it's third year, so I'm making a bit of a leap and taking the whole term to refer to the sum of all the games.
Xezoar is if the last term is literally just the sum of the digits. Page 25 of The Dark Wheel is the end of a chapter, with a relatively small amount of text and not much going on apart from them heading on to Xezoar.
The last term could also be a whole host of other things as well though:
-the pages corresponding to the individual digits
-the first word of said pages
-the first letter of said pages
-the letters or words of the book corresponding to those digits
-the letters of "The Dark Wheel" corresponding to the digits
-as the line above but ignoring the space in "The Dark Wheel"
And so and so forth, hence why I've taken a stab at one of the more likely seeming interpretations.
Edit- oh, and I went through loads of mathematical possibilities first, got loads of things that look like co-ordinates, but the eventual interpretations of the terms that I finally reached just seem to connect far too well together to just be coincidence.
You are onto something there... but I might be able to shed some light on the four digits...
10 years after the original elite - 1994 - Before :dangerous, the last elite game was Frontier:First Encounters
7 years after the original elite Elite Plus released on Dos 1991 - Also the same year as ARC elite was released
5 years after original elite - Elite goes on amiga 1989
3 years after elite - Elite original ported to PC 1987
Yes I was thinking along these lines, all elite versions.
DB minus IB, frontier elite 2 10th letter L
Fi (0), somehow Frontier first encounter 7th letter E
T-1319, Elite 5th letter E
Then Lee but run out of words...
LEEsti?
Doesn't fit does it...
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