THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

3000 lys toward the Gap and I see a gorgeous Earth-like world. I go to set it as my destination and it's already discovered!?!?!? Waaahhhh!!!
 
Drew, I wonder if you'll humour me with a reply here, the are lots of people addressing you directly here, and I'm nothing special, but I want to say firstly well done for the event - it's indeed a monumental task, and thank you for going to so much effort to bring such a small aspect of one of your books to such a huge crescendo, all because a few of us crackpots were mad enough to follow it. Monumental effort and I think you and your team deserve a great many accolades for it.

However, the question I wonder if you could give an indication to is, what was this huge "truth" that was to come out? People are right that we did already know a lot of what was in the listening post data, with the exception of the fact that Rebecca was with the organisers of the Dynasty expedition. In the logs she indicts an organisation... Will we get a name to put to that organisation? Was the name part of what Salomé's message was about?

I don't know, it doesn't seem like it's an ending per se. I'm just confused really, I thought maybe the information would reveal all exactly was behind it all (to then kick-start a new, separate mystery into locating them and bringing them to justice).

Unless something has happened that I've missed? Will Raan, Tsu and Yuri be giving us more information and puzzles to find out the extra bits Salomé wanted to say?

I don't mind if we do get extra puzzles, but I'd just like to know the vague direction this is going or if it's actually the end?

I felt the same way at first. Now that it's settled more it feels obvious that if everything were concluded it would detract from the book. It seems like a teaser for lore and game content to come. The questions from Reclamation seem answered. I think we just have to wait for Premonition to get the next set of questions. I'd rather the book not be spoiled before it came out, personally, so if that's the case then I understand why it feels left off in a way.

But now we know for sure, before that we had very good theories that explained what was found. Now we have proof - unless R. lied in the logs. The theories where right.
It might not feel new, but it changed what we have. In my opinion that's important.

Something ended, and something started.

And now a real burden lies upon our shoulders.

What do we do with the information we have?
For the first time it's not just about finding information, it's about morale, decisions and consequences on a large scale.
What is the right thing to do?

Yes, this is something I would like to talk about. What can we do next, what does make sense to do next... Get out the tinfoil hats if need be! ;)

It may be nothing but why did the even start around 46 Eridani? What were they doing out there? I'm tempted to scan every system near it.

There was some new behavior added with thargoids seen running from destroyed ships in distress signal sources. Another thing I want to try is shooting thargoid ships with engineered weapons and different special effects. Since they now interact with players who just dropped from supercruise it should be possible to drop a full wing in! Maybe even some of them won't get emp'd. If a war is coming we need to find out if anything we currently have access to will help in the fight.

Or a premonition perhaps. I'm going to go out on a limb and take a wild and crazy guess that there will be new clues in Drew's book, and no new content until 2.4 (unless there is something already there that we have missed, which is quite possible).

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Wasn't Salomé hiding out in Maia after the heist? That's probably why it started there...

Maia is a long way from 46 and in the opposite direction from the bubble. Maybe the starting point wasn't important but if this is a chase across the stars and it's going to be written into the book then Drew has to have a reason for why there, or it has to start somewhere else entirely in his telling. It wouldn't make sense to have your characters go so much further from their destination for no reason!

EDIT: That of course doesn't mean they put whatever is there in the book into the game...
 
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3275 also just happens to be the year that Moira Dolan and Gustaav Mastersson upset Carl Linnaeus' (suspiciously Hans Walden like biochemist) plot to use modified humans to become elite pilots to train Oresrians (Thargoids we've met) so they can defeat the Klaxians (Thargoids we haven't) and thus save humanity from the coming invasion. The Oreserians were being pushed toward human space by the Klaxians. Last seen escaping towards the Pleiades. He was enamored with the ability of the Oserians to build on shared knowledge rather than the individualized knowledge inherent in humans.
From "Out of The Darkness" by T.James

A mere 5 years after Hans Walden-2 had his plans upset to cull the weak from human population via a virus to better position them to meet the coming threat (Hans 1 never located) who was fairly adept at cloning technology. He'd set about cloning himself to build a shared knowledge through his clones rather than an individualized knowledge. From "Lave Revolution" by Allen Stroud

And would probably have viewed the re-introduction of Genship populations into the mix as a terrible set back for humans. Conveniently they all appear to have relatively recently died from a virus. My own bit of tinfoil.

A bit before Robert Gunn great-grandson of Alex Ryder set about disrupting the plans to use Soontil weapons to kill the Emperor and trigger a war between the federation and Empire leaving the strongest standing to face the 2nd Thargoid invasion due to pressures within. Think Visigoths being pushed south toward Rome. From "And Here the Wheel" by John Harper

Minor correction to the last one: It was Robert Garry, not Robert Gunn. Gunn was the Alliance Operative who ended up teaming up with Garry.
 
Wasn't Salomé hiding out in Maia after the heist? That's probably why it started there...

I thought the heist in Maia was where she reappeared?
Then a signal was intercepted in Col 70 and we all assumed it was Salome and her gang... where is Luko by the way?

I think Maia/Merope will be where FD develop their storyline, as for Drew...?

Personally I am going to investigate around that odd Guardian base all on its lonesome out toward Jaques, it just looks odd out there.

And always look in the opposite direction to where the "magician" is pointing, ie Merope/Maia...(OK pass the tinfoil)
 
According to FFE lore, all Duvals were sort of clones, as female assisted reproduction was banned in the royal family.

Probably retconed though.

Still don't think there is a drop of Duval blood in Arissa. :)

Not quite, IIRC. The Duvals weren't against female assisted reproduction ... they simply went to great lengths to ensure that no female children were born to the Duval line. I think there is more detailed information in one of the the short stories in Tales From the Frontier ... but my copy is at home so I can't look up the reference right now.
 
I thought the heist in Maia was where she reappeared?
Then a signal was intercepted in Col 70 and we all assumed it was Salome and her gang... where is Luko by the way?

I think Maia/Merope will be where FD develop their storyline, as for Drew...?

Personally I am going to investigate around that odd Guardian base all on its lonesome out toward Jaques, it just looks odd out there.

And always look in the opposite direction to where the "magician" is pointing, ie Merope/Maia...(OK pass the tinfoil)

Perhaps there is a path in, yet undiscovered? Someone said the permit lock is a bubble but the center isn't locked out. Then again, why would FDev do that if there was content ready for that area?
 
Not quite, IIRC. The Duvals weren't against female assisted reproduction ... they simply went to great lengths to ensure that no female children were born to the Duval line. I think there is more detailed information in one of the the short stories in Tales From the Frontier ... but my copy is at home so I can't look up the reference right now.

So how did Aisling squeeze through?
 
As I approach the Gap it occurs to me that I have no idea where to start looking for the Mega Ship. I guess maybe a few hundred lys past where the Feddies sent us out the for the Exploration Data CG (which is where my Gap bookmark comes from). Unless anyone else has any suggestions?

I forget the exact circumstances but there was a change in Imperial policy. I guess it was a sort of sexual revolution of sorts.

EDIT: Apparently Hengist Duval rescinded the previous decree and opened the door to the possibility of a female heir:

https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/561397259657ba7007435572

Neat! Thanks.
 
Feedback from me:

Appreciate your efforts, but this should have been an organised Community Goal where 1000's of CMDRs could have participated over a period of time to ascertain a result - instead of trying to cram everyone in to tiny instances for pvp over a hour or so - which ultimately resulted in only a select few being able to participate. Saying that her fate was sealed by what the community did or did-not do is a bit of an overstatement.

Sorry to see the majority of people frustrated and upset, this probably hurt the community as a whole - and judging by all the negative reactions, interest in the Salome storyline in general.

Interesting, but, the issue I see is, CG's are kinda dull, if truth be told. A good way to make exploit-free cash, yes, but dull. Funnily enough, in open, I find that SDC (and their ilk) are the one's that make them semi interesting - if you play in open.

I think that a whole new idea needs to be though of, and as I've said before, I'm stumped as to what it would be. There are tech limitations prevent huge single instance events, and that is exactly what was needed for this particular situation.

The reality is, whilst I did find this whole shebang quite entertaining, it was really a very small percentage of players that even caught a whiff of Salomé. Probably a good thing I was unable to attend in terms of my own NaCl reserves, though, as I said, for such future events, something new needs to be thought of that engages everyone that wants to partake. And I don't mean by watching a YT stream whilst you sit in your ship in the wrong instance.



As I approach the Gap it occurs to me that I have no idea where to start looking for the Mega Ship. I guess maybe a few hundred lys past where the Feddies sent us out the for the Exploration Data CG (which is where my Gap bookmark comes from). Unless anyone else has any suggestions?



Neat! Thanks.

You're likely to find the location on the first post of this thread. the CG location (EAFOTS I assume you mean) is a LONG way away, and actually slightly the wrong direction (you'll be a few thousand light years of if you follow that path far enough).

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How many people were in the group that stole the meta alloys?

I bet if all four characters got killed during the 29th live event, Luko would have appeared at the destination and activated the comms beacons!

I've just been posting on MassiveD's thread where he's bashing Drew and Frontier for this all being rigged from the start. So much disinformation flying round, such a shame.
 
As I approach the Gap it occurs to me that I have no idea where to start looking for the Mega Ship. I guess maybe a few hundred lys past where the Feddies sent us out the for the Exploration Data CG (which is where my Gap bookmark comes from). Unless anyone else has any suggestions?

Unlike the case of the Formidine Rift where Rebecca found the Mega Ship first and left hints (edge of the Galactic arm and the Reorte Riedquat line) we have nothing to go on. It took years of looking in the Rift before we rediscovered the location and even then it took Drew sticking us with a cattle prod via the latest round of GalNet hints. We are basing the possibility of Mega Ships in the Conflux and Hawking's Gap purely on the speculation that, since there was one in the Rift, there must be one in each of those locations as well.

It's great speculation but I have a gut feeling that the Rift mystery was expanded to include the Gap and the Conflux only recently. The Rift content was there, in a less impressive form, since Gamma but we have no guarantee that Frontier has implemented Mega Ships in these two other locations. Just like searching for Cassiopeia A you might be out looking for something that just isn't there.

If I were to apply a reasonable approach to locating additional Mega Ships here's how I'd start:

Determine the distance from the Formidine Rift abandoned settlement to the Zurara. Assume that the Mega Ship in the Gap would have traveled a similar distance. Now, draw a line from Sol to the Rift settlement. Imagine that line to be "000" on a compass heading. Measure the resulting angle pointing toward the Zurara.

Draw another line from Sol to the Hawking's Gap settlement, again taking this line to be "000" on the compass. Use the angle calculated for the Zurara to calculate the possible location of this other alleged Mega Ship. My best guess, without any useful clues, would be that the Mega Ship would be located along this line near the same distance from the Gap settlement that the Zurara is from the Rift settlement.

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I've just been posting on MassiveD's thread where he's bashing Drew and Frontier for this all being rigged from the start. So much disinformation flying round, such a shame.

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EDIT: Not you Zach. MassiveD.
 
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3275 also just happens to be the year that Moira Dolan and Gustaav Mastersson upset Carl Linnaeus' (suspiciously Hans Walden like biochemist) plot to use modified humans to become elite pilots to train Oresrians (Thargoids we've met) so they can defeat the Klaxians (Thargoids we haven't) and thus save humanity from the coming invasion. The Oreserians were being pushed toward human space by the Klaxians. Last seen escaping towards the Pleiades. He was enamored with the ability of the Oserians to build on shared knowledge rather than the individualized knowledge inherent in humans.
From "Out of The Darkness" by T.James

A mere 5 years after Hans Walden-2 had his plans upset to cull the weak from human population via a virus to better position them to meet the coming threat (Hans 1 never located) who was fairly adept at cloning technology. He'd set about cloning himself to build a shared knowledge through his clones rather than an individualized knowledge. From "Lave Revolution" by Allen Stroud

And would probably have viewed the re-introduction of Genship populations into the mix as a terrible set back for humans. Conveniently they all appear to have relatively recently died from a virus. My own bit of tinfoil.

A bit before Robert Garry great-grandson of Alex Ryder set about disrupting the plans to use Soontil weapons to kill the Emperor and trigger a war between the federation and Empire leaving the strongest standing to face the 2nd Thargoid invasion due to pressures within. Think Visigoths being pushed south toward Rome. From "And Here the Wheel" by John Harper

Thanks for the great summary! I recognize at least one of those references from either Galnet or a tourist beacon; good to finally know where it comes from. Despite the in-game ambiguity, it does seem like the coming threat was pretty much spelled out in the different novels?
 
Thanks for the great summary! I recognize at least one of those references from either Galnet or a tourist beacon; good to finally know where it comes from. Despite the in-game ambiguity, it does seem like the coming threat was pretty much spelled out in the different novels?

Yah, pretty much. We don't really now who, what or when in any detail. To some extent the Rift mystery has been a way to keep us entertained till the main attraction shows up (I have and still am enjoying it, sometimes the front band is better than the A List).

While I'm here +1 rep Jaiotu for your ship post just now.
 
Perhaps there is a path in, yet undiscovered? Someone said the permit lock is a bubble but the center isn't locked out. Then again, why would FDev do that if there was content ready for that area?

Maybe, but its a large section of Galaxy to try and navigate through.

I think half the problem with "The Event" was how much anticipation built up... The permits will unlock, the Aliens will arrive, the hidden Alien Base will be found.. etc.
And then once it was done it was very anti climactic! Beacons ! that's all, just some beacons?! Nothing from Raan and Co ? No Sirius Plot??

We let our imagination run riot, and reality wasn't up to it.
 
We let our imagination run riot, and reality wasn't up to it.

Reality rarely is. I was really, really hoping for something like what Harry did to happen ... but to watch it suddenly interrupted by an invasion of aliens. There has been much criticism about Elite's content being something that we experience vicariously. I've yet to personally experience a "hyperdiction". If it weren't for YouTube that would be something that I've never seen.

April 29th saw a sudden influx of players like something I haven't seen since the early days of the game's release. It would have been a perfect time for Frontier to roll out the aliens in a big way and to a large number of players at the same time.


EDIT: Gah! Somebody please stop me from derailing the thread again.
 
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