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Politics (or, rather, politicians) repulse me. There are very few honest politicians. By that I mean politicians who realise and understand that they are the voice of their constituents. An honest politician will express the view of their constituents (regardless of the politicians' personal opinion or what their party asks them to do).
 
Politics (or, rather, politicians) repulse me. There are very few honest politicians. By that I mean politicians who realise and understand that they are the voice of their constituents. An honest politician will express the view of their constituents (regardless of the politicians' personal opinion or what their party asks them to do).

An honest politician is a contradiction in terms... there is no such thing. Politics and honesty are anathema.

The problem with democracy is politicians. Get rid of them and the system would work.
 
Politics (or, rather, politicians) repulse me. There are very few honest politicians. By that I mean politicians who realise and understand that they are the voice of their constituents. An honest politician will express the view of their constituents (regardless of the politicians' personal opinion or what their party asks them to do).

I'd be interested to see that in action. Just imagine the newly-elected politician's first speech to parliament/congress/whatever:

"On behalf of my constituents I would like to say that I am pathologically incompetent, a compulsive liar, an egomaniac, and a serial recipient of bribes. I am only here because my constituents had an even worse opinion of the other candidates, though why this should be so I don't have the faintest idea..."
 
I'd be interested to see that in action. Just imagine the newly-elected politician's first speech to parliament/congress/whatever:

"On behalf of my constituents I would like to say that I am pathologically incompetent, a compulsive liar, an egomaniac, and a serial recipient of bribes. I am only here because my constituents had an even worse opinion of the other candidates, though why this should be so I don't have the faintest idea..."

I always think about running for local office, but what's it pay?? I make pretty good money and benefits at my day job. If I was mayor, county board member, or a state/federal congressman, what would that commitment be like? It seems most politicians are folks that are independently wealthy and have no need for income dependency. Perhaps that is part of the problem? Should it be a "real job?"
 
An honest politician will express the view of their constituents (regardless of the politicians' personal opinion or what their party asks them to do).

I don't think honest politicians actually exist. Maybe in the distant future when even politicians are replaced by machines you might be able to find examples of them but don't quote me on that.
 
Politics (or, rather, politicians) repulse me. There are very few honest politicians. By that I mean politicians who realise and understand that they are the voice of their constituents. An honest politician will express the view of their constituents (regardless of the politicians' personal opinion or what their party asks them to do).

You mean the kind that use focus groups to determine what the voters want to hear so the can get elected rather than having any convictions of their own?

To each his own I guess...
 
You mean the kind that use focus groups to determine what the voters want to hear so the can get elected rather than having any convictions of their own?

To each his own I guess...

New Labour, in a nutshell...
 
You mean the kind that use focus groups to determine what the voters want to hear so the can get elected rather than having any convictions of their own?

To each his own I guess...

No, I meant constituents, and not lobby groups with their own agenda.

Try reading "Executive Orders" by Tom Clancy. For reasons I won't explain Jack Ryan ends up as President of the USA. For the same reasons almost all of the elected politicians are killed, and Ryan asks the people of the USA to elect people who get things done (which, for the majority, they do). These people do not have to have political experience, but are good at what they do. Ryan then gets very successful people to take on major roles within his government. An ethical man who ran a very successful investment house gets given the role of Secretary of State for the Treasury, while another man who ran a military engineering firm ends up running the Defence Department. They not only get things done, but done well and at realistic financial levels.

One group of people who get upset are the lobbyists. They get completely blanked.
 
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In the same mug? Thats like putting Democrats and Republicans in the same room together. They might have to interact with each other.

Yep. A teabag with coffee under it. Then I pour water and milk in. Then I eat it.
 

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Look on the bright side...you dont live in a country where convicted terrorists sit in government and given the official seal of approval by the free world...

Northern Ireland...whose political system has collapsed because politicians were caught out over a half billion pound heating scam the rest of us will pay for ^
 
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