THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

Meme the little Thargoid

Meme the little Thargoid
Bellerophon could lead to 51 Pegasi. The exoplanet in this system is called Bellerophon.

But the riddle itself is more of a sort of word "gambling", in my oppinion.
So you have to get the system behind it and you got a starsystem out of all the names. As mentioned before.


Like i said to BluWolve:

A final word, a course to follow, a poor miser's sum = Sum it up > All the names (Yah, sounds very unintelligent ~_~)
Fibonacci’s Zephyrum also (0)> Fibonacci numbers also starts with 0 (HIS 0)> Use this system to get the right letters? X_x

Or something like that.
 
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Protoenchen

Protoenchen
What the heck o_O
There are only 5 missings but you have nearly everything incorrect... Sorry bro :/

The bellephon is in the 51 pegasi system? Would fit perfectly! (Bellephon killed chimera while flying at the pegasus)
 

deathmagnet

deathmagnet
Protoenchen said:
What the heck o_O
There are only 5 missings but you have nearly everything incorrect... Sorry bro :/

The bellephon is in the 51 pegasi system? Would fit perfectly! (Bellephon killed chimera while flying at the pegasus)
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Never said I had the answers or the answers I had were correct. Or that I even had them all.
 
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KineticImpulser

KineticImpulser
Maybe it's The David Braben-Ian Bell Fibonacci Sequence: Initial Term (1984-1319) = 665

665
665
1330
1995
3325
5320
8645
13965
22610
36575

The sum of the tenth, seventh, fifth and third terms is 49875. HIP 49875 System Map below:

HIP 49875.JPG

Nothing of consequence. 8 landable planets/moons, no beacons or other POIs.

Using Initial Term (3303-1319) = 1984:

1984
1984
3968
5952
9920
15872
25792
41664
67456
109120

The sum of the tenth, seventh, fifth and third terms is 148800. No HIP number shows up for that.
 
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Kain Kazuhira

K
I know I'm kinda late to the party and this has probably been brought up. Anybody make the connection that "The River to the Underworld" could maybe reference the Eridanus constellation? The constellation is even in the shape of a river. Achenar is in this constellation... or thats what Wikipedia told me.

"Gaia’s daughter all unfurled" could mean Humanity spreading across the galaxy. Gaia being Earth and Daughter being Humanity. Unfurled definition is "make or become spread out from a rolled or folded state".

"Fourth minor bear in vain" could possibly be reference to Ursa Minor (Little Dipper) which as 4 stars in its bowel. I couldn't figure out w



Out of my 2 hours of Tin-foil hat wearing -esque "research" this is one of the only things that make sense after reading through my late night chicken scratch handwriting. Just throwing my 2 cents in.... possibly horribly wrong 2 cents.
 

deathmagnet

deathmagnet
In ancient Greek mythology, Acheron was known as the "river of woe", and was one of the five rivers of the Greek underworld. In the Homeric poems the Acheron was described as a river of Hades, into which Cocytus and Phlegethon both flowed.[2][3]
The Roman poet Virgil called it the principal river of Tartarus, from which the Styx and Cocytus both sprang.[4] The newly dead would be ferried across the Acheron by Charon in order to enter the Underworld.[5]


William Blake's depiction of "The Vestibule of Hell and the Souls Mustering to Cross the Acheron" in his Illustrations to Dante's "Divine Comedy" object 5 c. 1824-27. The original for the work is held by the National Gallery of Victoria.[6]
The Suda describes the river as "a place of healing, not a place of punishment, cleansing and purging the sins of humans."[7]
According to later traditions, Acheron had been a son of Helios and either Gaia or Demeter, who had been turned into the Underworld river bearing his name after he refreshed the Titans with drink during their contest with Zeus. By this myth, Acheron is also the father of Ascalaphus by either Orphne[8] or Gorgyra.[9]
The river called Acheron with the nearby ruins of the Necromanteion is found near Parga on the mainland opposite Corfu. Another branch of Acheron was believed to surface at the Acherusian cape (now Karadeniz Ereğli in Turkey) and was seen by the Argonauts according to Apollonius of Rhodes. Greeks who settled in Italy identified the Acherusian lake into which Acheron flowed with Lake Avernus. Plato in his Phaedo identified Acheron as the second greatest river in the world, excelled only by Oceanus.


Following Greek mythology, Charon ferries souls across the Acheron to Hell. Those who were neutral in life sit on the banks
He claimed that Acheron flowed in the opposite direction from Oceanus beneath the earth under desert places. The word is also occasionally used as a synecdoche for Hades itself. Virgil mentions Acheron with the other infernal rivers in his description of the underworld in Book VI of the Aeneid. In Book VII, line 312[10] he gives to Juno the famous saying, flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo: 'If I cannot bend the will of Heaven, I shall move Hell.' The same words were used by Sigmund Freud as the dedicatory motto for his seminal book The Interpretation of Dreams, figuring Acheron as psychological underworld beneath the conscious mind.
The Acheron was sometimes referred to as a lake or swamp in Greek literature, as in Aristophanes' The Frogs and Euripides' Alcestis.
In Dante's Inferno, the Acheron river forms the border of Hell. Following Greek mythology, Charon ferries souls across this river to Hell. Those who were neutral in life sit on the banks.
 

Protoenchen

Protoenchen
Lets see what we have (in the [] is the starsystem)
1 Styx [Styx]
2 Rhea [Rhea]
3
4 Euiridice [Eulexia]
5 Rhamnousia
6 Bellerophon [51 Pegasi]
7 Epione
8 Eurycleia [Prism]
9
10 Cronos [Elysia]
11 Deadalion [Prism]
12 Chione [Prism]
13 Iapetus [Sol]
14 Anticlea [Prism]
15 Aeolus [Aeolus]
16 Erebus [Erebus]
17 Jupiter [Sol]
18 Xanthus
19
20 Cassiopeia
21
22
These are the confirmed ones!

My bets:
3 Yildun [Yildun]
9 (according to the german version) Amphithea [Prism]
19 Furiea
21+22 Zero - Center of the contellation*

*) the figura which should be viewable after we found all systems should be a spiral, where the center is our wanted system
 
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Kain Kazuhira

K
Kain Kazuhira said:
"Fourth minor bear in vain" could possibly be reference to Ursa Minor (Little Dipper) which as 4 stars in its bowel. I couldn't figure out w
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Aw Jeez... I knew i was to tired to post. let me fix this for you guys.



Kain Kazuhira said:
"Fourth minor bear in vain" could possibly be reference to Ursa Minor (Little Dipper) which as 4 stars in its bowel. I couldn't figure out what the heck the "In vain" part meant so I gave up there.
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deathmagnet

deathmagnet
10:56 PM] Exil: Fibonacci’s Zephyrum is related to machine language
[10:56 PM] Exil: there, the difference between 0 and zero is obvious
[10:56 PM] Exil: in machine language, 0 is 0 but zero is not 0
NEW MESSAGES
[10:57 PM] Exil: zero goes down into binary, each letter is a mix of 1's and 0's and together they form "zero"
 

BluWolve

BluWolve
Martin Afonso said:
As suggested before, Moirai fits well with the 21th verse of the poem:



But the order is wrong: a final word (Átropos), a course to follow (Lachesis), a poor misers sum (Klotho or Clotho). ALC, ALK for the final characters of the location?.
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Could be, or otherwise it could be simply Moirai, which is a system in game I believe.
 

Protoenchen

Protoenchen
21 and 22 are ONE "row" because there are informations which are dorectly connected...
Also on german there is a hint in line 21 which is in the english line 22...

Both lines are about Fibounaccis Zephyrum...
 

deathmagnet

deathmagnet
has anyone suggested Alastor for the answer to question 19 "women of vengeance"?

Alastor was an epithet of the Greek god Zeus, according to Hesychius of Alexandria and the Etymologicum Magnum, which described him as the avenger of evil deeds, specifically, familial bloodshed. As the personification of a curse, it was also an epithet of the Erinyes.[2] The name is also used, especially by the tragic writers, to designate any deity or demon who avenges wrongs committed by men.[3][4][5][6][7] In Euripides' play Elecktra, Orestes questions an oracle who calls upon him to kill his mother, and wonders if the oracle was not from Apollo, but some malicious alastor.[8] There was an altar to Zeus Alastor just outside the city walls of Thasos.[9]
By the time of the 4th century BC, alastor in Greek had degraded to a generic type of insult, with the approximate meaning of "scoundrel".[2]
Alastor, a son of Neleus and Chloris. When Heracles took Pylos, Alastor and his brothers, except Nestor, were killed by him.[10][11] According to Parthenius of Nicaea, he was to be married to Harpalyce, who, however, was taken from him by her father Clymenus.[12]
Alastor, a Lycian, who was a companion of Sarpedon, and was slain by Odysseus.[13][14]
Alastorides is a patronymic form given by Homer to Tros, who was probably a son of the Lycian Alastor mentioned above.[15]
Another, unrelated Alastor is mentioned in the Iliad of Homer.[16]
 

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Well since the German version of the Galnet article seemed to have helped out ... anyone speak French? I'm at work and my wife is asleep so I can't get her to translate:

https://community.elitedangerous.com/fr/galnet/16-APR-3303

Fleuve de l'autre monde

Malicieuse fille de Gaïa

Quatrième petite ourse en vain

Par le venin de la vipère fut foudroyée

Aussi connue comme Némésis

Fléau de la chimère

Elle soulage les maux

Nourrice du voyageur Ulysse

Mère de la mère

Roi des Titans

Il se transforma en épervier

L'une des filles de Dédalion

Passa à la postérité comme le perceur

Mère d'Ulysse

Patronyme latin du régisseur des vents

Dieu des ténèbres, ô fuite primordiale

L'homonyme de Zeus repose sous le regard de Sol

Cheval préféré d'Achille

Maîtresses infernales de la vengeance

L'arrogante souveraine ne voyage plus

Un dernier mot, le fil d'Ariane, l'aumône d'un triste avare

Pour finir de résoudre l'énigme, cherchez le zephyrum de Fibonacci.
 
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Kal Adar

K
Ways to eliminate possibilities

Sorry to butt in. I've been following everything avidly. You've all done amazing work thus far. Mr. Wager obviously wants us to be able to solve this (why make an unsolvable puzzle?), but obviously our way of thinking about things is not entirely synced with his.

Is there any indication that the locations we need to hunt for are terrestrial? (Possible, but from the standpoint of player participation, that would require Horizons. Horizons may not be needed for the Rift mystery, but what about this? Are the known worlds from the poem all landable, or orbited by landable bodies?)

What are the similarities in the systems we know about (or think we know about)? For instance, I've found industrial outposts and labs. Also found out industrial outposts have their own tiny mail slots (which cannot be entered... fighter bay?). The lab in Styx had a data point that yielded intel and nothing else, it seems (and got me a warrant...). Going to try others and see what happens (likely outcome: get every bounty hunter in the bubble after me with nothing to show for it).

I apologize for rambling. Happens when a person tries to do mental gymnastics while half asleep and full of coffee. When I start spouting things like "Styx and stones", please cut me off.
 

deathmagnet

deathmagnet
Jaiotu said:
Well since the German version of the Galnet article seemed to have helped out ... anyone speak French? I'm at work and my wife is asleep so I can't get her to translate:

https://community.elitedangerous.com/fr/galnet/16-APR-3303

Fleuve de l'autre monde

Malicieuse fille de Gaïa

Quatrième petite ourse en vain

Par le venin de la vipère fut foudroyée

Aussi connue comme Némésis

Fléau de la chimère

Elle soulage les maux

Nourrice du voyageur Ulysse

Mère de la mère

Roi des Titans

Il se transforma en épervier

L'une des filles de Dédalion

Passa à la postérité comme le perceur

Mère d'Ulysse

Patronyme latin du régisseur des vents

Dieu des ténèbres, ô fuite primordiale

L'homonyme de Zeus repose sous le regard de Sol

Cheval préféré d'Achille

Maîtresses infernales de la vengeance

L'arrogante souveraine ne voyage plus

Un dernier mot, le fil d'Ariane, l'aumône d'un triste avare

Pour finir de résoudre l'énigme, cherchez le zephyrum de Fibonacci.
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It definitely changes the translation of some (courtesy of google translate)

River across the world

Mischievous daughter of Gaia

Fourth small bear in vain

By the venom of the Viper was struck by lightning

Also known as Nemesis

Scourge of the chimera

Relieves headaches

Nanny of the traveller Ulysses

Mother of the mother

King of the Titans

It turned into a sparrowhawk

One of the daughters of Dedalion

Passed to posterity as the piercer

Mother of Ulysses

Latin name of the Manager of the winds

God of darkness, o primordial leak

The namesake of Zeus is based under the gaze of ground

Favorite Achilles horse

Infernal vengeance mistresses

The sovereign arrogant travel more

A final word, the breadcrumb, alms of a sad miser

Finally to solve the Riddle, look for the Fibonacci zephyrum.
 

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
In line 21 where the English says "a course to follow" the French reads "le fil d'Ariane" which is the ball of thread that Ariadne gave Theseus to help guide him out of the maze when he confronted the Minotaur.

Ariadne's Thread is also a kind of logic puzzle:

"It is the particular method used that is able to follow completely through to trace steps or take point by point a series of found truths in a contingent, ordered search that reaches an end position." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariadne's_thread_(logic)
 
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