THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

It's a bit sad to see how this all turns into a tribe building and use vs. them thing.

I always considered the Formidine Rift thread very friendly and inclusive because there wasn't a faction, organization and hierarchy involved.

The simple idea of a faction and decal and mega-ship, born simply out of jealousy, already is poisoning the waters of this nice thread. Who is worthy, who is not.

I thought this thread was about solutions and ideas and exchange and not about base building and separating the good from the unworthy.

I almost started considering me myself as a rifter, but now …

I completely agree. Lets get back to what we can do to find out whos behind dynasty instead of finding out who is a "true" rifter and whos not.
 
Yes. I have already suggested Rifters are people who have contributed usefully in this and the previous subthreads. However anyone who hasn't left the bubble but just perused Galnet is just a librarian. We would need to exclude the salt siths who trolled endlessly after the Premonition Event.

However I would suggest Erimus is a Rifter (if he wants to be thus denoted) although I'm not sure that we could find any specific search criteria on this thread for him; but he did come up with the first map didn't he & that was a really useful contribution.

I'd counter that just because someone who wandered through EAFOTS aimlessly without engaging with the lore is less of a Rifter then someone who matches your definition of "librarian" :)

And here's another problem ... I haven't been out to EAFOTS since I reset my game save. As far as the game's database is concerned I've never been out to the Rift. I guess I'm not a Rifter.
 
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Theres one right next door to the witch head science system. Only problem. Finding an unlocked star in the col 70 sector!

I think FD learnt with the finding of Jaques. It's unlikely to be a straightforward search in Galmap. Perhaps there's a back route in? Someone did suggest a route to get in ages ago, but can't find it now.
 
I'd counter that just because you wandered through EAFOTS aimlessly without engaging with the lore is less of a Rifter then someone who matches your definition of "librarian" :)

And here's another problem ... I haven't been out to EAFOTS since I reset my game save. As far as the game's database is concerned I've never been out to the Rift. I guess I'm not a Rifter.

But you have contributed via this and the previous subthreads, as have all the people I would class as Rifters. Ergo that is the criteria of a true Rifter. "Just" filter out the troll posts and you have your membership list!
 
I've got this mate, see. Does a nice line in Megaship repairs - much cheaper than the official dealer stuff... Ok, pattern parts and a bit of DIY bodging, maybe, but it'll be just like new. Honest. No, really.

Just pop round his gaff in the California Nebula, knock three times and say I sent you. Nuff said?
Works for me ;)
 
Perhaps, if it is a missing ship or even a megaship of some description, it would have been built before the locks on FSD drives were invented or introduced. Old ship, old drive, not possible to permit-lock, because the ability to restrict wasn't possible.

If it's a station, then it could be a station of old vintage, and not subject to such restrictions either... hence the meta-alloys to get it working again, akin to how Jacques needed repair.

That's a good idea, but it think the restrictions on the FSD are put into the system "over the air". And the organization responsible for getting the restrictions into the FSD system is the Pilots Federation (if I remember correctly).

What would a few people want to do with a mega-ship? I guess that such a mega-ship requires a crew of thousands to get moving. Surely 3-4 individuals would probably hardly be able to get the warm water system to operate to get some tea or coffee.

Short version: I think whatever is in Col70 that required some meta-alloys is something much smaller.

Short, tinfoil, crazy idea: there is an engineer in Col70 that requires 200t meta-alloys to unlock. Specialized in EMP shielded FSDs, PPs and other equipment ;)
 
Yes. I have already suggested Rifters are people who have contributed usefully in this and the previous subthreads. However anyone who hasn't left the bubble but just perused Galnet is just a librarian. We would need to exclude the salt siths who trolled endlessly after the Premonition Event.

However I would suggest Erimus is a Rifter (if he wants to be thus denoted) although I'm not sure that we could find any specific search criteria on this thread for him; but he did come up with the first map didn't he & that was a really useful contribution.

Agreed, a lot of CoR would be on the list, and I'll buy them a drink as fellow rifters any day of the week while disliking CoR, although as I've only been to Conflux and the gap maybe I shouldn't be let in the bar.
 
But you have contributed via this and the previous subthreads, as have all the people I would class as Rifters. Ergo that is the criteria of a true Rifter. "Just" filter out the troll posts and you have your membership list!

Okay! Do I get an decal for all three of my accounts? ;)

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I say we STEAL the Zurara. :)
 
That's a good idea, but it think the restrictions on the FSD are put into the system "over the air". And the organization responsible for getting the restrictions into the FSD system is the Pilots Federation (if I remember correctly).

What would a few people want to do with a mega-ship? I guess that such a mega-ship requires a crew of thousands to get moving. Surely 3-4 individuals would probably hardly be able to get the warm water system to operate to get some tea or coffee.

Short version: I think whatever is in Col70 that required some meta-alloys is something much smaller.

Short, tinfoil, crazy idea: there is an engineer in Col70 that requires 200t meta-alloys to unlock. Specialized in EMP shielded FSDs, PPs and other equipment ;)

Sorry.. what I meant to add / imply was that perhaps early-release drives didn't have the capability to be permit-locked because the need for a locking system didn't exist. Then, after x-point in time, the Pilot's Federation realised permits were needed, so all future FSD from that point were designed to be locked - and received over-the-air updates?
 
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Agreed, a lot of CoR would be on the list, and I'll buy them a drink as fellow rifters any day of the week while disliking CoR, although as I've only been to Conflux and the gap maybe I shouldn't be let in the bar.

Your a Rifter. It's not about where you been.

Heck... my wife should be an honorary Rifter for putting up with many a night listening to "HONK! Fuel scooping ... fuel scooping complete ... fuel scoop disengaged ... Frame Shift Drive charging ... 4, 3, 2, 1. Engage" over and over again (and over) :)

EDIT: I'll bet most of you read that last sentence in Verity's voice :)
 
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But this & some of the discussions above would bar anyone who is not into RP, Discord, BGS etc from receiving the Rifters decal even if they have contributed significantly to this thread where the Rifting has been coordinated (in a loose, non-controlling way). So what is the point? If we are to gain a Rifters ship decal then it should be for contributing to the hunt for the truth, not for building a megaship or desecrating a tomb.

I think Zurara should be left alone, as a floating tomb and everlasting memorial to the crew who manned her and their hexedited murderers. If you want to focus your efforts on anything then focus them onto discovering the individuals behind the conspiracy, and bring them to account. I am beginning to suspect you have been infiltrated by the conspirators who are trying to divert your attention from Dynasty.

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Agreed. Use of MAs to repair a station is possible, but with all the hints about MegaDrive & RaanC's involvement more likely that it is feasible to enter Col70 sctor if you have a long distance FSD. So perhaps feasible with a double neutron star boosted Annie or DBX?

One thing that could be done is to continue the search for the Megadrive documents. RaanC still hasn't published those. Perhaps some engineer is going to announce a new line in FSD recipes ("Soon")?

Actually I have difficulty with a tomb and memorial for people who through their greed for a big pay day signed up for a black ops mission. Those were obvious risks with secret missions and the vast resources being spent on this so they decided to take the risk for the money. It's not like they were tricked into getting involved.

That's not the kind of person I think needs special respect.

They deserve the same respect in death as anybody else so I would quite happily ship bodies back to the bubble for that.

But the only important reminder the ship needs to be is as an example of the lengths "they" consider acceptable to meet their goals.
 
Sorry.. what I meant to add / imply was that perhaps early-release drives didn't have the capability to be permit-locked because the need for a locking system didn't exist. Then, after x-point in time, the Pilot's Federation realised permits were needed, so all future FSD from that point were designed to be locked - and received over-the-air updates?

No need to be sorry. It's a good idea. I like it. It's equally valid as my thoughts. Without evidence it's all theories, hypothesis and playing around with thoughts and ideas.

Throwing a lot of ideas into a metaphorical bowl, stir it long enough over a small flame of thoughts and then see what floats and what sticks. I like that method.
 
No need to be sorry. It's a good idea. I like it. It's equally valid as my thoughts. Without evidence it's all theories, hypothesis and playing around with thoughts and ideas.

Throwing a lot of ideas into a metaphorical bowl, stir it long enough over a small flame of thoughts and then see what floats and what sticks. I like that method.

Yeah there do some to be a lot of loose ends around. One of them, when tugged hard enough, should start to unravel. Guess it's simply a case of finding the right thread.
 
Your a Rifter. It's not about where you been.

Heck... my wife should be an honorary Rifter for putting up with many a night listening to "HONK! Fuel scooping ... fuel scooping complete ... fuel scoop disengaged ... Frame Shift Drive charging ... 4, 3, 2, 1. Engage" over and over again (and over) :)

EDIT: I'll bet most of you read that last sentence in Verity's voice :)

Oh I think anybody who wants the decal should have it.

Even if we did start a faction and get a megaship we would only want to use it as a refuel/repair/sell exploration data base at whatever point is top of the list to be investigated at that time. If it went beyond that to BGS and gaining power I'd be off.

It should be usable by anybody hunting or exploring there. And as such the decal is more a statement of intent rather than look at my sides army. So anybody who wants it could have it in my opinion.

Somebody not interested or involved in the rift mystery wants to pop it on their ship, fine by me. Won't mean I will suddenly like them, trust them, respect them or consider them part of some non existent elitist group and any "secrets" they want to find will already be on public display here.
 
However I would suggest Erimus is a Rifter (if he wants to be thus denoted) although I'm not sure that we could find any specific search criteria on this thread for him; but he did come up with the first map didn't he & that was a really useful contribution.

For better or for worse, the truth is that the original founding members of the non-forum secret group that preceded CoR's creation (and which still exists, <evilLaugh/> ) were all quietly recruited from the Rift and Canonn threads, Erimus and Drew being two of the most obvious, and myself as well. Not all of them remained involved in CoR (I left shortly after they became CoR and expanded exponentially in both numbers and activities that I wasn't interested in or had time for, and only dabbled from time to time after that), and some of the names might surprise you, but they would definitely fall into the "Rifter" category.

I would think connecting the decal to participation in a Zurura CG would be the way to go, although I also like the idea of getting it as part of a preorder for Premonition. Those seem to be the two simplest solutions, and the second would highlight our inclusiveness (which having a player faction would destroy IMO).
 
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Yep. Wouldn't cheapen the reasons why I'd display it.

An in-game free decal, or a token-fee-from-the-store-decal?

Either way, even though I know I've not earned one the way many of you "originals" have, I'd probably display it, simply because I feel like I'm involved, even if only a little bit, and despite not being in it from the start.
 
Hi Folks. :)

"End of a chapter" is a good way of looking at it. I hesitate to use the word 'Season' for obvious reasons. ;)

The story arc that was kicked off from Reclamation is concluded, the R-R line and the exposure of the conspiracy. Right now, by necessity, Premonition contains some spoilers that won't be spoilers by the time the book comes out (hopefully that makes sense) - due to the inevitable length of time it takes to actually produce a book.

Right now I am 100% busy on finishing the book itself and I have other projects which have been delayed by the overrun on this one, so I simply don't have the bandwidth for more crafting at this stage.

Also I'm carefully considering the level of my future involvement based on the response of the last week or so. The community that I was writing for back in 2012-2013 has changed quite considerably in the intervening years. Despite my best intentions some of the vitriol received has been quite wearing. It has an impact and that also needs to be taken into account.

Cheers,

Drew.

:(

I'm sorry to hear that, and I hope you know that, if only from us here in the Rift thread, the immense amount of effort you put into the event is greatly appreciated, and I for one am really looking forward to reading Premonition.
 
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