THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

Archon Valec

Archon Valec
Baton said:
Any small very well trained group has quite a good chance of killing one unexperienced pilot, then hundreds of tinfoil hat enthusiasts in protecting said pilot. SDC knows how to deal with instancing problems together quickly, when we will be debating on what colour of flowers Salomé prefers and who is worthy to speak to her first :)

Is someone from CoR organising any support I could be a part of? Who should I speak to?
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Best bet is to come introduce yourself on our Discord Server. The visitor's lobby is accessible to the public.

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Also FYI:

ObsidianAnt doing an interview with Drew on April 20th, Poste questions HERE
 
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L.S Algir

L.S Algir
Baton said:
Salomé was the leader of Children of Raxxla last time I checked :)
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Hmmm yes of course , I wasn't precise enough .... I mean she may perhaps be able to handle herself in military terms ;)

Jorki Rasalas said:
T= Current date (in-game) =3303-1319=1984, the date the original Elite was released. ;)
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Râgnôs said:
If T equals the current year in game. 3303-1319=1984
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Ah , much kind of you both , I didn't notice that.... thought it was AD . I missed some obvious things I fear . Where this "T for year" comes from ? ( sorry to be dumb ).

Anyway if this gives the date of the first Elite game then perhaps there is some clue to find in there.... I know the Dark Wheel short novel is not canon anymore but it is also stated that it has been at the basis of the new lore. Let's try investigate there.
 

Thatchinho

Thatchinho
L.S Algir said:
Ah , much kind of you both , I didn't notice that.... thought it was AD . I missed some obvious things I fear . Where this "T for year" comes from ? ( sorry to be dumb ).

Anyway if this gives the date of the first Elite game then perhaps there is some clue to find in there.... I know the Dark Wheel short novel is not canon anymore but it is also stated that it has been at the basis of the new lore. Let's try investigate there.
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Don't really like quoting one of my own posts, but as your line of thinking seems to be heading that direction then hey ho, may as well.

See in the spoiler for how the Dark Wheel may be a specific part of the code.

Thatchinho said:
Ok, I think I might have a partial translation. The last term is still throwing me a bit and I've still got various possibilities/interpretations in mind but I'm going to stick my neck out and try for a full answer. I think what it says is:

"This is the culmination of a series of events that started in The Dark Wheel and have been playing out since."

(Just to be clear, I'm paraphrasing the meaning here rather than doing a literal word-by-word / term-by-term translation.)

It might also be a message to tell us to head to Xezaor, but it's not in the game according to EDSM (which could be a message in itself potentially)

Also possibly it could mean "This will be the end of a chapter"

Workings, term-by-term translation & other possibilities below:

DB-IB = DB hyphen IB (I thought DB minus IB at first) = David Braben & Ian Bell = Elite (The original game)

Fi(O) = Fiction, (O) = (The Novella) The Dark Wheel. (O) is a symbolic expression of a dark wheel. In the light on dark text in the vid, the wheel is the space between the ()s and the O, and hence dark.

T-1319 = 3303 - 1319 = 1984 (year of release of the original Elite and The Dark Wheel.

SUM(10,7,5,3) =... not completely sure on this one, but there's 4 terms, there's 4 games, ED is the latest in the series and in it's third year, so I'm making a bit of a leap and taking the whole term to refer to the sum of all the games.

Xezoar is if the last term is literally just the sum of the digits. Page 25 of The Dark Wheel is the end of a chapter, with a relatively small amount of text and not much going on apart from them heading on to Xezoar.

The last term could also be a whole host of other things as well though:
-the pages corresponding to the individual digits
-the first word of said pages
-the first letter of said pages
-the letters or words of the book corresponding to those digits
-the letters of "The Dark Wheel" corresponding to the digits
-as the line above but ignoring the space in "The Dark Wheel"

And so and so forth, hence why I've taken a stab at one of the more likely seeming interpretations.

Edit- oh, and I went through loads of mathematical possibilities first, got loads of things that look like co-ordinates, but the eventual interpretations of the terms that I finally reached just seem to connect far too well together to just be coincidence.
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Edit - oh, and about 'T-' T = time. It could be seconds, minutes, hours, days, etc. Two things suggest that it's years. 1. It's the smallest unit for which the answer wouldn't change over the period the message will be relevant for (if I recall correctly anyway, need to double check for months). 2. The fact that it gives 1984 and the significance of that date with respect to Elite.
 
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Rich32uk

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So with the recent increase with hyperdictions from unknowns ships in the dark region do you think this is related to Salome? I mean these ships pull you out of witchspace and scan you as if they're looking for someone, wonder if they're looking for her ?
 

Rich32uk

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Ha ha yeah. Story solved. Salome has the key to unlock col 70 and the thargoids who are seriously *** for being locked out are going to give her an ultimatum. Give the key back or face a painful death.
 

L.S Algir

L.S Algir
Thatchinho said:
Don't really like quoting one of my own posts, but as your line of thinking seems to be heading that direction then hey ho, may as well.

See in the spoiler for how the Dark Wheel may be a specific part of the code.

Edit - oh, and about 'T-' T = time. It could be seconds, minutes, hours, days, etc. Two things suggest that it's years. 1. It's the smallest unit for which the answer wouldn't change over the period the message will be relevant for (if I recall correctly anyway, need to double check for months). 2. The fact that it gives 1984 and the significance of that date with respect to Elite.
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Sorry , I have to admit I am a bit late on the riddle and I didn't read everything that have been achieved so far. I came to this conclusion thanks to CMDR Shijima who made some handful statements .


I know this seems to be redundent with what you stated but I didn't want to take credit for that , just wanted to sort out a theory (which I admit , has already been given , perhaps multiple times .

I don't think however that sum(10,7,5,3) is 52 , as a runsum has to contain numbers without gap ( as 7,6,5,4,3 and not 7,5,3 where 2 numbers are missing)

I thought it was another way to write sum(10) + sum(7) + sum (5) + sum(3) but it makes no sense as a runsum need a starting point , except if it's a triangulate number which includes its own starting point , aka 1 , and is written T(10) for exemple ( T(10) = 10+9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1=55) .

Assuming that it could be that , (assuming) and that instead of using T he used sum because every triangular number is a specific runsum , we could reach 55+28+15+6 = 104 --> 1+0+4=5 . I thought it was another way to say Elite Dangerous (Elite 5 )but it requires Oolite to be taken into account in the number of games , which is not the case , so dead end......:eek:

well....

However it's just reasuring for me to see you've already made all the job I , by coïncidence, was diving into. Now I know that this direction has already been investigated , I can move on :)
 
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Thatchinho

Thatchinho
L.S Algir said:
Sorry , I have to admit I am a bit late on the riddle and I didn't read everything that have been achieved so far. I came to this conclusion thanks to CMDR Shijima who made some handful statements .


I know this seems to be redundent with what you stated but I didn't want to take credit for that , just wanted to sort out a theory (which I admit , has already been given , perhaps multiple times .

I don't think however that sum(10,7,5,3) is 52 , as a runsum has to contain numbers without gap ( as 7,6,5,4,3 and not 7,5,3 where 2 numbers are missing)

I thought it was another way to write sum(10) + sum(7) + sum (5) + sum(3) but it makes no sense as a runsum need a starting point , except if it's a triangulate number which includes its own starting point , aka 1 , and is written T(10) for exemple ( T(10) = 10+9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1=55) .

Assuming that it could be that , (assuming) and that instead of using T he used sum because every triangular number is a specific runsum , we could reach 55+28+15+6 = 104 --> 1+0+4=5 . I thought it was another way to say Elite Dangerous (Elite 5 )but it requires Oolite to be taken into account in the number of games , which is not the case , so dead end......:eek:

well....

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There's nothing to be sorry for. I hope it didn't seem like I was complaining or implying you were at fault! :) Things get lost in the depths of the thread all the time. Also, I might be wrong and the more independent eyes that are looking at something, the better the chance of us working out the solution between us!

Got to go and meet some people now, and will read the rest of your reply later, but just wanted to make sure there wasn't any misunderstanding! :)
 

Muetdhiver

Muetdhiver
Here is what I got :

Phaeton's Reach is most likely Eridanus, the river of souls. Follow the river of souls tells me that Salomé will be in one of the constellation star. Which one ?

Well the last clue IMO point to the dark wheel book. Page 10 line 7 word 5 letter 3 is a 'd'. Or delta in Greek.

IMO the clues point toward 6delta Eridanus also known as rana.

My whole interpretation can very well be boloks but I like it XD
 
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L.S Algir

L.S Algir
Thatchinho said:
There's nothing to be sorry for. I hope it didn't seem like I was complaining or implying you were at fault! :) Things get lost in the depths of the thread all the time. Also, I might be wrong and the more independent eyes that are looking at something, the better the chance of us working out the solution between us!

Got to go and meet some people now, and will read the rest of your reply later, but just wanted to make sure there wasn't any misunderstanding! :)
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Don't worry everything's fine :) Just , you know , with simple text messages it's not always obvious to interpret one's feelings ;) .

Still working on the thing.

And then comes the Eradinus theory that is really Worth the try as the Greek mythology is complete and whole about it ( when the sol system theory requieres to gather 2 different sources : comet phaeton and Plato republic.)

However , that keep us a bit away from the buble doesn't it ?

Oh by the way : "In some maps of the Star Trek universe, the planet Vulcan is shown to be located at 40 Eridani A" (source : wikipedia) ... hey why not ? ;)
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Treating the Fi(0) segment of the message as a map:

F - F type star
i - In a serif font like Courier this kinda looks like an outpost. Or it could be 'installation'
(0) - planet with a ring


I'd be tempted to look at either end of Eridanus for an F type star.
 

ishmair

ishmair
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Muetdhiver

Muetdhiver
L.S Algir said:
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However , that keep us a bit away from the buble doesn't it ?
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Why ? A lot of the Eridanus constellation stars are well within the bubble. Epsilon Eridani is like 10 lyr from sol,
Achenar is well... in the bubble and so is delta Eridani.

Here are my 0.02$ about this enigma :

Drew said lateral thinking and no math or crypto.

Greek myth pointing to a constellation (which is just a way to say : hey ! the place you seek is a among those 25-30 stars !)
in a straight forward manner by linking neatly two clues is enough for me. Occam principle.

Otherwise one goes full tinfoil poisoning and get nuts XD

Since we have a set of stars, IMO the last clue is a pointer to the one we have to go to.

No need to overcomplicate stuff.
 
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bitstorm

bitstorm
Anyone remember what the decryption key was for the comms beacons?

Want to attempt a 2.3 re-decrypt verify before I leave Hawkin's Gap for the trip home.
 

L.S Algir

L.S Algir
You're right . By the way the star ending the constellation seems to be Beta Eriadini aka Cursa aka Dhalim. I'll look for this star in the map ( chose the last one cause of the Phaeton's reach)

Yet you say no math , so we can assume that the "equation" at the end and thus sum(10,7,5,3) , is just a false trail to be ignored. Admit that 's not so easy not to overcomplicate stuff...
 
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