Well, a certain someone said you might want to take some weapons out exploring with you.
I'm off I have ...some things... to do.
THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)
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Well, a certain someone said you might want to take some weapons out exploring with you.
I'm off I have ...some things... to do.
Wow! That was fast! Well done everyone 
I think using Rebecca (Weston) as the key is a bit cheeky given that this name hasn't actually appeared in ED, but as said earlier in the thread they found the key before linking it to the Oolite stuff.
I'm curious to see how names are credited in the book when it's finished without breaking the flow - a lot of people contributed to solving this, not only CoR, the Rifters, Loren's Legion and probably Canonn too, but also plenty of lone-wolfs . (and there were probably even more like me who were figuring out bits here and there then logging on to post only to find that someone else had already posted it - but I'm not bitter about that credit only goes to the first person to publish, that's how it works).
So is that it? Is that megaship the end of the Formidine Rift mystery (as in, what's to find in the Rift), or is there more to it?
I think using Rebecca (Weston) as the key is a bit cheeky given that this name hasn't actually appeared in ED, but as said earlier in the thread they found the key before linking it to the Oolite stuff.I'm curious to see how names are credited in the book when it's finished without breaking the flow - a lot of people contributed to solving this, not only CoR, the Rifters, Loren's Legion and probably Canonn too, but also plenty of lone-wolfs . (and there were probably even more like me who were figuring out bits here and there then logging on to post only to find that someone else had already posted it - but I'm not bitter about that
credit only goes to the first person to publish, that's how it works).So is that it? Is that megaship the end of the Formidine Rift mystery (as in, what's to find in the Rift), or is there more to it?
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A little reflection from me. Kudos to all involved regardless of faction or affiliation. You should be proud of all your work... And the last chapter remains to be written.
https://www.drewwagar.com/announcements/deep-in-the-formidine-rift/
Cheers,
Drew.
https://www.drewwagar.com/announcements/deep-in-the-formidine-rift/
Cheers,
Drew.
The prize was to be named in that book. They solved the overarching code. They deserve the credit.
N'e way. We've still got the Phaethon clue 29 to solve?
So.....
Db-IB fi(0) T-1319 SUM(10,7,5,3)
If 1319 is Fi (0)
10 = 95,110
7= 36,326
5= 8590
3= 3303
=143, 329
As a coordinate 143: (30): 329
Throws up PRAEA EUQ AP-R B4-3
servers are offline right now. Plus...... housework and sick kid. Anybody got some free time?
N'e way. We've still got the Phaethon clue 29 to solve?
So.....
Db-IB fi(0) T-1319 SUM(10,7,5,3)
If 1319 is Fi (0)
10 = 95,110
7= 36,326
5= 8590
3= 3303
=143, 329
As a coordinate 143: (30): 329
Throws up PRAEA EUQ AP-R B4-3
servers are offline right now. Plus...... housework and sick kid. Anybody got some free time?
Well, glad that the "thing" has been found. Also glad that it was with a megaship rather than a conda.
Yeah, in fact, I've just been looking at how close I'd gotten to it when trying to follow the RR line:
According to my logs, this was just over a year ago:
Though at this point, I was trying to concentrate on much further out (I think most of us were).
Yeah, in fact, I've just been looking at how close I'd gotten to it when trying to follow the RR line:
According to my logs, this was just over a year ago:
Though at this point, I was trying to concentrate on much further out (I think most of us were).
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Yes, but I just want to point out that the DB-IB fi(0) 1984 part strongly points at the origin of the original Elite somehow. They used a Fibonacci/Tribonacci algorithm to build the entire galaxy from there, AFAIK fib(0) points at the root of any Fibonacci sequence, regardless of the exact 'seed' value. In the old Elite, the origin was Lave. I'm not sure of the SUM part too, ofc, but I guess we're looking for a system name here. I don't think we will get that from the formula itself, there is no DB-IB system, for example, and IB is not even valid hex (no calculation here). Furthermore, all we will get from any calculation here will be a just another number. How can we identify a system by that?
https://books.google.de/books?id=Na...&pg=PA113#v=onepage&q=elite tribonacci&f=true
Just a noob thought, but Elite system names were built from digrams, based on up to 4 values. Here, we got 4 parameters, too. I don't know what we can make up of that, simply inserting the params as index values into the digram table doesn't work (10 = AR, 7 = CE, 5 = GE, 3 = SO), but I'm haunted by the thought the solution could be somewhere in this direction. Ofc I can be completely wrong.
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I have to ask though, Drew. Apparently there was sufficient clues given WAY before all this recent activity, in game? If so, and now we know the location of this megaship, would it be too much to ask which clues were available? Because if they were available in-game last year and earlier, then it must have been too difficult to find them.
I would also like to know this.
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Kudos to everyone involved to unlock the mystery. I guess Drew and Fdev’s latest efforts were to make us find it before the 29th.
So was this mission about finding remote habitable planets as safe havens before all hell breaks loose in the bubble? Perhaps all powers know that Thargoids are bound to return?
And why are the ships light’s are on, and surrounded by a humming noise, wasn’t the ship’s power plant taken out?
So was this mission about finding remote habitable planets as safe havens before all hell breaks loose in the bubble? Perhaps all powers know that Thargoids are bound to return?
And why are the ships light’s are on, and surrounded by a humming noise, wasn’t the ship’s power plant taken out?
Very well done to everyone who worked on getting this solved and to those who offered support and encouragement!
This had to happen the same day I got back after visiting the Rift looking for traces of the Dynasty Expeditions... bad timing on my part - and with hyperspace transitions being what they are for me the last couple of days, no chances I'll be out there this week. Once they've been fixed I'll stop by in my Distant Stars-rigged Asp, the Orpheus - I really want to see this!
This had to happen the same day I got back after visiting the Rift looking for traces of the Dynasty Expeditions... bad timing on my part - and with hyperspace transitions being what they are for me the last couple of days, no chances I'll be out there this week. Once they've been fixed I'll stop by in my Distant Stars-rigged Asp, the Orpheus - I really want to see this!
DB-IB (as has been mentioned a few times on the thread) are the initials of David Braben and Ian Bell, the writers of the original Elite in 1984 (which is also the T-1319). Fi(0) and SUM(10,7,5,3) are currently unknown in how they interact with this information, if at all.
I'm there right now, 42 odd bodies, all scanned, nothing odd on first look. Going to have a look further..
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No, 'zephyrum' is the right Latinized form of the medieval North-Italian word 'zefiro', witch comes from the Arab 'safira' (='empty', it is the translation of the original Indian 'sunya', used for 'zero' -- what is the Venetian contracted form of 'zefiro', used word-wide today...)
The nominative and accusative of second declension singular neuter nouns have the same -um ending in Latin. Eg. gaudium, auspicium, servitium, auxilium. Also, neuter abstract nouns, names of groups and offices, and neuter foreign words usually have the same nominative and accusative. The word 'zephyrum' was made by Fibonacci himself, who wasn't under-educated in Latin. -- He may have played with the Greek word Zephyros as well, when he brought westward the concept of zero from the Middle-East.
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No, 'zephyrum' is the right Latinized form of the medieval North-Italian word 'zefiro', witch comes from the Arab 'safira' (='empty', it is the translation of the original Indian 'sunya', used for 'zero' -- what is the Venetian contracted form of 'zefiro', used word-wide today...)
The nominative and accusative of second declension singular neuter nouns have the same -um ending in Latin. Eg. gaudium, auspicium, servitium, auxilium. Also, neuter abstract nouns, names of groups and offices, and neuter foreign words usually have the same nominative and accusative. The word 'zephyrum' was made by Fibonacci himself, who wasn't under-educated in Latin. -- He may have played with the Greek word Zephyros as well, when he brought westward the concept of zero from the Middle-East.
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damn! so close!
You should be able to locate then retrospectively. They were all there. I may get around to writing it all up at some point, but it won't be 'soon' at present.
Cheers,
Drew.
Wow! Well done everyone involved in the last 3 years of mystery and searching!
So... This is the end of the Formidine Rift portion of the mystery, but are there other derelicts out in the Conflux and Gap to find?
I see why Drew said some people were close to the solution. This is very similar in story to some of the theories I've seen being muted on here.
- Humanity is the real enemy
- The Dynasty expedition was to prepare an escape from the Thargoids
- The "thing" out in the Rift is a derelict ship
All things multiple people have come up with! Awesome work everyone.
So... This is the end of the Formidine Rift portion of the mystery, but are there other derelicts out in the Conflux and Gap to find?
I see why Drew said some people were close to the solution. This is very similar in story to some of the theories I've seen being muted on here.
- Humanity is the real enemy
- The Dynasty expedition was to prepare an escape from the Thargoids
- The "thing" out in the Rift is a derelict ship
All things multiple people have come up with! Awesome work everyone.
Let me just tell you one thing: I've been following this thread since nearly 2 years. Since we restarted the Children of Raxxla in April 3302 we have shared every single piece of intel we found out in this thread. We have kept nothing to ourselves, I personally wrote several posts about things we did and things we found. Regarding the Rift-Mystery we were as open as we could be. So either you missed that or it is just envy that someone else figured it out? Or does it bug you that we verified the position before posting about it here?
But we better stop the debate here. It will lead to nothing and as you see Drew has recognized it as a community-effort. Which is entirely true and o.k. for the Children of Raxxla. No point to go on discussing it.