General / Off-Topic Nigel Farage says EU gangsters owe the UK billions
- Thread starter Cosmo
- Start date
Have to be honest, the polit bureau does kind of remind me of too (Sepp Blatter/Berlusconi types imo) but seven hundred million euros, spent by EU to improve to Scicily water supplies that ended up getting worse (!!) is a classic among a fair few, staggering waste stories. "Wrapped around their little finger," springs to mind and/or "useless" whether actively corrupt or not. http://www.voxeurop.eu/en/content/article/356171-sicily-gobbler-eu-funds
Last edited:
And ultimately through the EU, the poor morons, it is us, the people. It is our money which is stolen, and it is the debts of banks and the financiers, not our debts
Last edited:
X-Terminator
Banned
Nigel huh. He says stuff just because he is in the opposition. He knows it doesn't matter what he says because he never gets a listen.
Avago Earo
Banned
Look at them all. Do you want to be a part of that?
I liked the head of Juncker and Barnier at 2 minutes in the video
Last edited:
The narrative of the Brexit leave campaign was based on two fundamental pillars:
1) Germany runs the EU & German car makers run Germany.
2) The EU & Eurozone are sick & are going to collapse any day now.
That's all. Everything else was pure noise. There was a genuine belief, among Farage and his ilk, that Europe would be so desperate to keep Britain in the fold it would be begging to give Britain a trade deal.
Now, regarding these two things, it has become apparent that:
1) Germany don't own the EU, and even if they did they value EU stability far more than UK consumerism.
2) The EU is actually strengthening, not weakening.
So the weakness that the Brexiteers were going to try to use to force a deal have been exposed as delusions, and Brexit a reckless gamble that didn't pay off. Even Farage, the most unhinged of all of the Brexiteers, is acknowledging the problem the UK has. He has gone from "you're in denial, give us a deal, we're leaving" to "you're like the Mafia! This is so unfair!"
Britain has the option of just walking away completely. But it doesn't want to. Even the people behind leave know this would be catastrophic....
[video=youtube;0xGt3QmRSZY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xGt3QmRSZY[/video]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...much-that-britain-is-part-of-europe--and-alw/
Well here it is. Article 50 triggered. And the EU response was "agree to this, or be on your way", with quite a comprehensive list of things that give the UK a worse deal than the one it already has. That's that then, the EU obviously can do without the UK but the reverse is not the case. Going into negotiations in this position is like playing poker against someone who can see all of your cards.
So now that the intellectual arguments for Brexit have collapsed all that is left is for the Brexiteers to either complain to Europe and insult them for not giving the UK everything it wants, or to deny completely what is happening. They're pretty much all rich guys anyway, they'll be ok. The little plebs they hoodwinked into voting for this? Well they don't really care to much about that.
1) Germany runs the EU & German car makers run Germany.
2) The EU & Eurozone are sick & are going to collapse any day now.
That's all. Everything else was pure noise. There was a genuine belief, among Farage and his ilk, that Europe would be so desperate to keep Britain in the fold it would be begging to give Britain a trade deal.
Now, regarding these two things, it has become apparent that:
1) Germany don't own the EU, and even if they did they value EU stability far more than UK consumerism.
2) The EU is actually strengthening, not weakening.
So the weakness that the Brexiteers were going to try to use to force a deal have been exposed as delusions, and Brexit a reckless gamble that didn't pay off. Even Farage, the most unhinged of all of the Brexiteers, is acknowledging the problem the UK has. He has gone from "you're in denial, give us a deal, we're leaving" to "you're like the Mafia! This is so unfair!"
Britain has the option of just walking away completely. But it doesn't want to. Even the people behind leave know this would be catastrophic....
[video=youtube;0xGt3QmRSZY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xGt3QmRSZY[/video]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...much-that-britain-is-part-of-europe--and-alw/
Well here it is. Article 50 triggered. And the EU response was "agree to this, or be on your way", with quite a comprehensive list of things that give the UK a worse deal than the one it already has. That's that then, the EU obviously can do without the UK but the reverse is not the case. Going into negotiations in this position is like playing poker against someone who can see all of your cards.
So now that the intellectual arguments for Brexit have collapsed all that is left is for the Brexiteers to either complain to Europe and insult them for not giving the UK everything it wants, or to deny completely what is happening. They're pretty much all rich guys anyway, they'll be ok. The little plebs they hoodwinked into voting for this? Well they don't really care to much about that.
Good summary Fuzzy. I hope that this farse will at least serve as a lesson on the dangers of nationalist populism, and expose Russian information warfare.
Our societies need to be innoculated against this kind of manipulation. It looks like it's the UK who gets to serve as the sociology lesson.
Our societies need to be innoculated against this kind of manipulation. It looks like it's the UK who gets to serve as the sociology lesson.
X-Terminator
Banned
The UK demands respect...for stopping Hitler and saving all of Europe and at the cost of this!
Who the hell do the EU think they are anyway by making demands for payment to exit and even bribe us by holding us over a barrel of a gun by saying if we don't pay and run away instead then it will become even worse than the already even worse deal they shove at us?
Who the hell are they???
Our Queen will pay them a visit and make them choke on their knees!!!
Who the hell do the EU think they are anyway by making demands for payment to exit and even bribe us by holding us over a barrel of a gun by saying if we don't pay and run away instead then it will become even worse than the already even worse deal they shove at us?
Who the hell are they???
Our Queen will pay them a visit and make them choke on their knees!!!
Last edited:
We should electronically shut down all their defence systems, we can do that, then nuke Spain. That would get the worlds attention. Now how do we get Nigel to visit Spain at the right time?
Sarcasm is difficult on a forum. This comes across as a rather mixed message, as you can't possibly be serious, but you also seem upset.
Avago Earo
Banned
Hey, you know how you go on about how your life's so hard, yeah? And brexit is so bad, yeah? Well try this on for size, okay. My friend fgot murdered l;ast week. I don't know how to cope. http://uknip.co.uk/2017/03/man-arrested-for-murder-of-winchester-man-carl-scott/
What woulfd you do. How would you talk top anyone? Do you know anything. My m,ater is dead. cops say his body was peppered with bullet holes. Wanna bla bla?
What woulfd you do. How would you talk top anyone? Do you know anything. My m,ater is dead. cops say his body was peppered with bullet holes. Wanna bla bla?
Avago Earo
Banned
You don't know what you're talking about,. do you? It's just words. I've seen so many bodies. You haven't. Juist do one. We'll sort it out. My mate is a corpse. It means nothing to you. I hate your pretend caring. Go on; bring my friend back to life. What, you can't? And you're surprised that people voted to leave the EU? You do understand what the referendum was asking, don't you? Well, to be clear, the question was thus: 'Do you want the Unted Kingdom to be a member of the European Union' Tjat was it. It was not: 'Racist' That is a cheap cowardly cop out. You know it and I know it.
I won't get my mate back but anyone who thinks murder is okay... well meet me.
I won't get my mate back but anyone who thinks murder is okay... well meet me.
I feel that because there's a fiscal pressure on public infrastucture, cuts to police or putting loads of people on zero-hour contracts causing sickness and depression. All out of control. You've got my sympathy anyway Cmdr.
Meanwhile ; Wages. No fewer than ten thousand Brussels bureaucrats earn more than our PM's salary of £142,500. All the five-star perks go with. Regulations. According to Open Europe think tank, the top 100 EU regulations alone cost the UK £33.3 billion in 2014. Good regulations or not, you have no direct democratic access to hold then to account because the EU Government and State are inseperable. Travel. famous example, every week EU parliamentarians, commissioners, civil servants and truckloads of documents travel from Brussels to Strasburg, and back again, at a cost of £150 million a year and one of my favs; A Blogging Donkey. To help the “integration of European peoples”, a real-life donkey travelled around Europe ‘blogging’ about its experiences as it went – at a cost of £6.3 million – and any government, spending public money to promote itself, smacks way way way too much of Goebels' Office of Information to me.
Last edited:
if you're going to quote the costs in that report, it's dishonest not to mention the same report also concluded that the benefits of the same regulations were far greater Han the costs (I don't have the figure to hand but it's in the £50bn neighbourhood IIRC) so the regulations you complain about are a net benefit to the UK.
As for us having no input, our democratically elected government has a powerful input into those regulations.
Last edited:
According to the European "Think Tank"? Go figure?
I wouldn't mind knowing how much the blogging donkey netted ...
but believe me I stuck to sensible stuff on that (do read the article on Scicily water)
Other 'interesting' organisations that have received EU funding are, the Unions, especially;
UNITE, NFU, TUC, GMB, Communications Workers !! .. NUS !
source
no wonder they campaigned remain?
I wonder who paid for all those shiny Euro flag remain posters ... answer: tax payers? (just think about that!)
Last edited: