THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

I think it was both - Drew is a wordsmith after all.

True, I've been mentally running through some of the old clues (like 'core') pondering how they fit with what we know now, how we should have interpreted them at the time or even if we could have, and most importantly which if any were never fully understood.

Some of the latter may become obvious in retrospect but some of them may lead to relevant as yet uncovered information. I kind of doubt the latter possibility.

As Drew said this was in many ways "Salome's story", it was like a highly veiled third person narrative describing her actions. So my personal conclusion is the hints to the next step in the journey are either very recent or yet to be revealed. But if somebody comes up with a plausible actionable new interpretation of old clues I'll happily jump on board.
 
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Some random thoughts:

So ... apparently Rebecca participated in the Dynasty Expedition. In Altera she returned from the edge of the galactic arm, having already wiped her own memory, and having no recollection of having discovered anything while out there. Yet she also had information that she was delivering to the Tionisla Historical Society for safe keeping. Could this have been information regarding Exodus/Dynasty?

Apparently she took part in the 3270 expedition. As the sole survivor she wiped her mind but not before leaving herself some clues to retrace her steps. Whoever is behind Exodus, represented by the cloaked man who met her at Coulter City, further wiped her memories and provided her with a new life: that of a simple librarian.

Rebecca somehow managed to send herself a message letting her know that she was actually an Elite pilot and "waking" her from this false existence. She once again sets off to try and rediscover herself and the truth ... leading her to find the Zurara in 3273. Two years later she records the Teorge logs in 3275.

What she accomplished after those logs were recorded is anyone's guess. Did she delete the memories again? Or did someone forcibly erase them? I don't think we have any additional record of her until she meets Salome in 3300 at the hospital in Reclamation.

In any case ... the possibility "The Old Woman" being Elyssia Fields appears to be impossible ... but there might still be a connection.

In "And Here the Wheel" we learn that The Dark Wheel has always been led by a member of the Ryder family. Elyssia Fields was Alex Ryder's companion in the now non-canonical Dark Wheel novella. Still ... in the canonical novel And Here the Wheel we are told that Alex Ryder did exist in this version of history and had two sons: Oberon and Neptune Ryder. Both children had names linked to Greek mythology. Elyssia's brood mother (Elyssia was a clone) had an interest in Greek mythology ... and hence Elyssia's rather poetic name.

If Elyssia had been Alex's domestic partner and if we take the Children of Raxxla's origin story at face value then it is very likely that Elyssia and Rebecca knew each other through common connections to The Dark Wheel. Elyssia's influence on Rebecca would explain why Rebecca hid so much of the Exodus Conspiracy in a wrapper of Greek myth.

If there is anyone still alive who knows about the powers behind Exodus then, perhaps, that person is Neptune Ryder. We should keep a close watch on The Dark Wheel... if we assume that The Dark Wheel of Shinrarta Dhezra is the same Dark Wheel from the orginal Elite.
 
Question to ask:

Why was Salome near 46 Eridani? What was she looking for in that area?



If you build it content may come!

DBX 59ly max jump

I'm out here looking with 55ly max jump range and still not seeing anything deep in col 70 that I can get to.

I'm thinking Greek mythology again and that bubble is the labyrinth at Minos so multiple dead ends and false starts, a Minotaur running around inside which took out Lucs cobra and a secret in the middle.

If nobody else solves it I'll buy a conda when I've finished my BGS grind, name it the Ariadne and go have a pop.
 
True, I've been mentally running through some of the old clues (like 'core') pondering how they fit with what we know now, how we should have interpreted them at the time or even if we could have, and most importantly which if any were never fully understood.

Some of the latter may become obvious in retrospect but some of them may lead to relevant as yet uncovered information. I kind of doubt the latter possibility.

As Drew said this was in many ways "Salome's story", it was like a highly veiled third person narrative describing her actions. So my personal conclusion is the hints to the next step in the journey are either very recent or yet to be revealed. But if somebody comes up with a plausible actionable new interpretation of old clues I'll happily jump on board.

"The Story of the Rift is in many ways Salome's story" could also be a hint that the cloning theory is true and Salomé and the old women where kind of the same person.
 
Can you tell me, pls, what engineer, and engineering, you did to get your jump drive to that level? I'm in a ASP X and only managed to get 50ly min - full fuel tank, carrying an SRV and one beam laser (just in case). I'd love to get it up to around 60ly or beyond.

I think 60ly with an ASPX is difficult. Might be only possible with an very good RNG roll (50+ optimal mass and a couple of percent increase in fuel per jump) and stript down to the hull, i.e. no SRV, weapons or shields... The DBX is easier to mod though.
 
Some random thoughts:

So ... apparently Rebecca participated in the Dynasty Expedition. In Altera she returned from the edge of the galactic arm, having already wiped her own memory, and having no recollection of having discovered anything while out there. Yet she also had information that she was delivering to the Tionisla Historical Society for safe keeping. Could this have been information regarding Exodus/Dynasty?

Apparently she took part in the 3270 expedition. As the sole survivor she wiped her mind but not before leaving herself some clues to retrace her steps. Whoever is behind Exodus, represented by the cloaked man who met her at Coulter City, further wiped her memories and provided her with a new life: that of a simple librarian.

Rebecca somehow managed to send herself a message letting her know that she was actually an Elite pilot and "waking" her from this false existence. She once again sets off to try and rediscover herself and the truth ... leading her to find the Zurara in 3273. Two years later she records the Teorge logs in 3275.

What she accomplished after those logs were recorded is anyone's guess. Did she delete the memories again? Or did someone forcibly erase them? I don't think we have any additional record of her until she meets Salome in 3300 at the hospital in Reclamation.

In any case ... the possibility "The Old Woman" being Elyssia Fields appears to be impossible ... but there might still be a connection.

In "And Here the Wheel" we learn that The Dark Wheel has always been led by a member of the Ryder family. Elyssia Fields was Alex Ryder's companion in the now non-canonical Dark Wheel novella. Still ... in the canonical novel And Here the Wheel we are told that Alex Ryder did exist in this version of history and had two sons: Oberon and Neptune Ryder. Both children had names linked to Greek mythology. Elyssia's brood mother (Elyssia was a clone) had an interest in Greek mythology ... and hence Elyssia's rather poetic name.

If Elyssia had been Alex's domestic partner and if we take the Children of Raxxla's origin story at face value then it is very likely that Elyssia and Rebecca knew each other through common connections to The Dark Wheel. Elyssia's influence on Rebecca would explain why Rebecca hid so much of the Exodus Conspiracy in a wrapper of Greek myth.

If there is anyone still alive who knows about the powers behind Exodus then, perhaps, that person is Neptune Ryder. We should keep a close watch on The Dark Wheel... if we assume that The Dark Wheel of Shinrarta Dhezra is the same Dark Wheel from the orginal Elite.

All the dark haired slender women with a name that ends with an 'a' are clones of the same DNA. :D

If we can't find Neptun Ryder, we at least have Liz.
 
Thanks for that. I always assumed the ASP X was the best for long range - apparently not then.

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OK, so which ship can jump the furthest when fully engineered and equipped correctly?

Conda or DBX (since 2.3) can both do further. Nothing else beats those 3 on range.
 
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Thanks for that. I always assumed the ASP X was the best for long range - apparently not then.

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OK, so which ship can jump the furthest when fully engineered and equipped correctly?

I think the Anaconda is still the one with the best possible jump range but they reduced the weight of the DBX with the last update. I think if you want more flexibility wrt. modules use the Anaconda, if you want a ship which handles better in supercruise, use the DBX.

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Funny, I got mine fully stripped (so not really useful for exploring) to 60.26 LY...

Yes its possible if you have an above max FSD roll...
 
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Step 1: Decide something is out there
Step 2: Look for something
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit

Let's get going.

In all seriousness I think the one important fact we learned from Salome (and CoR and ourselves) is that the players can in fact influence the game and through more ways than just PP, BGS and CGs.

We may not be able to write our own script where DrewC is crowned Emperor High MuckityMuck of Galaxy 3 but we can write our own story through Galnet posts with hints and questions, possibly raise awareness around a parituclarly interesting clue or set of clues and then maybe trigger a CG to address it (my Jacques CG comment further up was only half in jest). See where that takes us and try something else if we don't like it.

I will caution folks, if the plan is a few posts in this thread, sitting back a week and then wait for the CG to pop up you're going to be disappointed. It's going to take weeks, months maybe years of effort because ultimately we have to get FDEV's attention and find the intersection of their interest and ours. It's the place where our fun and their reality meet.

Very well said and exactly what I'm hoping some combined, continued effort will bring into the game. I don't think anyone every realized how much they lean on the players and how much they want us to make the story. As a gamer, that's an impressive evolution in gaming given the scale of options.

Drew did keep throwing the word 'Core' around ;)

I'm pretty sure the Teorge listening posts are new - there are too many of them for them to be missed by accident and I can't believe that nobody from the Rifters or Canonn (or just somebody who pays vague attention to the forums) passed through Teorge for any significant amount of time.

I wasted all my 'directed searching' time on Greek mythological systems ;)

My home system isn't far from there. It would show up in my regular mission runs while I was getting engineer stuff and I never noticed anything special about it. (found that very funny during the event, that I payed to have my ship transported all the way across the bubble just to jump like made back to my home dock, get in my gunship cause things had gotten crazy, and still beat the main characters to Teorge).

Some random thoughts:

So ... apparently Rebecca participated in the Dynasty Expedition. In Altera she returned from the edge of the galactic arm, having already wiped her own memory, and having no recollection of having discovered anything while out there. Yet she also had information that she was delivering to the Tionisla Historical Society for safe keeping. Could this have been information regarding Exodus/Dynasty?

Apparently she took part in the 3270 expedition. As the sole survivor she wiped her mind but not before leaving herself some clues to retrace her steps. Whoever is behind Exodus, represented by the cloaked man who met her at Coulter City, further wiped her memories and provided her with a new life: that of a simple librarian.

Rebecca somehow managed to send herself a message letting her know that she was actually an Elite pilot and "waking" her from this false existence. She once again sets off to try and rediscover herself and the truth ... leading her to find the Zurara in 3273. Two years later she records the Teorge logs in 3275.

What she accomplished after those logs were recorded is anyone's guess. Did she delete the memories again? Or did someone forcibly erase them? I don't think we have any additional record of her until she meets Salome in 3300 at the hospital in Reclamation.

In any case ... the possibility "The Old Woman" being Elyssia Fields appears to be impossible ... but there might still be a connection.

In "And Here the Wheel" we learn that The Dark Wheel has always been led by a member of the Ryder family. Elyssia Fields was Alex Ryder's companion in the now non-canonical Dark Wheel novella. Still ... in the canonical novel And Here the Wheel we are told that Alex Ryder did exist in this version of history and had two sons: Oberon and Neptune Ryder. Both children had names linked to Greek mythology. Elyssia's brood mother (Elyssia was a clone) had an interest in Greek mythology ... and hence Elyssia's rather poetic name.

If Elyssia had been Alex's domestic partner and if we take the Children of Raxxla's origin story at face value then it is very likely that Elyssia and Rebecca knew each other through common connections to The Dark Wheel. Elyssia's influence on Rebecca would explain why Rebecca hid so much of the Exodus Conspiracy in a wrapper of Greek myth.

If there is anyone still alive who knows about the powers behind Exodus then, perhaps, that person is Neptune Ryder. We should keep a close watch on The Dark Wheel... if we assume that The Dark Wheel of Shinrarta Dhezra is the same Dark Wheel from the orginal Elite.

Perhaps the only way to get the answer's were looking for is to push the Dark Wheel... Run missions for them, speculate on what we're doing, hope FDev notices and hide clues in the missions or in how they expand. Perhaps those clues are already there?

I'm thinking Greek mythology again and that bubble is the labyrinth at Minos so multiple dead ends and false starts, a Minotaur running around inside which took out Lucs cobra and a secret in the middle.

If nobody else solves it I'll buy a conda when I've finished my BGS grind, name it the Ariadne and go have a pop.

You can't write a novel around the idea that they jumped ALL THAT WAY for the start of this event just because it fit some cryptic myth related puzzle. The characters in the story have to have a reason for being in that part of space. There must be something there, even if it isn't in game yet!

Can you tell me, pls, what engineer, and engineering, you did to get your jump drive to that level? I'm in a ASP X and only managed to get 50ly min - full fuel tank, carrying an SRV and one beam laser (just in case). I'd love to get it up to around 60ly or beyond.

As eadghe says below, 60ly on an AspX isn't easy! You can use a lot of the same parts from the AspX on a DBX though. The only thing you really have to give up is one of 2 AMFU's and I've never needed the first one myself.

-Enhanced low power shields will half the weight of your shield gen.
-Heavy duty on lightweight armor = all bonus no mass gain.
-lightweight everything else. [sensors, life support, weapons, heat sinks. Another thing to consider here- not all parts have a specific weight reducing recipe but every recipe has a chance to reduce mass by chance. My distributor for instance has a reduced weight secondary.
-Undersized everything possible; 2a Power plant even unmodded is enough, 2d distributor with g3 Engine focused will let you boost still.

If you really want to push your range you should consider substituting the security of a large fuel tank for the assurance of good planing. :D


I think 60ly with an ASPX is difficult. Might be only possible with an very good RNG roll (50+ optimal mass and a couple of percent increase in fuel per jump) and stript down to the hull, i.e. no SRV, weapons or shields... The DBX is easier to mod though.

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Whoever is behind the rift may have another leak.
 
Can you tell me, pls, what engineer, and engineering, you did to get your jump drive to that level? I'm in a ASP X and only managed to get 50ly min - full fuel tank, carrying an SRV and one beam laser (just in case). I'd love to get it up to around 60ly or beyond.

If you haven't already, throw out that 32t fuel tank & swap it with a 16t. Then add an 8t fuel tank to your optional internal. If your getting 50ly min, doing this will get you an extra 2ly. Get rid of the beam laser, trust me you don't need it, or throw a lightweight mod on it. Have either a 6C or 6B fuel scoop, 6A is not worth the money.

^^ With this above, depending on whether you have everything D rated, and around 52-53ly range, you will be travelling 1000ly in 20-25 minutes.

On a more crazy note though.. https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/ana...WgeUOF/NqGYB0DqPwA3IaeUSQAAAA==&bn=Jumpaconda <<< this will blow your mind. Taken from Coriolis (i didn't build it)
 
If you haven't already, throw out that 32t fuel tank & swap it with a 16t. Then add an 8t fuel tank to your optional internal. If your getting 50ly min, doing this will get you an extra 2ly. Get rid of the beam laser, trust me you don't need it, or throw a lightweight mod on it. Have either a 6C or 6B fuel scoop, 6A is not worth the money.

^^ With this above, depending on whether you have everything D rated, and around 52-53ly range, you will be travelling 1000ly in 20-25 minutes.

On a more crazy note though.. https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/ana...WgeUOF/NqGYB0DqPwA3IaeUSQAAAA==&bn=Jumpaconda <<< this will blow your mind. Taken from Coriolis (i didn't build it)

Condas LOVE the lightweight sensor mod :D

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Funny, I got mine fully stripped (so not really useful for exploring) to 59.8 LY...

You presumably got some mass reduction bonuses on your other kit.
 
Cheers for that. I'm extremely surprised to hear that an Anaconda is apparently able to be engineered to a level whereby it can out jump an ASP Explorer. I'm thinking something is wrong with that. But, if that's the case, I guess I'll look into obtaining one on my return.

One thing about the Anaconda, there isn't a single role in the game that it can't be modded to do better than anything else.

well, it can't land on a medium landing pad... But I'm sure they're working on that.
 
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