How do you controller people aim properly?

[Gwyvern]

Ive been using my logitech controller

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81UTipiqRHL._SL1500_.jpg

And while it was an improvement over the currently incomplete mouse controls, aiming tends to be a matter of luck, as precise turning seems to be wholly unsupported.

so id like to hear it from the mouths of those that are good with it.
How do you fly so well with a controller?

 

[Vandaahl]

Gimballed laz0rz for teh win!!1

To be honest, I never was able to use a controller like that. I still find mouse and keyboard very comfy.

 

[Obsidian Ant]

Ive been using my logitech controller

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81UTipiqRHL._SL1500_.jpg

And while it was an improvement over the currently incomplete mouse controls, aiming tends to be a matter of luck, as precise turning seems to be wholly unsupported.

so id like to hear it from the mouths of those that are good with it.
How do you fly so well with a controller?

I used to use a XBox 360 pad. Trick is to use fine movements on the sticks...just 1mm or 2 no big wide movements. It's not too hard once you get used to it!

 

[Mack71]

Sorry not really the answer your looking for but i was using an xbox 360 controller and i just could not get the hang of it, normal flight fine but as soon as the shtf i would over control and keep over shooting the target so i dragged my old flight stick back into play and im fine with that i think im possibly getting too long in the tooth for the joypad sticks although i do now use the pad in conjunction with the flight stick for extra controls which is working well but in saying all that there are those that swear by em probably just a case of good old fasion practice

 

[Gwyvern]

Gimballed laz0rz for teh win!!1

To be honest, I never was able to use a controller like that. I still find mouse and keyboard very comfy.

aiming with a mouse is even worse, in absolute mode the movement delay that results from having to drag the mouse to the other side of the live zone makes aiming very hard. Relative mode for some reason did not include pitch/yaw, so precision aming was still out of reach, and custom binding the mouse produced very jerky motions that made even basic maneuvers impossible.

How do you play with the mouse?

 

[Phaedra]

I have the same controller. I use two FPSFreak thumb stick extenders and on the Logitech profiler I have set the sensitivity of the Pitch Axis to 25%. The other Axis are all 50% sensitivity. The deadzone for all axis is set for 5% and the range to 100%. This gives me pretty reasonable precision, although I'm sure that someone with a decent HOTAS will do better. If you haven't got any thumb stick extenders then you will probably need to set the sensitivities lower than the values I've used.

Its also worth noting that to use Logitech profiler the gamepad needs to be set to D Input, which means that ED will treat it as a joystick. This means that you'll need to input your own custom bindings since there are no presets for the F310 in D Input mode.

 

[Steve_T]

Sorry not really the answer your looking for but i was using an xbox 360 controller and i just could not get the hang of it, normal flight fine but as soon as the shtf i would over control and keep over shooting the target so i dragged my old flight stick back into play and im fine with that i think im possibly getting too long in the tooth for the joypad sticks although i do now use the pad in conjunction with the flight stick for extra controls which is working well but in saying all that there are those that swear by em probably just a case of good old fasion practice

Yup. I tried the 360 and just got too eager when in combat, over steering all over the place. However, I'm not a console person so just not used to that type of control. There's plenty of commanders here that use console controllers and they'd beat me hands down in combat. :smilie:

Edit: I use the T Flight Hotas X now.

 

[Vandaahl]

How do you play with the mouse?

Relative mode, with pitch and yaw. [Q] and [E] for roll, [W][A][D] for the usual up, down, left right. [R] and [F] for forward and backward thrust. My head and hands are completely comfortable with this.

 

[Gwyvern]

Relative mode, with pitch and yaw. [Q] and [E] for roll, [W][A][D] for the usual up, down, left right. [R] and [F] for forward and backward thrust. My head and hands are completely comfortable with this.

I could not get the settings to admit that relative pitch yaw exists, if not id be using a setup eerily similar to yours

As for my fellow logitech user, where did you get your profiler install? I got mine from the logitech site but it refuses to work (asks me to put the controler into a certain mode, but with the mode button on or off it still asks me the same thing)

 

[ohanluain]

Ive been using my logitech controller

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81UTipiqRHL._SL1500_.jpg

And while it was an improvement over the currently incomplete mouse controls, aiming tends to be a matter of luck, as precise turning seems to be wholly unsupported.

so id like to hear it from the mouths of those that are good with it.
How do you fly so well with a controller?

Make sure you're mapping to the analog axes

 

[Gwyvern]

Make sure you're mapping to the analog axes

.duh.

i thought i was supposed to map them to the unicorns

 

[ohanluain]

.duh.

i thought i was supposed to map them to the unicorns

When I first mapped out the controls I did them to the digital mappings rather than the analog axes. I had never used a gamepad on the computer before and I thought making each direction to the control would make it less likely to have to go back and click/unclick "invert axis" abs work that all out. I didn't realize there would be a difference

 

[Atinus]

Ive been using my logitech controller

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81UTipiqRHL._SL1500_.jpg

And while it was an improvement over the currently incomplete mouse controls, aiming tends to be a matter of luck, as precise turning seems to be wholly unsupported.

so id like to hear it from the mouths of those that are good with it.
How do you fly so well with a controller?

Ah, the F310. Good controller. I'm enjoying using my F710.

For fixed weapons, I suggest keeping the yaw into roll in controller options enabled. It seemed to help getting the lock on quicker.

For gimballed weapons, I suggest turning yaw into roll off.

And then, I've kept the vertical thrust on the right stick, and then for right and left on the right stick, I've mapped that to yaw.

For button 6, that's increase thrust, button 5 is decrease thrust, right bottom trigger I mapped to speed burst, and left bottom trigger to flight assist off (the one where when I hold it down assist is off and when I let go, it's back on).

Button 1 fire, button 2 find nearest hostile, button 4 target ahead, button 3 target subsystem.

 

[mumrah]

From my experience, the mouse wins every time if playing a first person shooter and would not wanna play shooter games any other way.

When you are driving or flying something with simulation in mind. Those dedicated controllers (steering wheel, flightstick, hotas etc) are the better option always.

I think xbox360 controllers are ok and sometimes quite fun to use, but for having the kind of control over your sim game, they come somewhere in the middle between a dedicated controller and mouse.

 

[Darren Grey]

I use a Playstation controller, which is almost identical to your Logitech.

Left stick = pitch and roll, with button depression to toggle roll to yaw.
Right stick = vertical and lateral thrusters, with button depression to toggle headlook
R1/L1 thrust/decelerate
R2/L2 weapon groups
D-pad for power distribution
Face buttons for shooting, boost, targeting and speed to zero

I'm no good with a rail gun, but otherwise it works nice and dandy for me The sticks do take some getting used to - the single player scenarios obviously help as a training ground.