Ship name censored - turn off

[Mikkel Toxwenius]

I dont even think user ratings is what keeps Frontier censoring. Frontier has decided they want to be "family friendly" and it their wisdom have deemed swearing or obscene words non-family friendly. Period. Thus it shall be censored so that online interactions shall remain family friendly.

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Oh I saw a good one "full of sea-men". You think that'd float?

 

[Garagiste]

That has nothing to do with "political correctness", but with money.
If you want to sell your game in germany, you can't display the swastika.
It's illegal, and will get the game blacklisted, as simple as that.

Which is entirely understandable, and also rather a shame as it was all peace and love until it was appropriated: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29644591

What really annoys me is that you can't get historically accurate F1 models anymore as the liveries were predominately tobacco products. As though that's likely to make anybody start smoking.

 

[nanite2000]

How many ships do you see in the real world with obscene names? Zero? Well then why should it be any different with spaceships?

http://www.allthingsboat.com/boat-names/dirty-boat-names/

Ah, fair enough. Although those real names are nowhere near as bad as some of the unfiltered usernames I see on sites like Reddit (and, I suspect, what some players would try to get away with in-game if it was unfiltered).

You've changed my opinion though - I'd be happy for FDev to include an 'censor' switch, as long as it tied in with the player 'block' feature. That way, not only would I not have to see an immature player's obscene ship name, I would also not have to interact with him in-game at all.

win-win.

(But seriously, how is this any different to player names being censored/filtered? Why does this even warrant a whole dedicated thread?)

 

[Rhaedas]

A thread or two is warranted because of how hyper sensitive the filter is, so even common words become ***ed.

 

[Old Duck]

Here in America, we beat PEGI with baseball bats.

Down with censorship.
Down with whining parental groups who shouldn't or often do not, have children in the first place minding everyone else's business but their own.
Down with whining in general. Grow a pair and act like a human being.

You seem to be whining about whiners and censorship while promoting the censorship of said whiners...

 

[nanite2000]

A thread or two is warranted because of how hyper sensitive the filter is, so even common words become ***ed.

Isn't it the same filter that's used when creating a Commander name though?

 

[Katkon]

Haven't read the entire thread, but IMO FD should absolutely keep censorship in place on the naming front. Too many silly, immature and frankly unrealistic names would otherwise be introduced. This thread is proof positive of that very fact!

 

[Kaltern]

I'm sure Filter toggling is coming. Only £4 from the store...

 

[Shar]

Adolecents i assume, I want to use bad words and i want everybody else to see them, something a little wierd with you lot. quite sad really.

 

[IndigoWyrd]

Isn't it the same filter that's used when creating a Commander name though?

I can live with my own double standards and even admit to them.

Standards are a good thing, so good in fact, why not double them?

 

[Citizen Joe]

Haven't read the entire thread, but IMO FD should absolutely keep censorship in place on the naming front. Too many silly, immature and frankly unrealistic names would otherwise be introduced. This thread is proof positive of that very fact!

So you're concerned with silly names? God damn.... do you ban your children from having fun or something since they might do something weird or slightly rude? And what is "unrealistic" pray tell? There's a real, actual ship in dock near where I live with its name registered as "The Gammonflaps"

Letting people have whatever names they want works fine in practice. Just look at EvE. Ship names have been there from the start, so there is no novelty to speak of, zero censorship, save for restrictions on swearing in the support chat, and you very VERY rarely see any ship name that could be considered outright offensive in any sense (like maybe one in twenty thousand), and most are actually legit names. I don't see why things would be significantly different once the novelty wears off in Elite.

 

[nanite2000]

So you're concerned with silly names? God damn.... do you ban your children from having fun or something since they might do something weird or slightly rude?

Let's turn that around a second - do you let your children get away with swearing at you and at other people? If you don't allow your children to do that, then you are in favour of censorship to an extent.

Also, again - I don't recall this big a fuss being made over the censorship filter on commander names. Why are people upset that it's there for ship names?

 

[bitstorm]

Let's turn that around a second - do you let your children get away with swearing at you and at other people? If you don't allow your children to do that, then you are in favour of censorship to an extent.

Also, again - I don't recall this big a fuss being made over the censorship filter on commander names. Why are people upset that it's there for ship names?

I don't think it is the same for CMDR names is it?

Like if a CMDR called themselves Embassy as per https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/342204-Ship-Name-Profanity-Filter-is-Too-Strict , it would be asterisked out for everyone else?

 

[RhymeRhyme]

PEG17 or whatever ... What happened to the good old times when kids did not get raised like little idiots? When I was 13, my mum was at work all day (no daddy around), she gave me the key and said, if you lose it, you'll have to wait outside all day until I'm back 10.30 p.m. We played outside all day, in the deepest woods, doing whatever we wanted. This overprotection of kids turns them into little idiots. I really mean it.

In the neighbourhood of friends of mine lived a pedophile (<- correct spelling??). We went there sometimes as he got a lot of C64 games and many kids were there. But even with 13 we weren't that stupid not to ask ourselves why he's so nice to us and driving us to the swimming pool etc. Kids aren't idiots and I think we shouldn't treat them like idiots.

 

[Kayweg]

I'm well aware of the sensitivity surrounding the image of the hakenkreuz, having spent a good few years in Germany and having been married to a German woman for 26 years...But purely as a historical reference, namely that suggested by the content of the game and being able to display the same image when playing online, even in an appropriate context, defeats the object of the exercise...

Previous versions of the game sold just as well in Germany as anywhere else considering how many German players I find online playing IL2, Cliffs of Dover... which had no such restriction on it's visual content... as far as I'm aware...

This over zealous censorship still stems from a flawed ideal of political correctness... the truth is, you can't learn from history if you hide or deliberately omit the parts of it you don't find palatable.

I don't necessarily disagree with parts of your conclusion, but that's a discussion way beyond the topic of the OP and out of place on this forum i think.
It is in the end much easier and more profitable for publishers to avoid this legal tripwire, and implement these graphical adjustments...that's all i was getting at.

 

[grytpype-thynne]

Thanks everyone for posting, I'm having a whale of a time reading the comments on this.
I hadn't really noticed it's a PEG7 rating and so knowing that I can understand the filtering on Commander and Ship names, they have standards to adhere to and they stick with it.

As someone else mentioned seeing on Reddit, and I've seen on other post comments sections, the names that people use you roll your eyes at and label them as puerile 12 year olds.

An excellent point about the videos people can share and commander/ship names, I've not posted any myself yet and therefore wonder is there any kind of rating 18+ hoops people have to jump through to get a simple ship journey posted.

It is a pity that risqué names rather then downright offensive come under the same banner, but there it is. I'm more than happy to not see variants of Slartibartfast's original script name, and can't quite see that the filtering is such an issue. To add content filtering as a personal game preference in an open game surely would add even more complexity to the game dynamics, oh this person doesn't like rude names, but the other 3 people do. Then with multi crew thrown into the mix with different preferences, I can understand the one rule for everyone it's either a free for all or restricted not half measures.

 

[Lori Jameson]

If this is the kind of issue that people are complaining about, then well done FDev.

Morally questionable issue like drugs and slaves are much bigger subjective political topics that FDev have decided to implement themselves, and are not 'obscene' in and of themselves. It's not the same as some immature player coming up with yet another creative way to insert swear words into the game.

How many ships do you see in the real world with obscene names? Zero? Well then why should it be any different with spaceships?

I think FDev are right to censor obscene names.

So, basically - tough luck OP. You'll have to get your kicks some other way.

If you've ever heard the colorful euphimisms used to 'nick name' particular craft over the years, judging by your reaction to a censor vocabulary toggle switch, you'd probably blush with embarrasment being in the same sightline with said craft.

Though, I do think the censor is odd considering the overall subject matter; It may be for the best restricting ship names. However, when we get to walk around space stations I'd expect profanity occasionally coming from the locals. Otherwise, it would seem too odd. EX. Pilots, Pirates, Mechanics, Bar-patrons that don't swear.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

My own personal opinion, obviously, but I'm quite happy not to be flying around a galaxy populated by ships that look like they were named by Beavis and Butthead.

 

[Lori Jameson]

My own personal opinion, obviously, but I'm quite happy not to be flying around a galaxy populated by ships that look like they were named by Beavis and Butthead.

I'm imagining that right now. A crudely named Cobra Mk.3 with a pair of CMDR's that look like said duo.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

I'm imagining that right now. A crudely named Cobra Mk.3 with a pair of CMDR's that look like said duo.

*Batman pose* Quick! To the Holo-Me cave!