Why are there no MEMERABLE characters? It makes no sense from a designers persective.

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Cephalopod

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Because the fans dont make suggestions? (I make tones , and have even criticised aspects I hate , and still do)
This is not the suggestion forum , this is the discussion one. the section made for player to player discussion , the devs read it but its not made for that.

You cant just make good charecters.
And a good story is in the game , my story. your story.

Adding a scripted snore fest would make it stupid IMO.
That would make every player have the same story , the same missions , the same objective. you will be able to see what a player is doing , what mission they are doing based on what location they are in. (that kills immersion)

To be a great explorer you have to actualy find stuff... instead of playing a scripted mission
To be a war lord you have to have a army , by getting others to follow you... instead of playing a scripted mission

I want great chars , but because the game runs in real time (and I hope that never changes) that would mean FD have to change the chars every day or week.

The thing I love about elite is that , yesterday is over. you cant go back.
The eranin conflict is over. no one can play it again.
The early days of UA hunting is over , its part of history

The player driven naratives like the rift and alien plots are epic and feel real , rather than just some snore fest of ''be the one true hero''

Imagination Land only goes so far to make a game great. If I wanted to Imagine things I would play Dungeons and Dragons or the Star Wars RPG.
 
But you don't need a Final boss to conqure to have Memorable Characters. Every story has archatypes that people love and enjoy. They closest thing we have to a villian is Archan Delaine and it's so badly done it makes you bored with the game in mins. (YES I REALIZE THAT SOME PEOPLE THINK THE GAME IS PERFECT, BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING WE ALREADY KNOW YOUR FANBOY OPIONON)

You must have a need to come off as a jerk.

What about the actual point of my post? You know, the part about this game having a different focus? Or that one about how you shouldn't look for the hero plot, because it's been left out on purpose? Or the part about reducing the view of galaxy down the the systems involved in a story arc would limit the scope of the game? For there to be a general antagonist, there needs to be a generalized story. There just isn't.

Enjoy your angst.
 

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Not gonna happen. How else will we get our entertainment? Ignore lists keep the best stuff from being seen. Just saying.

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I remember you. And I saw you in the game! Pretty cool stuff.

I agree with this guy. The bad man said something I DON'T like. He called me a fanboy. BLOCKS every player in the game. lol.
 
Okay for the not so intellegent in the room. I WAS ACTUALLY GETING AT THIS "WIDE AS AN OCEAN SHALLOW AS A PUDDLE" What I am suggesting will fix this. Holy crap people are dumb.
And thats what FD are working on. making games is not magic.

What you are asking for is not lore friendly.
AI is against the law in elite
Sith lord style of characters would make no sense in this universe
And anthropomorphic talking animals would.... not fit in the rebooted universe , maybe in elite 1 but not ED.

Elite dangerous is a universe of politics , corporations ruling over lives , scumbag pirates , and show-rulers.
Its banal nature makes it unique in many ways.

We need more dynamic gameplay , more content. but scripted missions are silly. unless only 1 player can finish them. (because you can only have 1 savior of the galaxy)
 

Cephalopod

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You must have a need to come off as a jerk.

What about the actual point of my post? You know, the part about this game having a different focus? Or that one about how you shouldn't look for the hero plot, because it's been left out on purpose? Or the part about reducing the view of galaxy down the the systems involved in a story arc would limit the scope of the game? For there to be a general antagonist, there needs to be a generalized story. There just isn't.

Enjoy your angst.

Why am I coming off as a jerk when already know that fanboys will jump on a thread and state the same crap over and over and over and over and over. The game is le perfect. Ze must not change ze game! But I don't feel differing opionons qualify as being a jerk. Must I parrot what other people say to be approved by the clique? The game has some serrious flaws. And constantly as stated before. get this thrown at it. "Wide as an Ocean shallow as a puddle" So let me ask you this why is the idea of Introducing Memorable characters offensive? And for the record. Insult me for not agreeing with you fine. But do you think it changes anything from my perspective. I see a cult/clique I'm new to the game. I have been bored with the game even after doing all the main tasks. Grinding, Smuggling, Bounty Hunting, Trading, Mining. There is just not enough content. What do you suggest no one point at the elphant in the room?

I don't care if everyone circle jerks eachother on the forums the community should welcome new ideas and new players.
 
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Imagination Land only goes so far to make a game great. If I wanted to Imagine things I would play Dungeons and Dragons or the Star Wars RPG.
Then play a linear 5-10hrs long game.
Not the game thats ment to last 10yrs and simulate the day to day life of a space pilot
 
You know those of us with 100's or 1000's of hours in this game aren't hate-playing, right?

We're not forcing ourselves to play something we don't like, for hours and hours, just to prove a point to strangers on a forum. We're playing something we enjoy.
 
i'm pretty sure the implications of this violate some forum code of conduct rules... ;)

Nonsense. How do you think the mods became mods? Scoop touching is a glorious past time.

Why am I coming off as a jerk when already know that fanboys will jump on a thread and state the same crap over and over and over and over and over. The game is le perfect. Ze must not change ze game! But I don't feel differing opionons qualify as being a jerk. Must I parrot what other people say to be approved by the clique?

Very few people actually say the game is perfect as is. The more notable forum commenters, who've been here awhile, who've taken part in almost all of the various mechanics the game offers, are very vocal about how the game needs a proper update to integrate and balance what we currently have before we make the mess even bigger.
 
Why am I coming off as a jerk when already know that fanboys will jump on a thread and state the same crap over and over and over and over and over. The game is le perfect. Ze must not change ze game! But I don't feel differing opionons qualify as being a jerk. Must I parrot what other people say to be approved by the clique?

Your opinion is, of course, your own. I didn't start insulting your differing opinion. I simply made a counter argument. Something you seem to want credit for, but find it impossible to grant to other. You chose to insult me, and dodge the points I made. That's what I think makes you come off as a jerk.

I don;t know why you come off as a jerk. Maybe it's the Caps, or the insults, or.... You go ahead and choose. You will just settle for another method to avoid my points, and pick another well known and overused insult to season your reply.
 
That would be great. BUT I also want Reasons to Explore. 400 Billion stars and NO CHARACTERS LIFE OR ALIEN WORLDS.
Alien life on airless worlds? thats not science fiction , thats space fantasy.

What about the brain-trees?
Alien ruins?
The lost?
The generation ships?
What about the Formidine Rift (partialy solved now)
The UA
The Barnicles
The thargoid ships

Thats better than scripted stuff that will be the same for everyone.

Alien life , is planned. when we get worlds with atmosphere.
NPCs that you can talk to is planned

Many things are planned , they just take time
 

Cephalopod

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Seriously, ease up on the wild exaggerations. Even the fanboys don't claim this game is perfect and must not change.

By no stretch was that an exaggeration. Litterally encountered and read over a 100 posts like this.

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Alien life on airless worlds? thats not science fiction , thats space fantasy.

What about the brain-trees?
Alien ruins?
The lost?
The generation ships?
What about the Formidine Rift (partialy solved now)
The UA
The Barnicles
The thargoid ships

Thats better than scripted stuff that will be the same for everyone.

Alien life , is planned. when we get worlds with atmosphere.
NPCs that you can talk to is planned

Many things are planned , they just take time


There are 10 to the power of 24 habitle planets estimated in our galaxy. If .01 percent had life that would be millions of aliens and civilisations.
 
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The crux of Elite is that there is no bad buy.

One persons heroine is another's terrorist. One persons hero is another's griefer.

Are the Empire the goodies, or the Feds or the independents?

Are the Thargoids the enemies or our friends?

Remember you are just 1 CMDR in 100, 1000, 10,000 why is your storyline important, why is mine?

The direction Elite goes is you are a small cog Ina large machine, how you cope with it is down to you.

But having one set of bad guys that good will win out over will not work in this game. Your idea of good I can bet is actually another's idea of bad and they will do their damnedness to wipe that out.
 

Cephalopod

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Your opinion is, of course, your own. I didn't start insulting your differing opinion. I simply made a counter argument. Something you seem to want credit for, but find it impossible to grant to other. You chose to insult me, and dodge the points I made. That's what I think makes you come off as a jerk.

I don;t know why you come off as a jerk. Maybe it's the Caps, or the insults, or.... You go ahead and choose. You will just settle for another method to avoid my points, and pick another well known and overused insult to season your reply.

You came off like a jerk. So why are you guys being jerks to new players with new suggestions?
 
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